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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 17:55:12
Subject: Re:What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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Does this have to be an imperial world? Because I would imagine there are better ones.
Ala, any necron tomb world. I do not recall any piece of fluff of any tomb world being taken/destroyed SINCE the necrons woke up and the eldar lost all the talismans of Vaul.
Commoragh, repelled a whole Orky thingie and a Space Marine chapter, and the only reason any part of it was damaged? They were working against themselves for intrigue and "just as planned".
A chaos planet (i forget what the actual word is) but where the warp and the materium overlap in such a way as reality is warped to the whims of the god to whom it belongs. No amount of force could take something where the laws of physics do not apply.
I think the palace is overrated. Sure it repelled abaddon, but that was with the assistance of 3 loyalist legions (which don;t tend to hang around terra these days). Also Horus only had the resources of HALF the imperium at MOST. And he was knockin on the door. This was also at the height of the imperium, when the emperor himself fought in defence of the palace? Nowerdays, an individual with similar might to Horus (abaddon isn;t even close!) could get to there again, and no emprah to stop them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 17:58:11
Subject: Re:What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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Implacable Black Templar Initiate
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Id say most likely terra as a whole or the Phalanx, if you would count that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 21:21:47
Subject: Re:What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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If we're saying off Terra then the best is the fang, it's not the strongest, Obviously as a GK player i'd say Titan is the strongest but the fang is one of the strongest, it held off the thousand sons and it must look the best.
The rocks not bad but is that a fortress or a ship?
Obviously, the Imperial Palace is the most defencible though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 21:41:31
Subject: Re:What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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1) I for one think the Black Templar fleet should count in the running. They are out there crusading around la-de-da but do you ever hear of anyone attacking them? No.
2) The fang. If you are going to bar the Imperial Palace then the doghouse is pretty slick. I'm reading 'battle of the fang' atm, and as a CSM player with a 1K Sons bent, I can humbly say SW have it going on.
3) Mars. Whereas fortress worlds aren't necessarily fortresses, you can bet forge worlds are. They are super-secretive about their tech. GKs don't even know how half of their stuff works, and they're the only ones with it. Though there is a bit of fluff from the current CSM codex where they hint at Mars possibly being a necron tombworld or something. Look it up, it's on the page with Huron. Go ahead... I'll wait...
That's my 2 cents.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 21:43:44
Subject: Re:What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Sharkvictim wrote:1) I for one think the Black Templar fleet should count in the running. They are out there crusading around la-de-da but do you ever hear of anyone attacking them? No.
2) The fang. If you are going to bar the Imperial Palace then the doghouse is pretty slick. I'm reading 'battle of the fang' atm, and as a CSM player with a 1K Sons bent, I can humbly say SW have it going on.
3) Mars. Whereas fortress worlds aren't necessarily fortresses, you can bet forge worlds are. They are super-secretive about their tech. GKs don't even know how half of their stuff works, and they're the only ones with it. Though there is a bit of fluff from the current CSM codex where they hint at Mars possibly being a necron tombworld or something. Look it up, it's on the page with Huron. Go ahead... I'll wait...
That's my 2 cents.
The BT fleet is scattered across the Imperium.
If you knew their locations and headings it would be relatively simple to wipe out significant portions of them provided you had competant naval assets at your disposal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 22:16:31
Subject: Re:What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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yeah good point. i assumed they probably regroup every now and then to plot new and wondrous crusades in the name of the false emperor, but still they wouldn't be just sitting in one place.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/28 23:54:14
Subject: What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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No force has ever taken the Fang because no one wants to land a giant army on an unstable death world- there's no friggin' benefit.
Macragge took the full force of a hive fleet to the face.
Baal is likewise a deathworld, not sure why it's on any of these lists except that it has a chapter based on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 02:28:10
Subject: What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Da Boss wrote:No force has ever taken the Fang because no one wants to land a giant army on an unstable death world- there's no friggin' benefit.
Macragge took the full force of a hive fleet to the face.
Baal is likewise a deathworld, not sure why it's on any of these lists except that it has a chapter based on it.
That's actually a good point...
There are very few SM chapter homeworlds worth invading and occupying. Once you kill the chapter off they are fairly worthless.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 09:15:42
Subject: What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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Macragge was mauled by Behemoth,which was one of thwe small fleets,and it took Ultramar and Tempestus fleet to win.Even then,Calgar badly wounded,Dominus Astra had to kill itself,Prandium was lost,the first company destroyed entirely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 10:19:31
Subject: What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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The title of this Thread virtually answers itself. Terra is clearly the biggest and best Imperial fortress. You can't disqualify it, that's like saying,"what's the most influential city in the Roman republic, but you can't say Rome" or what's the Capitol of England but you can't say London.
No Space Marine Fortress Monastary even competes in this category. Period. As for the OPs void shields make the Fang the best. The Ark Tyrannus had void shields...that ended well.
Space Marine FMs are valuable only for the marines inside, thier geneseed stores, and as a symbol.
The entire Sol system is one big mess of stay the feth out. Terra, Mars, Titan. I'd imagine the Inquisition, Mechanicus, and Navy all have Home Fleets. It's also the cradle of humanity, no other world holds the same value as Earth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 11:31:41
Subject: What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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Da Boss wrote:No force has ever taken the Fang because no one wants to land a giant army on an unstable death world- there's no friggin' benefit.
Macragge took the full force of a hive fleet to the face.
Baal is likewise a deathworld, not sure why it's on any of these lists except that it has a chapter based on it.
I'd like to point you to Battle of the Fang. Lets just say that it didn't end well for the Space Wolves, and it was certainly beneficial to land a giant army on it. Automatically Appended Next Post: The Bloodbearer wrote:If we're saying off Terra then the best is the fang, it's not the strongest, Obviously as a GK player i'd say Titan is the strongest but the fang is one of the strongest, it held off the thousand sons and it must look the best.
The rocks not bad but is that a fortress or a ship?
Obviously, the Imperial Palace is the most defencible though.
It didn't hold off the Thousand Sons.
The Rock is what's left of Caliban. It's riddled with ancient chambers and tunnels, but it isn't a completely secure fortress.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/29 16:45:08
Subject: What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Let's just see, in excruciating detail, what defends Terra. First(that I know of), is Titan.Home of the GK, the mega maruines with SRs,Force Weapons, and more ruthlessness than you can shake a Hellblade at. Then you have Jupiter and the Space Ports.Enough said. Then there is Mars.The Big Daddy of FWs.Probably more weapons and Titans there than in the Whole of Ultramar. Somewherte in there you have the Inquisition,who say you fight,and you MUST fight.There isn't even the question of "what if I don't?"You do. By this time,the IoM will have heard the news,and you will have and 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000....Imperial Guardsmen and about 1000 chapters of 1000 SMs arriving to ram Laser Batteries and Vortex missiles up your rear end. Then you have Terra's Orbital defences.No question it is the best defence system the Imperium can muster. Then you have Terra itself.The citizens will fight with their last breath to defend Earth. Then there is the Custodes.10,000ish Super Space Marine type guys.Finally,you have to get into the Throne room,which was originally designed as a vault. Then there is the 2 Warhound Titans who live inside.Fighting one Titan ibn a city,where there is buildings to hide behind,is difficult enough,but 2? In an open area?Not happening.Warhounds are the only Titan that can fit,so Chaos need Feral Titans.Eldar and Ork Titans are smaller,Nid Bio-Titans are as well.Even if you could get in,they would just be bottlenecked into the doorway.Trying to push past a fellow titan while get a fusilade of Turbo-Laser and Vulcan fire. If you have anyone left by that stage,then all there is left is the EmperorKill him,watch the warp consume,and enter daemonhood,becuase the Gods would SERIOUSLY like you after that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/30 15:54:58
Subject: Re:What the biggist and best fortress in the imperium ?
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Lord Rogukiel wrote:LumenPraebeo wrote:You're all wrong, the Imperial Palace is not a fortress, it's actually a giant of an Emperor Class Titan, and it's body is half of Terra, with the Emperors Golden Throne Chamber as the cockpit. If Terra falls under siege, it will transform from a fortress into The Emperors-Emperor Titan, it has guns the size of mountains and can shoot missiles and plasma the size of meteors.
The earth will light ablaze and all life on Terra will die. The Emperor Titan will shoot laser out of its eyes powerful enough to cause exterminatus, and drop nuclear bombs out of its arse, it will eat other titans to fuel its engines and burp melta-fire. Then its feet will turn into rockets and it flies around the universe destroying all in it's path.
Wtf?
I beg to differ against whoever says that all worlds are Imperial. Maybe some crazed Imperium fanatic would think so, but anyone with a mind capable of processing information logically would see that its completely false. The eye of terror worlds, the Tau empire, the Exodite worlds but to name a few which are most definately not Imperial worlds.
OT: As much as I like the Rock due my playing DA, I think other fortressess do have much more plot armour. As for the best, probably the Imperial Palace.
Of course all worlds belong to the imperium. (click) Dont they.....
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