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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/22 09:19:57
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. TS Imperial Fist and WIP TS Rhino
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Stinky Spore
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Honestly one of the best conversion projects ive ever seen!
All the models are fantastic, i just think the guy with the lightning claws kinda lets the sqaud down just a touch, im no pro by any means, i have trouble with the most basic modelling stuff, but really awesome, i hope you give updates when you start painting
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/22 09:21:22
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. TS Imperial Fist and WIP TS Rhino
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Loving your take on TS marines. Can't wait to see the rhino in all its full completed glory , keep up the good work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/23 10:07:28
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. TS Imperial Fist and WIP TS Rhino
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Violent Enforcer
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M0rdain wrote:It's dripping in awesome sauce. Very impressed with the rhino, it's quite a tough project, but you have pulled it off great so far.
Dripping with awesome sauce! I like that! Thanks very much, the rhino is really difficult. I've been looking at plasticard projects like Blackadder's thunderhawk and I have no idea how he gets everything with such perfect right angles and straight lines. Even with a cutting mat it's tricky. There's a few places that are slightly wonky, but I'm hoping that they won't be too noticeable in the finished product.
leviathan18 wrote:Honestly one of the best conversion projects ive ever seen!
All the models are fantastic, i just think the guy with the lightning claws kinda lets the sqaud down just a touch, im no pro by any means, i have trouble with the most basic modelling stuff, but really awesome, i hope you give updates when you start painting 
Wow cheers! I'm always up for trying to improve these, is it something with the Raven Guard you can put your finger on or just an overall vibe? As for the painting, I did manage to get the Salamander Techmarine undercoated yesterday, but there won't be updates on him until next week I'm afraid.
killi wrote:Loving your take on TS marines. Can't wait to see the rhino in all its full completed glory , keep up the good work!
Thanks very much, it's a long slog but it's fun!
I really love getting these comments guys, it helps motivate me to keep going. Not only that, but I do use any constructive criticism and think about people's suggestions to improve them. I've already thought of a snag with the techmarine- He's got rivets all over. Should I paint them in metallic, and risk him looking too busy, or leave them as black like the rest of the armour and highlight them up a bit?
Cheers!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/23 10:18:34
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. TS Imperial Fist and WIP TS Rhino
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Stalwart Space Marine
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Best Deathwatch project ive ever seen!  I love the ravenguard marine and the imperial fist is looking awesome aswell, keep up the good work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/23 11:29:20
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. TS Imperial Fist and WIP TS Rhino
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Awesome, I love Truscale blogs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/23 11:40:56
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. TS Imperial Fist and WIP TS Rhino
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Wow, just wow. this is some of the best work i have ever seen! what is the space wolfs chainsword from?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/24 15:57:17
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. TS Imperial Fist and WIP TS Rhino
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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For the techmarine I would paint the rivets metallic because it will match with his arm and will look cool! Also the rhino is amazing can't wait to see that finished.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 13:48:37
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. TS Imperial Fist and WIP TS Rhino
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Violent Enforcer
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Firstly, thanks for all the replies and encouragement!
The Space Wolf's chainsword is from the SW upgrade sprue, with 2 chainswords carefully stuck together to make it longer.
And Farty, thanks for the advice, I think will go with it, but alas, no painting has happened yet! However, I have upgraded the rhino. Work is slow, but thanks to Forgeworld and Scibor, it's starting to shape up a bit. Changed the side door to make it look a bit closer to the original, but I've only done one side so far. Enjoy!
A truescale marine and Bob the Badly Built and Basecoated Blood Angel (relic from my youth) for scale purposes.
A little shot of the FW stuff, as well as the icon that's eventually going to go on the other side door with some more trimming.
The other option for the Storm Bolter. (I realise the storm bolter isn't there, but imagine mechanical arms attached to the sides, and a pintle) I'm not sure about this servitor as I think he just looks too much like a regular space marine. Might just keep it like ^^this^^ like they had in the olden days on the mk1 Rhino.
So there we go! Thanks to all for sticking with me on this, I know it's slow going. It will all get done eventually! Any advice on the Servitor/automated gun dispute is most welcome.
Nearly forgot, don't worry about all the gaps and stuff, I bought some milliput the other day and they will all be filled!
Cheers!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 16:51:20
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. WIP TS Rhino slow progress
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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The rhino is looking great, it's one of the better truescale vehicles I've seen. Keep up the great work; you're keeping me inspired!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 17:23:33
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. WIP TS Rhino slow progress
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I think that the storm bolter would look even better with a targeter on the side, or maybe a servo skull. Just my $0.02.
That Rhino looks great so far, though!
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Leigen_Zero wrote:nectarprime wrote:
Um, isn't styrene + gasoline = napalm?
More or less yes...Great, we've gone from cheap resin substitutes to weapons banned by the geneva convention...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 21:58:25
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. WIP TS Rhino slow progress
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Violent Enforcer
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Farty Wiffmas wrote:The rhino is looking great, it's one of the better truescale vehicles I've seen. Keep up the great work; you're keeping me inspired! 
Cheers mate, glad you're enjoying it! I really appreciate the feedback and ideas you've been putting in too.
Odd One Out wrote:I think that the storm bolter would look even better with a targeter on the side, or maybe a servo skull. Just my $0.02.
That Rhino looks great so far, though! 
Ah, good idea, I'll have a dig around the bitz box and sort that out pronto. Cheers for the feedback! I was also thinking that it can't really pivot up and down at the moment and wondering how to get around that without looking silly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 00:16:35
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. WIP TS Rhino slow progress
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Regular Dakkanaut
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How about putting it in a frame? Have the targeter on the top, and then do some kind of supports on the side. Kind of like the carriage a cannon rests on, sans wheels.
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Leigen_Zero wrote:nectarprime wrote:
Um, isn't styrene + gasoline = napalm?
More or less yes...Great, we've gone from cheap resin substitutes to weapons banned by the geneva convention...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 01:23:00
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. WIP TS Rhino slow progress
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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Man you have been busy haven't you?
LOVE the White Scar. Just oozes so much character its ridiculous. Oh also the Dread is looking really good. I like your take on the sarcophagus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 11:42:50
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. WIP TS Rhino slow progress
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Violent Enforcer
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Odd One Out wrote:How about putting it in a frame? Have the targeter on the top, and then do some kind of supports on the side. Kind of like the carriage a cannon rests on, sans wheels.
So... Something like this then?
I also wasn't happy with the sides of the rhino, they looked too bitty, so they've got a major overhaul. Baneblade exhaust pipes are in the post
Mr.Malevolent wrote:Man you have been busy haven't you?
LOVE the White Scar. Just oozes so much character its ridiculous. Oh also the Dread is looking really good. I like your take on the sarcophagus.
Haha yes I have been busy! I like the Scar too, but I'm wondering if I should give him a gun or not? Glad you like the dread. He's looking a bit of a mess now as I tried to change the head around and haven't got to a point where he looks reasonable. Probably should have just left him as he was :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 23:21:29
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. WIP TS Rhino
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Regular Dakkanaut
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YES! EXACTLY! Looks like it can actually pivot now!
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Leigen_Zero wrote:nectarprime wrote:
Um, isn't styrene + gasoline = napalm?
More or less yes...Great, we've gone from cheap resin substitutes to weapons banned by the geneva convention...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/09 15:45:05
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. WIP TS Rhino
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Violent Enforcer
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Hello, it's been a while since I updated this log, but i have not been idle! My Rhino has been coming along nicely (pics on the way) and I've made a couple of new models. An Inquisitor, using a scout (which would be a suitable technique for truescaling scouts) and a WIP techpriest
Here we go:
Unfortunately my battery died before I could take pics of the rhino, the back of the tech priest or a comparison shot between a normal scout and the Inquisitor.
I'll do a step-by-step on the True-scale scout method when I make my Rogue Trader
Enjoy, and Feedback is welcome!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/09 15:57:32
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. WIP TS Rhino
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The New Miss Macross!
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master of asgard wrote:Hello, it's been a while since I updated this log, but i have not been idle! My Rhino has been coming along nicely (pics on the way) and I've made a couple of new models. An Inquisitor, using a scout (which would be a suitable technique for truescaling scouts) and a WIP techpriest Here we go: Unfortunately my battery died before I could take pics of the rhino, the back of the tech priest or a comparison shot between a normal scout and the Inquisitor. I'll do a step-by-step on the True-scale scout method when I make my Rogue Trader Enjoy, and Feedback is welcome! Definitely looks cool with the added height and I await your step by step tutorial. The only thing that seems to inexplicably draw my decidedly heterosexual eyes is the scout-inquisitor's "package" as it seems a bit prominent with the changes you've made. Perhaps we could have the inquisitor think about baseball or his grandmother instead of getting excited about all those xenos he'll be purging... (or just file down that nub a bit!) On a related note, I've actually finished assembling my squad of Wolfguard Deathwatch veterans for my RPG group. They're all Space Wolves as I recently traded for a large army of them and had a bunch of extra bits which works out for me personally in the RPG too (Space Wolves seemed to be mechanically the most dependable and survivable chapter for players). I don't do any green stuff work outside of filling gaps and my poses are pretty much straight out of the bits box (no reposing like your cool running pose). If you don't mind me posting a pic or two in your thread, you can see the damage to my bits box (as well as left thumb in an unavoidable cut-towards-yourself-only-due-to-bits detail accident) that you've wrought!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/09 17:23:29
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. WIP TS Rhino
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Violent Enforcer
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warboss wrote:
Definitely looks cool with the added height and I await your step by step tutorial. The only thing that seems to inexplicably draw my decidedly heterosexual eyes is the scout-inquisitor's "package" as it seems a bit prominent with the changes you've made. Perhaps we could have the inquisitor think about baseball or his grandmother instead of getting excited about all those xenos he'll be purging... (or just file down that nub a bit!)
On a related note, I've actually finished assembling my squad of Wolfguard Deathwatch veterans for my RPG group. They're all Space Wolves as I recently traded for a large army of them and had a bunch of extra bits which works out for me personally in the RPG too (Space Wolves seemed to be mechanically the most dependable and survivable chapter for players). I don't do any green stuff work outside of filling gaps and my poses are pretty much straight out of the bits box (no reposing like your cool running pose). If you don't mind me posting a pic or two in your thread, you can see the damage to my bits box (as well as left thumb in an unavoidable cut-towards-yourself-only-due-to-bits detail accident) that you've wrought! 
Wow I didn't notice that at all! I guess it's pretty prominent in the picture. It has been filed and made to look a little bit less... superhuman. As for the Space Wolves- cool, post away, I'm glad you've been inspired!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/09 17:57:44
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. Truescale scout/ Ordo Xenos Inquisitor and Tech Priest
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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That scout looks epic, (just like everything else you make!) however he does look extremely excited!
"In the grim darkness of the far future, there are only codpieces!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/09 18:39:59
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. Truescale scout/ Ordo Xenos Inquisitor and Tech Priest
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Violent Enforcer
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Farty Wiffmas wrote:That scout looks epic, (just like everything else you make!) however he does look extremely excited!
"In the grim darkness of the far future, there are only codpieces!" 
Cheers mate! Those codpieces get everywhere, I tell you
Some more updates on the Tech priest (archmagos?) Both of his arms are done now and I'm just looking for extra gubbinz to flesh him out, but I might end up keeping him looking quite plain. I wanted a servo arm for him but couldn't get it to fit on. Guess I'll just have to make another one!
Also a couple of pics of the Rhino sides. The doors and exhausts are just tacked on at the moment, I'm debating whether to add more detail underneath before I glue them on, like a mounting for the exhausts. Leaning towards not doing it though.
Enjoy! C&C welcome
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/09 19:06:33
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. Truescale scout/ Ordo Xenos Inquisitor and Tech Priest
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
Finland... the country next to Sweden? No! That's Norway! Finland is to the east! No! That's Russia!
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Next thing to do is somw Truescale Terminators and a Truescale Landraider/Drop Pod.
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Sweet Jesus, Nurgle and Slaanesh in the same box!?
No, just Nurgle and Slaanesh, Jesus will be sold seperately in a blister.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/09 19:57:21
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. Truescale scout/ Ordo Xenos Inquisitor and Tech Priest
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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sluggaslugga wrote:Next thing to do is somw Truescale Terminators and a Truescale Landraider/Drop Pod.
That has my vote!
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The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
Rawson's Reboot
Viktor von Domm: nope... can“t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/09 21:30:50
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. Truescale scout/ Ordo Xenos Inquisitor and Tech Priest
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Violent Enforcer
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Rawson wrote:sluggaslugga wrote:Next thing to do is somw Truescale Terminators and a Truescale Landraider/Drop Pod.
That has my vote! 
Seriously guys you are a bad influence!
Terminators I might be able to do though...
See what I mean!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/09 21:42:47
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. Truescale scout/ Ordo Xenos Inquisitor and Tech Priest
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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EXALTED!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/09 22:08:39
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. Truescale scout/ Ordo Xenos Inquisitor and Tech Priest
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Violent Enforcer
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ironhandstraken wrote:EXALTED!
Thank you kindly, Sir. From your signature, I can see why you like this
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/09 22:25:39
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. WIP TS Rhino
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The New Miss Macross!
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master of asgard wrote:
Wow I didn't notice that at all! I guess it's pretty prominent in the picture. It has been filed and made to look a little bit less... superhuman. As for the Space Wolves- cool, post away, I'm glad you've been inspired!
Cool, thanks. The wolves are drying from their primer bath as I type.
edit: and they're done...
master of asgard wrote:
Also a couple of pics of the Rhino sides. The doors and exhausts are just tacked on at the moment, I'm debating whether to add more detail underneath before I glue them on, like a mounting for the exhausts. Leaning towards not doing it though.
Enjoy! C&C welcome 
If someone has to flip your converted rhino upside down to notice the detail, I'd skip it and maintain your sanity. The only thing I may suggest is maybe breaking up the flat surfaces of the plasticard with some "grooves" indicating joined armor plates instead of just one solid plate with added detail. I've read blogs where people just carve in the lines with a steady hand and a slightly dull hobby knife (to get a thicker groove). I've never tried it myself though.
master of asgard wrote:Rawson wrote:sluggaslugga wrote:Next thing to do is somw Truescale Terminators and a Truescale Landraider/Drop Pod.
That has my vote! 
Seriously guys you are a bad influence!
Terminators I might be able to do though...
See what I mean! 
The drop pod is relatively easy to convert to "truescale" if you use the original FW model as a basis for the design. Originally, it was a 5 man pod with one guy in the area now occupied by two. I just turned an extra pod that I was using as a dreadnought one (so nothing on the interior) into that type of design by just using the plastic harnesses attached to the center pylon/orb-station (see the pic above). A five man drop pod fits a Deathwatch killteam's normal size perfectly too. While I'm sure a much better design can be done if assembling the drop pod from scratch, I only had the left over bits from a large trade and wanted the conversion to be modular (in case I still need to drop a dreadnought onto the table for regular 40k).
As for the terminators and Landraider, the guy whose pics I posted of the Space Wolf truescale army back on page one has terminators and a baneblade-converted-to-landraider, which might be good to take a look at before starting. The terminators really need to get bulked up though compared to the power armor guys that use termie parts. The only other suggestion I may have is a WAAAAAY old 3rd edition pic I have of one guy's conversion of a more dreadnought looking terminator. Back in 3rd edition, the standard marine models were the same but the terminators were about a third smaller by volume (and didn't use the 40mm base either) so the guy made a model that better captured the tactical dreadnought mini-me look. Its definitely not for everyone but I guess it depends how much you want to stick to the current terminator aesthetic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/10 04:08:03
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. Truescale scout/ Ordo Xenos Inquisitor and Tech Priest
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Top notch true scaling. Awesome project and almost makes me wish I had tried it for my marines they look so much better than the standard models. The Raven Guard is a personal favourite the pose is very dynamic and the claws look badass. Keep it coming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/12 14:12:49
Subject: Re:Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. WIP TS Rhino
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Violent Enforcer
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warboss wrote:
Cool, thanks. The wolves are drying from their primer bath as I type.
If someone has to flip your converted rhino upside down to notice the detail, I'd skip it and maintain your sanity. The only thing I may suggest is maybe breaking up the flat surfaces of the plasticard with some "grooves" indicating joined armor plates instead of just one solid plate with added detail. I've read blogs where people just carve in the lines with a steady hand and a slightly dull hobby knife (to get a thicker groove). I've never tried it myself though.
Nice Wolves! I haven't tried a heavy weapon yet, so good to see the Plasma Cannon for a bit of inspiration. I'm thinking to do an Iron Hands marine with a Heavy Bolter. Gonna experiment with adding some bionics to him
With regards to the Rhino, that's the kind of thing I meant, like extra panels beneath the engine exhausts. You've convinced me- I'm going to have to add some panels in so it's not all one slab of armour. I think I'm going to pass on the Land Raider and the Drop pod, I'm getting more into the Inquisitor and Ad Mech side of things at the moment. (partly because they're less expensive than splashing out on Baneblades!) I might make one TS Terminator just as a special project, but not sure how yet. Both of those examples you gave looked really good! I like the Dread CCW as a power fist, and the other ones look a bit closer to normal Terms. I'm not too worried about making exact but bigger replicas of the original models, Rule of Cool you know!
Icarium wrote:Top notch true scaling. Awesome project and almost makes me wish I had tried it for my marines they look so much better than the standard models. The Raven Guard is a personal favourite the pose is very dynamic and the claws look badass. Keep it coming.
Thanks very much mate! They are quite the project. I'm quite fond of the Raven Guard too, seeing as running dynamism isn't what you associate with Terminator bits usually  At the moment the final goal is to have a squad of 10 Deathwatch, as well as the 3 special ops marines, the Rhino, an Inquisitor with a squad of storm troopers, and an Ad Mech detachment of 2 tech priests and a praetorian (maybe an arco-flaggelant too). I reckon this will be a nice, well rounded Ordo Xenos force with some Ad Mech advisors!
On that note, here's the first finished tech priest, and comparison shots, as well as a WIP shot of the next tech priest.
Enjoy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/12 15:03:30
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. New WIP Tech Priest
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I realy realy like those tech priests!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/12 15:09:42
Subject: Truescale Deathwatch Squad Project Log. New WIP Tech Priest
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Violent Enforcer
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IPS wrote:I realy realy like those tech priests!
Thanks! Wait till you see what I've got in mind for their bodyguard
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