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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 11:01:03
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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blazinpsycho&typhooni wrote:Soladrin wrote:Vulkan, Corax, Kurze and Perturabo.
Vulkan, cause Salamanders are badass, and the dude dual wields thunder hammers.
Corax, he killed iron warriors by throwing small rocks at them, what more do I need to say?
Kurza, Space Batman and all that.
Perturabo, grumpy siege master, I bet his daemon world has a giant GET OFF MY LAWN sign.
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Where does it say Corax killed people with small rocks? Would really like to read this!
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Seems to me the primarchs with the fewest votes are the one that not many have heard about, and the preacher.
Other than that it's a pretty close race.
Personally, I only have ones I don't like, probably the Lion and perturabo or fulgrim... I keep getting those two mixed up
You can't read it, cause it's from an Audio drama  Raven's Flight. Half of the Primarchs are more mystery then anything else atm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 11:58:15
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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Favorite would have to be Magnus, always, his Legion's story is the best and their fall the most tragic
Runners up would have to be: Guilliman, for being so damn capable, despite coming across as a prick. Sanguinius, for being the most noble and heroic of them all.
Alpharius probably comes next, sitting so low because we just don't know that much about what his Legion is up to or their real motivation.
The Night Haunter is interesting in his own way. His split personality and prophetic visions make him more complex than the average Primarch.
Angron and Perturabo get the sympathy card. Both were royally screwed over.
Not a big fan of Lorgar or Fulgrim, both being easily-manipulated, weak-willed pussies.
Strongly dislike Russ and his Wolves for being ignorant savages/bad caricatures of Vikings (who themselves are caricatures).
Absolutely loathe the Lion, betrayer of his own Legion and his closest friends. He deserved everything he got and more, and Luther should not feel sorry at all for what he did. Seriously, feth Lion'el.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 14:19:28
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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Omegus wrote: Absolutely loathe the Lion, betrayer of his own Legion and his closest friends. He deserved everything he got and more, and Luther should not feel sorry at all for what he did. Seriously, feth Lion'el.
You have no idea how many times this statement has been said amongst my friends. One guy likes him and everyone else is like, "feth the Lion, [insert personal favorite here] is the way to go."
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 16:29:45
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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Omegus wrote:Absolutely loathe the Lion, betrayer of his own Legion and his closest friends. He deserved everything he got and more, and Luther should not feel sorry at all for what he did. Seriously, feth Lion'el.
IMO that's what makes the Lion interesting. The story doesn't try to gloss the fact that he's, for lack of better phrase to use, a treacherous sociopath. Though yeah, damning half his Legion and his best friend? Dude's rightly a dick.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 18:53:42
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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He's no doubt interesting, but hes a huge dill weed
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 20:33:25
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
Vancouver, BC
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Soladrin wrote:blazinpsycho&typhooni wrote:Soladrin wrote:Vulkan, Corax, Kurze and Perturabo.
Vulkan, cause Salamanders are badass, and the dude dual wields thunder hammers.
Corax, he killed iron warriors by throwing small rocks at them, what more do I need to say?
Kurza, Space Batman and all that.
Perturabo, grumpy siege master, I bet his daemon world has a giant GET OFF MY LAWN sign.
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Where does it say Corax killed people with small rocks? Would really like to read this!
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Seems to me the primarchs with the fewest votes are the one that not many have heard about, and the preacher.
Other than that it's a pretty close race.
Personally, I only have ones I don't like, probably the Lion and perturabo or fulgrim... I keep getting those two mixed up
You can't read it, cause it's from an Audio drama  Raven's Flight. Half of the Primarchs are more mystery then anything else atm.
Curses!!! Oh well, bumps Corax up a little higher on my list
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 21:12:53
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
The Top of the World, Lighting up the Night
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TheAngrySquig wrote:Did he actually full blown throw a tank, or was it more like cow tipping?
He basically pushed a Demolisher over and punched it open, but it was described later that he was batting and smacking tanks around as if they were children's toys.
Being the physically strongest primarch, along with Ferrus, I would say it's perfectly reasonable that he could hurl tanks around.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 21:31:02
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I've never heard that. Where is Vulkan and Ferrus being the strongest Primarchs stated?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 21:38:14
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
The Top of the World, Lighting up the Night
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iproxtaco wrote:I've never heard that. Where is Vulkan and Ferrus being the strongest Primarchs stated?
In the short story, "Forgotten Sons" in Age of Darkness.
"Vulkan was enraged, batting tanks aside like children's toys. He was not the most gifted swordsman, nor was he a master strategist or a psyker of any note, but his strength and fortitude...in that, the Eighteenth Primarch was unrivalled.
Had Ferrus Manus lived there might be cause for debate, but with the Iron Hands primarch's head lying seperate from his body in the shrinking snow, that point was now moot."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 21:43:06
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I dunno, I'd have thought Russ, the Lion and definitely Angron would be contendors for the most physcially strong Primarchs. Then there's Magnus, who was the biggest of them all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 21:50:11
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
The Top of the World, Lighting up the Night
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iproxtaco wrote:I dunno, I'd have thought Russ, the Lion and definitely Angron would be contendors for the most physcially strong Primarchs. Then there's Magnus, who was the biggest of them all.
Well, Ferrus Manus was described at several times in Fulgrim as capable of demolishing mountains with his blows, his fight with the Emperor when they first met wrecked mountain ranges apparently, and he took a blow to the head from Fulgrim's hammer like a boss.
While I don't know about as much Vulkan, he did apparently survive a Nova cannon.
I don't really recall the other primarchs doing that kind of stuff, except for when in A Thousand Sons it was stated a mountain was wrecked by Magnus training with his brothers or something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 21:52:33
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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iproxtaco wrote:I dunno, I'd have thought Russ, the Lion and definitely Angron would be contendors for the most physcially strong Primarchs. Then there's Magnus, who was the biggest of them all.
Russ was strong, but Vulkan and Ferrus were still stronger. Angron and Lion were both better fighters, but in base strength, Vulkan and Ferrus were better. Magnus was big, but not notedly strong.
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 21:53:29
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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Vulkan and Ferrus are supposed to be the most physically strong just in terms of brutal, unadulterated force. Angron, Russ, and the Lion are more skilled fighters (Probably) and also insanely strong but those two are supposed to be the strongest in terms of raw muscle. Now, Angron in full rage mode...Probably got enough raw force to really rival them but Vulkan and Ferrus don't need to tap into their inner reservoirs of molten hulk-like rage lakes to be super strong, they just are. Ferrus spent his free time basically finding stuff to bench press (And he's got metal hands!) before the Emp got to Medusa and Vulkan...He's just Vulkan. It's hammer time! I'm sure Magnus could have been strong enough to be as good or better, being a freak giant and all but he didn't spend his free time hammering beastly amounts of insane metal on an anvil or benching mountains. Instead, he was reading.......
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 22:00:44
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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I:Thank you Mr.Vulkan for coming to your performance review.
V:No problem
I:Is it fair to say your in charge around here?
V:Absolutely, I'm the Primarch.
I:Well take us through a day in the life of "The Primarch"
V:Well the first thing is DUAL WIELD THUNDER HAMMERS!
I:LIKE A BOSS
V:FLIP A TANK!
I:LIKE A BOSS
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 22:02:01
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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FinalAnswer wrote:
"Vulkan was enraged, batting tanks aside like children's toys. He was not the most gifted swordsman, nor was he a master strategist or a psyker of any note, but his strength and fortitude...in that, the Eighteenth Primarch was unrivalled."
I remember reading that too, and it just made me facepalm all the more over the Emperor's decision. I mean, sure, he's great and strong and can wreck stuff. But if someone is not a "master strategist", they should probably not be leading thousands of killing machines in battle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 22:04:22
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Armored Iron Breaker
Lookin' fur daemons ta' fight!
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I chose Guilliman, Dorn and Russ
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Teh Emprah Protects
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 22:43:07
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
The Top of the World, Lighting up the Night
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Omegus wrote:FinalAnswer wrote:
"Vulkan was enraged, batting tanks aside like children's toys. He was not the most gifted swordsman, nor was he a master strategist or a psyker of any note, but his strength and fortitude...in that, the Eighteenth Primarch was unrivalled."
I remember reading that too, and it just made me facepalm all the more over the Emperor's decision. I mean, sure, he's great and strong and can wreck stuff. But if someone is not a "master strategist", they should probably not be leading thousands of killing machines in battle.
I took it that it meant that Vulkan was not a master strategist like, say, Roboute or Lion, or Alpharius. Being a Primarch, I would assume that Vulkan would still be a competent leader and tactician.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/23 23:06:32
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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His legions track record speaks for his tactical win
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/24 00:30:29
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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iproxtaco wrote:I dunno, I'd have thought Russ, the Lion and definitely Angron would be contendors for the most physcially strong Primarchs. Then there's Magnus, who was the biggest of them all.
The Lion is actually explicitly noted to be physically weaker but quicker than Leman Russ IIRC, but I'd have to get back to you on the source for that. Magnus in turn was actually noted as possessing strength rivaling Russ, in Index Astartes, exclusive of his psychic power. And remember, Ferrus Manus in particular was possibly the largest Primarch short of Magnus himself.
Angron gets enough hype for us to say he is one of the strongest in martial combat, but nothing points to him being especially physically strong, though I guess it would be logical to assume he was stronger than average.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/24 03:37:06
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Psychic Novitiate selected by a Gatherer
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Sanguinius. I always like how his personality is portrayed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/24 14:39:04
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Void__Dragon wrote:iproxtaco wrote:I dunno, I'd have thought Russ, the Lion and definitely Angron would be contendors for the most physcially strong Primarchs. Then there's Magnus, who was the biggest of them all.
The Lion is actually explicitly noted to be physically weaker but quicker than Leman Russ IIRC, but I'd have to get back to you on the source for that. Magnus in turn was actually noted as possessing strength rivaling Russ, in Index Astartes, exclusive of his psychic power. And remember, Ferrus Manus in particular was possibly the largest Primarch short of Magnus himself.
Angron gets enough hype for us to say he is one of the strongest in martial combat, but nothing points to him being especially physically strong, though I guess it would be logical to assume he was stronger than average.
He had to have been pretty strong to kill marines in power armour with his bare hands, even if they weren't all that eager to kill him. And he broke Kharn up pretty badly without much effort.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/24 20:58:49
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Ok...so Vulkan can throw tanks around...and he wears Green armor.
Holy  , he's the incredible hulk 40k style.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/24 20:59:50
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Does the Hulk like fire?
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Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can play the best chess in the world, but at the end of the day the pigeon will still knock all the pieces off the board and then gak all over it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/24 23:08:19
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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And Angron is Red Hulk
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/24 23:59:56
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
The Top of the World, Lighting up the Night
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Durza wrote:He had to have been pretty strong to kill marines in power armour with his bare hands, even if they weren't all that eager to kill him. And he broke Kharn up pretty badly without much effort.
Not necessarily. Dorn messed up Garro pretty good without even intent to kill, and Curze pretty much broke a Dark Angel with a swat. Killing marines in their power armor with their bare hands seems pretty standard to most Primarchs, at least to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/25 01:46:55
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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Durza wrote:He had to have been pretty strong to kill marines in power armour with his bare hands, even if they weren't all that eager to kill him. And he broke Kharn up pretty badly without much effort.
I was speaking relative to other Primarchs.
Ferrus Manus could punch through Terminator armour as though it were paper, and Fulgrim even outright states that, after Manus punched Fulgrim in the face,"Manus through a punch that could shatter Tactical Dreadnought Armour, but could only bruise the skin of a Primarch."
Though remember, Kharn and friends weren't actually wearing power armour, at least IIRC.
Though Angron could have killed him at any time, that much is clear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 19:16:27
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation
The Crescent Moon, Shire of Worcester, Britannia
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Sanguinius, wisest of the primarchs (though they were all wise in their own way) i also like Magnus, and respected Horus before he turned traitor, my least favourite was Lorgar because of his.. decisions when looking for a new deity to follow (plus i don't like that he punched Malcador the Sigillite)
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Sanctum Blades 2nd Company
http://www.theorderoftheatrium.webs.com
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/29 22:59:17
Subject: Re:Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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So where does one find this data on the Lion being the betrayer and not Luther?
The Lion the Wolf the Wizard and the Wardrobe? (pretty boy Fulgrim had outfits for all occasions.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/30 00:28:22
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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Also I think Fulgrim isn't getting to much love, anyone care to explain
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/30 00:33:00
Subject: Who is your favorite primarch in PRE-HERESY?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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TheAngrySquig wrote:Also I think Fulgrim isn't getting to much love, anyone care to explain
He's a massive douche?
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