What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?

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**iproxtaco**

Brother Coa wrote:Wasn't the BF destroyed by Eldar and Imperials?
And are you implementing that Chaos forces on Cadia have strong AA defenses?
While they lay dormant there, reinforsments are arriving at Cadian sector. So yeah, they pretty much lost it ( at least in the year 42. 010 )

I'm implying, which is the correct word, that they control the skies, the Imperium does not. I would also think they would have decent enough AA defenses.
Once again though, your blind fanboyism has blinded you to any other possibility other than Imperial victory. Here's the truth though. This Crusade is still very much on going. The Imperium is far from winning, for the simply do not have the resources to push Abbaddon back currently. Cadia is lost, Chaos has taken it, deal with that fact.

**Asherian Command**

Not really all fanboys are we?

Quoting Lexicanum

State after the Thirteenth Black Crusade
During the worldwide campaign of Abaddon the Despoiler's Thirteenth Black Crusade, the forces of Chaos managed to establish a major foothold on Cadia, though they lost the battle in space. The result of this is that most of Cadia is now under control of Chaos forces, although they have no way currently of being reinforced.

Chaos did alot of damage still but they are still stuck...

**iproxtaco**

I never said YOU were a fanboy, you're making that up, and I never said Chaos was winning. Simply that they are no where close to being defeated, and that the Imperium is already stretched, with little hope of bringing the necessary forces round in time to push Abbaddon back.

**RogalDorn69**

The fortress that Rogal Dorn gave to the emprah, but nice emprah gave it back. Now it Imperial Fists

carnt remeber name of it, only remeber it was as big as a planet and shone like a star in the night sky (Knowing Rogal Dorn, it was all pure gold

)

**Asherian Command**

iproxtaco wrote:I never said YOU were a fanboy, you're making that up, and I never said Chaos was winning. Simply that they are no where close to being defeated, and that the Imperium is already stretched, with little hope of bringing the necessary forces round in time to push Abbaddon back.

Wait your saying I am making up that I am fanboy or the quote?

And not really they still have a few more reinforcements.

Plus Abbaddon being able to defeat the terran defense force is going to be absolutely impossible with his current forces.

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RogalDorn69 wrote:The fortress that Rogal Dorn gave to the emprah, but nice emprah gave it back. Now it Imperial Fists
carnt remeber name of it, only remeber it was as big as a planet and shone like a star in the night sky (Knowing Rogal Dorn, it was all pure gold )

The Phalanx

**Punisher Gatling Cannon**

My vote goes for cadia, the rock, or the phalanx

**Brother Coa**

iproxtaco wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:Wasn't the BF destroyed by Eldar and Imperials?
And are you implementing that Chaos forces on Cadia have strong AA defenses?
While they lay dormant there, reinforsments are arriving at Cadian sector. So yeah, they pretty much lost it ( at least in the year 42. 010 )

I'm implying, which is the correct word, that they control the skies, the Imperium does not. I would also think they would have decent enough AA defenses.
Once again though, your blind fanboyism has blinded you to any other possibility other than Imperial victory. Here's the truth though. This Crusade is still very much on going. The Imperium is far from winning, for the simply do not have the resources to push Abbaddon back currently. Cadia is lost, Chaos has taken it, deal with that fact.

"During the worldwide campaign of Abaddon the Despoiler's Thirteenth Black Crusade, the forces of Chaos managed to establish a major foothold on Cadia, though they lost the battle in space. The result of this is that most of Cadia is now under control of Chaos forces, although they have no way currently of being reinforced."

"The Thirteenth Black Crusade began in 999.M41, and resulted in the largest mobilisation of both Imperial and Chaotic forces seen since the Horus Heresy. In this campaign at least one Blackstone Fortress was destroyed by Necron raiders as they were designed to destroy the C'tan.
The Thirteenth Black Crusade was the background to the worldwide Warhammer 40,000 Eye of Terror campaign, which resulted in a minor victory for the forces of Chaos and gave Abaddon a foothold in the Cadian Gate, though he suffered grievous losses to his fleet.
While the ground is largely controlled by the forces of Chaos, the skies above Cadia are almost entirely ruled by Admiral Quarren and the entire Battle Fleet Groups: Gothic and Solar and elements of several chapters of Space Marines, leaving the results open as the battle rages on. Having both space and air superiority gives a significant advantage to the Imperial forces, allowing the deployment of fresh troops and the bombardment of Abaddon's army."

It's fanboyism? God how people don't read official matterial. Were does it say that Chaos won the 13'th Black Crusade? But to be fair, it doesen't say taht they lost as well ( well for exept Space Battle ). And Imperials are getting reinforcements, dough they are yet to come to the planet.
Before you start writing nonsense look from the 3'rd perspective:
-Abaddon attacked, kicked ass and gain ground.
-While his forces gain control of 1/3'rd of the planet the combine Eldar and Imperial force attack Abbadon's fleet and r*** him.
-Now, when Imperial control the sky above Cadia they orbital bombard the Chaos positions.
-Chaos forces on the ground suffer losses and cannot conquer the rest 1/3'rd of the planet.
-Imperial forces are getting reinforcements ( those reinforcements will come in M42 so the battle is still pretty much draw ), while there is no confirmation that Abaddon will send help thus leaving his troops on Cadia to be slaughtered by incoming Imperial Troops.

Unless you have some source to implement different, the fact is - Chaos will lose this battle. So your sentence "Cadia is lost, Chaos has taken it, deal with that fact" is so wrong it hurts my heart...

Anyway...there is one more reason why Cadia won't fall, and you don't have argument for this:

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iproxtaco wrote:I never said YOU were a fanboy, you're making that up, and I never said Chaos was winning. Simply that they are no where close to being defeated, and that the Imperium is already stretched, with little hope of bringing the necessary forces round in time to push Abbaddon back.

And what part of "Having both space and air superiority gives a significant advantage to the Imperial forces, allowing the deployment of fresh troops and the bombardment of Abaddon's army."

You didn't understand?
It's not fanboyism - it's a fact. Deal wit hit

**huntho21**

Botten3 wrote:I personally think the Fang because it's in a mountain, the biggest mountain in Fenris to be exact

Its actually a mountain range so its ALL of the mountains on Fenris.

**Asherian Command**

Brother Coa wrote:
iproxtaco wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:Wasn't the BF destroyed by Eldar and Imperials?
And are you implementing that Chaos forces on Cadia have strong AA defenses?
While they lay dormant there, reinforsments are arriving at Cadian sector. So yeah, they pretty much lost it ( at least in the year 42. 010 )

I'm implying, which is the correct word, that they control the skies, the Imperium does not. I would also think they would have decent enough AA defenses.
Once again though, your blind fanboyism has blinded you to any other possibility other than Imperial victory. Here's the truth though. This Crusade is still very much on going. The Imperium is far from winning, for the simply do not have the resources to push Abbaddon back currently. Cadia is lost, Chaos has taken it, deal with that fact.

"During the worldwide campaign of Abaddon the Despoiler's Thirteenth Black Crusade, the forces of Chaos managed to establish a major foothold on Cadia, though they lost the battle in space. The result of this is that most of Cadia is now under control of Chaos forces, although they have no way currently of being reinforced."

"The Thirteenth Black Crusade began in 999.M41, and resulted in the largest mobilisation of both Imperial and Chaotic forces seen since the Horus Heresy. In this campaign at least one Blackstone Fortress was destroyed by Necron raiders as they were designed to destroy the C'tan.
The Thirteenth Black Crusade was the background to the worldwide Warhammer 40,000 Eye of Terror campaign, which resulted in a minor victory for the forces of Chaos and gave Abaddon a foothold in the Cadian Gate, though he suffered grievous losses to his fleet.
While the ground is largely controlled by the forces of Chaos, the skies above Cadia are almost entirely ruled by Admiral Quarren and the entire Battle Fleet Groups: Gothic and Solar and elements of several chapters of Space Marines, leaving the results open as the battle rages on. Having both space and air superiority gives a significant advantage to the Imperial forces, allowing the deployment of fresh troops and the bombardment of Abaddon's army."

It's fanboyism? God how people don't read official matterial. Were does it say that Chaos won the 13'th Black Crusade? But to be fair, it doesen't say taht they lost as well ( well for exept Space Battle ). And Imperials are getting reinforcements, dough they are yet to come to the planet.
Before you start writing nonsense look from the 3'rd perspective:
-Abaddon attacked, kicked ass and gain ground.
-While his forces gain control of 1/3'rd of the planet the combine Eldar and Imperial force attack Abbadon's fleet and r*** him.
-Now, when Imperial control the sky above Cadia they orbital bombard the Chaos positions.
-Chaos forces on the ground suffer losses and cannot conquer the rest 1/3'rd of the planet.
-Imperial forces are getting reinforcements ( those reinforcements will come in M42 so the battle is still pretty much draw ), while there is no confirmation that Abaddon will send help thus leaving his troops on Cadia to be slaughtered by incoming Imperial Troops.

Unless you have some source to implement different, the fact is - Chaos will lose this battle. So your sentence "Cadia is lost, Chaos has taken it, deal with that fact" is so wrong it hurts my heart...

Anyway...there is one more reason why Cadia won't fall, and you don't have argument for this:

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iproxtaco wrote:I never said YOU were a fanboy, you're making that up, and I never said Chaos was winning. Simply that they are no where close to being defeated, and that the Imperium is already stretched, with little hope of bringing the necessary forces round in time to push Abbaddon back.

And what part of "Having both space and air superiority gives a significant advantage to the Imperial forces, allowing the deployment of fresh troops and the bombardment of Abaddon's army."

You didn't understand?
It's not fanboyism - it's a fact. Deal wit hit

Wow I hear the word owned comes to mind XD

**iproxtaco**

Brother Coa wrote:
iproxtaco wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:Wasn't the BF destroyed by Eldar and Imperials?
And are you implementing that Chaos forces on Cadia have strong AA defenses?
While they lay dormant there, reinforsments are arriving at Cadian sector. So yeah, they pretty much lost it ( at least in the year 42. 010 )

I'm implying, which is the correct word, that they control the skies, the Imperium does not. I would also think they would have decent enough AA defenses.
Once again though, your blind fanboyism has blinded you to any other possibility other than Imperial victory. Here's the truth though. This Crusade is still very much on going. The Imperium is far from winning, for the simply do not have the resources to push Abbaddon back currently. Cadia is lost, Chaos has taken it, deal with that fact.

"During the worldwide campaign of Abaddon the Despoiler's Thirteenth Black Crusade, the forces of Chaos managed to establish a major foothold on Cadia, though they lost the battle in space. The result of this is that most of Cadia is now under control of Chaos forces, although they have no way currently of being reinforced."

"The Thirteenth Black Crusade began in 999.M41, and resulted in the largest mobilisation of both Imperial and Chaotic forces seen since the Horus Heresy. In this campaign at least one Blackstone Fortress was destroyed by Necron raiders as they were designed to destroy the C'tan.
The Thirteenth Black Crusade was the background to the worldwide Warhammer 40,000 Eye of Terror campaign, which resulted in a minor victory for the forces of Chaos and gave Abaddon a foothold in the Cadian Gate, though he suffered grievous losses to his fleet.
While the ground is largely controlled by the forces of Chaos, the skies above Cadia are almost entirely ruled by Admiral Quarren and the entire Battle Fleet Groups: Gothic and Solar and elements of several chapters of Space Marines, leaving the results open as the battle rages on. Having both space and air superiority gives a significant advantage to the Imperial forces, allowing the deployment of fresh troops and the bombardment of Abaddon's army."

It's fanboyism? God how people don't read official matterial. Were does it say that Chaos won the 13'th Black Crusade? But to be fair, it doesen't say taht they lost as well ( well for exept Space Battle ). And Imperials are getting reinforcements, dough they are yet to come to the planet.
Before you start writing nonsense look from the 3'rd perspective:
-Abaddon attacked, kicked ass and gain ground.
-While his forces gain control of 1/3'rd of the planet the combine Eldar and Imperial force attack Abbadon's fleet and r*** him.
-Now, when Imperial control the sky above Cadia they orbital bombard the Chaos positions.
-Chaos forces on the ground suffer losses and cannot conquer the rest 1/3'rd of the planet.
-Imperial forces are getting reinforcements ( those reinforcements will come in M42 so the battle is still pretty much draw ), while there is no confirmation that Abaddon will send help thus leaving his troops on Cadia to be slaughtered by incoming Imperial Troops.

Unless you have some source to implement different, the fact is - Chaos will lose this battle. So your sentence "Cadia is lost, Chaos has taken it, deal with that fact" is so wrong it hurts my heart...

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iproxtaco wrote:I never said YOU were a fanboy, you're making that up, and I never said Chaos was winning. Simply that they are no where close to being defeated, and that the Imperium is already stretched, with little hope of bringing the necessary forces round in time to push Abbaddon back.

And what part of "Having both space and air superiority gives a significant advantage to the Imperial forces, allowing the deployment of fresh troops and the bombardment of Abaddon's army."

You didn't understand?
It's not fanboyism - it's a fact. Deal wit hit.

You went through all that to make an irrelevant point. I have never said that Chaos has won, nor have I said that they are winning, you THINK I said that for some odd reason, probably because you can't deal with any sort of opposing information. The Impeirum as not won, they aren't even close to winning, but neither are Chaos, and both have their current disadvantages and advantages over their opponents.
Those images kind of prove that most of this argument is motivated by you being a fanboy, as once again Coa, you ignore a lot of the stuff you quote. That lovely wishlist has nearly no basis of fact in your predictions. The Imperium doesn't have the reinforcements they need, their fleet is borken, the Eldar have retreated and there's still the Blackstone Fortress and possibly the Planet Killer to deal with, as well as Chaos controlling the vast majority of Cadia's surface, and the damage they've done to the other planets that compose the Gate.

**purplefood**

Brother Coa wrote:God how people don't read official matterial.

This statement is so ironic it hurts...

**iproxtaco**

Asherian Command wrote:
iproxtaco wrote:I never said YOU were a fanboy, you're making that up, and I never said Chaos was winning. Simply that they are no where close to being defeated, and that the Imperium is already stretched, with little hope of bringing the necessary forces round in time to push Abbaddon back.

Wait your saying I am making up that I am fanboy or the quote?

And not really they still have a few more reinforcements.

Plus Abbaddon being able to defeat the terran defense force is going to be absolutely impossible with his current forces.

I'm saying you wrongly accused me of calling you a fanboy. I did not.
They have some reinforcements, but it won't be enough. The Crusade will continue into the next millenia, and this time it may not be defeated.
I never said a thing about Terra, but I agree, currently, Abbaddon doesn't have a hope in hell of defeating Earth's defenses.

RogalDorn69 wrote:The fortress that Rogal Dorn gave to the emprah, but nice emprah gave it back. Now it Imperial Fists
carnt remeber name of it, only remeber it was as big as a planet and shone like a star in the night sky (Knowing Rogal Dorn, it was all pure gold )

The Phalanx

The Phalanx is huge, not the size of a planet, they size of a moon.

**Abadabadoobaddon**

This is the greatest and best fortress in the Imperium... tribute.

**Commisar Von Humps**

Imperial Palace, the fang is just tall and has 1500(not sure if thats right)+ marines and protected by the forces of the great (cheese) wolf!

**Brother Coa**

iproxtaco wrote:
You went through all that to make an irrelevant point. I have never said that Chaos has won, nor have I said that they are winning, you THINK I said that for some odd reason, probably because you can't deal with any sort of opposing information. The Impeirum as not won, they aren't even close to winning, but neither are Chaos, and both have their current disadvantages and advantages over their opponents.
Those images kind of prove that most of this argument is motivated by you being a fanboy, as once again Coa, you ignore a lot of the stuff you quote. Like what, that Creed kick Abaadon's but several times? That lovely wishlist has nearly no basis of fact in your predictions. The Imperium doesn't have the reinforcements they need, their fleet is borken, the Eldar have retreated and there's still the Blackstone Fortress and possibly the Planet Killer to deal with, as well as Chaos controlling the vast majority of Cadia's surface, and the damage they've done to the other planets that compose the Gate.

I don't know what to say. I am backed by official fluff. I didn't read anywhere that "Imperium doesn't have the reinforcements they need" but I read that reinforcements are on their way."
It is obvious you don't know what you are writing and blaming others not being informed enough when they oppose your claims. And this statement you are making that Imperium has no force to respond when codex clearly states it has proves my point.

I am am a Human fanatiic, but Tau conquered Taros, Tyranids eat Gryphone IV, Chaos raided Cadian sector and it will be rebuilding for years, maybe centuries, Eldar cleansed several planets from Humans, Orks devastated Armageddon, Daek Eldar r**** Bakka, Mankind is losing war for it's survival... They kick our ass, we kick theirs and it goes around in circle...

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purplefood wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:God how people don't read official matterial.
This statement is so ironic it hurts...

I can remember even you few times going against fluff but let's just move on...
Everyone makes mistakes, that doesn't mean when I say "Cadia is not conquered" that I am gaoing against official fluff.

**Gorskar.da.Lost**

Terra.
Seriously, it's not only defended by the Custodes, it's entire solar system is bristling with fortifications, fleets and other surprises for any would-be invaders - including the Moon, which is now a giant floating battlestation. Hell yeah.

**iproxtaco**

Brother Coa wrote:
iproxtaco wrote:
You went through all that to make an irrelevant point. I have never said that Chaos has won, nor have I said that they are winning, you THINK I said that for some odd reason, probably because you can't deal with any sort of opposing information. The Impeirum as not won, they aren't even close to winning, but neither are Chaos, and both have their current disadvantages and advantages over their opponents.
Those images kind of prove that most of this argument is motivated by you being a fanboy, as once again Coa, you ignore a lot of the stuff you quote. That lovely wishlist has nearly no basis of fact in your predictions. [b]The Imperium doesn't have the reinforcements they need, their fleet is borken, the Eldar have retreated and there's still the Blackstone Fortress and possibly the Planet Killer to deal with, as well as Chaos controlling the vast majority of Cadia's surface, and the damage they've done to the other planets that compose the Gate.

I don't know what to say. I am backed by official fluff. I didn't read anywhere that "Imperium doesn't have the reinforcements they need" but I read that reinforcements are on their way."
It is obvious you don't know what you are writing and blaming others not being informed enough when they oppose your claims. And this statement you are making that Imperium has no force to respond when codex clearly states it has proves my point.

Making things up. It says reinforcements are on their way. It does not say they will be enough, it doe not say how much, it does not reveal how many other threats are running rampant due to the stupid number of forces being diverted, it doesn't say that the Imperium will win back Cadia because of it.

I am am a Human fanatiic, but Tau conquered Taros, Tyranids eat Gryphone IV, Chaos raided Cadian sector and it will be rebuilding for years, maybe centuries, Eldar cleansed several planets from Humans, Orks devastated Armageddon, Daek Eldar r**** Bakka, Mankind is losing war for it's survival... They kick our ass, we kick theirs and it goes around in circle...

It's not a circle. Humanity is losing it's battle for survival. They're getting their buts kicked more than they kick back.

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purplefood wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:God how people don't read official matterial.
This statement is so ironic it hurts...

I can remember even you few times going against fluff but let's just move on...
Everyone makes mistakes, that doesn't mean when I say "Cadia is not conquered" that I am gaoing against official fluff.

Purlpleflood does not have a reputation for doing it all the time. Saying that is massively hypocritical.
Why am I responding? You aren't going to read what I post, or you won't understand it at the very least. Who wants to bet money that you'll post some weird fanboy video or 1d4chan picture?

**Brother Coa**

iproxtaco wrote:
Making things up. It says reinforcements are on their way. It does not say they will be enough, it doe not say how much, it does not reveal how many other threats are running rampant due to the stupid number of forces being diverted, it doesn't say that the Imperium will win back Cadia because of it.

It also doesn't say that Chaos will win. But it is implemented that Imperials will get reinforcements while Chaos will not. Because GW writters are not neard to say us how many Guardsman will Imperium send, or how many Marines. One thing is sure, Chaos will get no help while Imperium will get fresh troops. But for now it is status quo since we will not go in M42 for a very long time...

It's not a circle. Humanity is losing it's battle for survival. They're getting their buts kicked more than they kick back.

For now at least, tides can change you know... ( again we will see it in M42 )

[Purlpleflood does not have a reputation for doing it all the time. Saying that is massively hypocritical.
Why am I responding? You aren't going to read what I post, or you won't understand it at the very least. Who wants to bet money that you'll post some weird fanboy video or 1d4chan picture?

No, it's you guys who want to know how many screws does Leman Russ have and who can't take a joke or question seriously. ( and for 1d4chan, maybe it is funny but it's facts are true. Purplefood said that himself ) And I am not using 1d4chan as official source, I only put pictures for fun

and ask when I read some paragraph "when this happened in official fluff", but as always you don't read my posts to the end - why should I read yours?
And you guys are all saying that Wikipedia in not official source which is idiotic to me since everything that exist in some encyclopedia is written down on Wikipedia.

**Rynsester**

Somebody should find the actual Eye of Terror campaign end result report instead of this Lexicanum copypasta.

On topic: Terra is the most heavily fortified planet in the Imperium, there is nothing comparable imo

**iproxtaco**

Brother Coa wrote:
iproxtaco wrote:
Making things up. It says reinforcements are on their way. It does not say they will be enough, it doe not say how much, it does not reveal how many other threats are running rampant due to the stupid number of forces being diverted, it doesn't say that the Imperium will win back Cadia because of it.

It also doesn't say that Chaos will win. But it is implemented that Imperials will get reinforcements while Chaos will not. Because GW writters are not neard to say us how many Guardsman will Imperium send, or how many Marines. One thing is sure, Chaos will get no help while Imperium will get fresh troops. But for now it is status quo since we will not go in M42 for a very long time...

Fully aware of that. Neither did I. It does not say that Chaos wont get reinforcements. It says they will have a difficult time getting to the surface. Once again though, you seem to ignore the fact that the reinforcements sent are likely not to be enough as the Imperium is already stretched as it is.

It's not a circle. Humanity is losing it's battle for survival. They're getting their buts kicked more than they kick back.

For now at least, tides can change you know... ( again we will see it in M42 )

Whishful thinking. It's vastly more likely that things will continue going downhill for the Imperium. A change in millennium does little to improve their chances.

[Purlpleflood does not have a reputation for doing it all the time. Saying that is massively hypocritical.
Why am I responding? You aren't going to read what I post, or you won't understand it at the very least. Who wants to bet money that you'll post some weird fanboy video or 1d4chan picture?

No, it's you guys who want to know how many screws does Leman Russ have and who can't take a joke or question seriously.

First part doesn't make sense, second part is firstly, irrelevant, and secondly, wrong.

( and for 1d4chan, maybe it is funny but it's facts are true. Purplefood said that himself ) And I am not using 1d4chan as official source, I only put pictures for fun

Not all of them are true. The overwhelming majority are boosted to hyperbolic levels of stupidity. And yes, you do use 1d4chan as a source, when you shouldn't. Just to make it clear, you haven't used it in this thread, but you have in others. Just to stop another potential argument.

and ask when I read some paragraph "when this happened in official fluff", but as always you don't read my posts to the end - why should I read yours?

Not sure what you're talking about here. I read your posts in full, you simply disagree with what I have to say, so you're jumping to conclusions in defense.

And you guys are all saying that Wikipedia in not official source which is idiotic to me since everything that exist in some encyclopedia is written down on Wikipedia.

It isn't. It's superseded by quotes from the actual texts. Think of it as a long chain of people before you in a game of chinese whispers. What is written in the book won't often be the same thing that appears on your screen.

**RogalDorn69**

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:This is the greatest and best fortress in the Imperium... tribute.

Tenacious-D lol

**DaemonJellybaby**

On the results front:

40k wikia wrote:The campaign ran for eight weeks, in which more than forty thousand players registered, and submitted over a quarter of a million games results to the campaign website. The conclusion of the campaign resulted in a minor victory for Chaos. The line was held in many places but on the strategic level the Disorder players were considered to have consistently out-fought and out-maneuvered their opponents, and held over half of Cadia itself. The Chaos forces made slow but somewhat steady progress on many fronts, yet made no decisive victory, especially when a "backstage" plan to gain a foothold in the Eldar Webway system turned into a complete and total failure. In addition, Abaddon suffered severe losses to his fleet in the crusade.

Of course, the Terra system is the greatest fortress built, probably with the Cadian system in second place

**Asherian Command**

Minor victory implies that neither actually gained anything, but still chaos did its damage. But space battle is done.
The Planet Killer is Destroyed.

**purplefood**

Brother Coa wrote:
iproxtaco wrote:
Making things up. It says reinforcements are on their way. It does not say they will be enough, it doe not say how much, it does not reveal how many other threats are running rampant due to the stupid number of forces being diverted, it doesn't say that the Imperium will win back Cadia because of it.

It also doesn't say that Chaos will win. But it is implemented that Imperials will get reinforcements while Chaos will not. Because GW writters are not neard to say us how many Guardsman will Imperium send, or how many Marines. One thing is sure, Chaos will get no help while Imperium will get fresh troops. But for now it is status quo since we will not go in M42 for a very long time...

It's not a circle. Humanity is losing it's battle for survival. They're getting their buts kicked more than they kick back.

For now at least, tides can change you know... ( again we will see it in M42 )

[Purlpleflood does not have a reputation for doing it all the time. Saying that is massively hypocritical.
Why am I responding? You aren't going to read what I post, or you won't understand it at the very least. Who wants to bet money that you'll post some weird fanboy video or 1d4chan picture?

No, it's you guys who want to know how many screws does Leman Russ have and who can't take a joke or question seriously. ( and for 1d4chan, maybe it is funny but it's facts are true. Purplefood said that himself ) And I am not using 1d4chan as official source, I only put pictures for fun and ask when I read some paragraph "when this happened in official fluff", but as always you don't read my posts to the end - why should I read yours?
And you guys are all saying that Wikipedia in not official source which is idiotic to me since everything that exist in some encyclopedia is written down on Wikipedia.

I never said what was on 4chan is true.
It's like propaganda...
It may have an element of truth but they twist it to make it funny.

**iproxtaco**

Asherian Command wrote:Minor victory implies that neither actually gained anything, but still chaos did its damage. But space battle is done.
The Planet Killer is Destroyed.

It think you may be slightly twisting the meaning behind minor victory to seem like it wasn't actually a victory. Well, you know, it was a victory, which resulted in minor gains for Chaos. The Space Battle is not done. The Blackstone Fortress remains in Chaos hands, the Planet Killer may still be around, or something similar to it.

**Grey Templar**

the entire Sol system is the greatest fortress.

the Fang is 2nd.

3rd probably has alot of things gunning for it.

**iproxtaco**

The Fang is not second. Cadia is second, or any of it's cities if you don't count it as a single fortress.

**Grey Templar**

the Fang hasn't even come close to being taken.

Cadia is currently 1/2 occupied.

the Cadian Gate is also a string of Fortress Worlds. the Fang is a single planet.

**iproxtaco**

I would like to refer you to Battle of the Fang.

Two thirds of Cadia belongs to Chaos.

I'm well aware of this, notice how I referred to Cadia as the planet Cadia itself.

**Grey Templar**

Ok, I was thinking the Battle of the Fang was when the crazy high lord led a rebellion, not the Thousand Son attack.