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alarmingrick wrote:
I'd say knowing about something that happened 8 YEARS ago, and not telling anyone other than your boss would be pretty damning in itself.

It is isn't it?

I find it comically amusing that no matter how much of a douche you are, people love you if your good at stuff.

It doesn't matter if your a singer, artist, director, sportsman.. If your the top of your game you can get caught plugging an 8 year old and people will still roar your name with passion.

I'm a proper bastard as well and people love me, merely because im handsome and have a penis like a baby's arm.

Ah.. to be human. Such fickle creatures!

AustonT wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:
I'd say knowing about something that happened 8 YEARS ago, and not telling anyone other than your boss would be pretty damning in itself.

It is isn't it?

I never said i thought he was innocent either.....
Just that i don't see him being held up as some Saint like JoPa.

alarmingrick wrote:B, i don't think i've agreed with anything you've ever posted on Dakka. today is no different. i'm sure you're going to lose lots of sleep over that.

No, actually I'm not.

See, I accept that people will disagree with me. I don't call their disagreement "indefensible." I don't take it as a personal insult that some people think differently than I do, or have different personal, professional, religious, or moral perspectives.

So I'm not going to lose any sleep because some anonymous internet Joe Schmoe disagrees with me.

mattyrm wrote: It doesn't matter if your a singer, artist, director, sportsman.. If your the top of your game you can get caught plugging an 8 year old and people will still roar your name with passion.

I'm pretty sure that no one was roaring Sandusky's name with passion.

biccat wrote:

mattyrm wrote: It doesn't matter if your a singer, artist, director, sportsman.. If your the top of your game you can get caught plugging an 8 year old and people will still roar your name with passion.

I'm pretty sure that no one was roaring Sandusky's name with passion.

Pretty poor choice of words, imho.

Seeing that children were raped, i doubt there was much passion.

...I feel like you don't understand what was said

Frazzled wrote:

I hate to say it but Ahtman's 100% right on this. Is it just me or is when you see someone with a kid ina shower, you like call the cops after you've beaten the offender to death? You don't go off and report it and have it forgotten. This is gak crazy.

This! A thousand times this. And now Penn state is rioting? You're an embarassment to our entire civilization penn state.

the rioters are probably the people that couldn't bum a ride to participate in the Occupy Allen Town and felt left out.

The only thing about this story worth protesting and gathering pitchforks is that it took this long for justice to be served.

This story goes deeper then it looks at first.

The district attorney that investigated the incidents in 1998 (and was on the record as wantign to bring numerous high profle Pennstate types to justice) has gone missing and his laptop was found in a river with the hard drive missing.

It is also rumored that the charity foundation for young boys that the predator ran might have been used to cover sex trade. His golf tournament fund raisers may have been used as a cover to hook up pedaphiles with kids (high paying boosters may have been paying for more then the chance to play in a celebrity golf event...).

And Pennstate made millions off of this guys fund raising...

Emperor, I think we'd neeed Gideon Ravenor to untangle this mess of a case.

CT GAMER wrote:This story goes deeper then it looks at first.

The district attorney that investigated the incidents in 1998 (and was on the record as wantign to bring numerous high profle Pennstate types to justice) has gone missing and his laptop was found in a river with the hard drive missing.

It is also rumored that the charity foundation for young boys that the predator ran might have been used to cover sex trade. His golf tournament fund raisers may have been used as a cover to hook up pedaphiles with kids (high paying boosters may have been paying for more then the chance to play in a celebrity golf event...).

And Pennstate made millions off of this guys fund raising...

Do you have a link?

CT GAMER wrote:This story goes deeper then it looks at first.

The district attorney that investigated the incidents in 1998 (and was on the record as wantign to bring numerous high profle Pennstate types to justice) has gone missing and his laptop was found in a river with the hard drive missing.

It is also rumored that the charity foundation for young boys that the predator ran might have been used to cover sex trade. His golf tournament fund raisers may have been used as a cover to hook up pedaphiles with kids (high paying boosters may have been paying for more then the chance to play in a celebrity golf event...).

And Pennstate made millions off of this guys fund raising...

Yeah, there are also rumors that Second Mile was a slush fund for PSU football. This might answer the question why PSU covered for Sandusky and enabled his behavior...because it was a mutually assured destruction scenario. At least if you put football legacies and image ahead of basic human decency.

The DA story has been out there for a while. I tend to think he ran afoul of some drug dealers, etc. Still, it does appear things are going to get worse for PSU and everyone involved. Lots of bad rumors floating around. Including that families were paid off to remain silent.

AustonT wrote:...I feel like you don't understand what was said

Indeed.

I was referring to the people on the video outside his house going "we love you Joe!" and such.

Not..er.. well.. anything sexual.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:This story goes deeper then it looks at first.

The district attorney that investigated the incidents in 1998 (and was on the record as wantign to bring numerous high profle Pennstate types to justice) has gone missing and his laptop was found in a river with the hard drive missing.

It is also rumored that the charity foundation for young boys that the predator ran might have been used to cover sex trade. His golf tournament fund raisers may have been used as a cover to hook up pedaphiles with kids (high paying boosters may have been paying for more then the chance to play in a celebrity golf event...).

And Pennstate made millions off of this guys fund raising...

Do you have a link?

This is stuff I have heard dscussed on talk/sports radio for the past few days. Thus no links.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:This story goes deeper then it looks at first.

The district attorney that investigated the incidents in 1998 (and was on the record as wantign to bring numerous high profle Pennstate types to justice) has gone missing and his laptop was found in a river with the hard drive missing.

It is also rumored that the charity foundation for young boys that the predator ran might have been used to cover sex trade. His golf tournament fund raisers may have been used as a cover to hook up pedaphiles with kids (high paying boosters may have been paying for more then the chance to play in a celebrity golf event...).

And Pennstate made millions off of this guys fund raising...

Do you have a link?

$10 says it's from GLP...

nectarprime wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:This story goes deeper then it looks at first.

The district attorney that investigated the incidents in 1998 (and was on the record as wantign to bring numerous high profle Pennstate types to justice) has gone missing and his laptop was found in a river with the hard drive missing.

It is also rumored that the charity foundation for young boys that the predator ran might have been used to cover sex trade. His golf tournament fund raisers may have been used as a cover to hook up pedaphiles with kids (high paying boosters may have been paying for more then the chance to play in a celebrity golf event...).

And Pennstate made millions off of this guys fund raising...

Do you have a link?

$10 says it's from GLP...

and GLP is?

mattyrm wrote:

AustonT wrote:...I feel like you don't understand what was said

Indeed.

I was referring to the people on the video outside his house going "we love you Joe!" and such.

Not..er.. well.. anything sexual.

Sorry mattyrm, it wasn't directed at you, but at this:

"I'm pretty sure that no one was roaring Sandusky's name with passion."

Just seems like a horrid thing to post seeing Sandusky was the rapist.

/facepalm

He was saying no one is saying Sandusky s name in passion they are rallying around Paterno

AustonT wrote:/facepalm

He was saying no one is saying Sandusky s name in passion they are rallying around Paterno

I know. and it was a HORRID choice of words given the gravity of the situation, IMHO.
I do read and comprehend the big and the little words.

PS

as to the McQueary pic you posted. I've heard so much crap flying over this today that
i wouldn't be surprised to see him be the next, and probably not the last, to go over this
nightmare. I'm really surprised he hasn't resigned, let alone get fired. If i found out what he
did, and didn't do the correct thing, i'd have a hard time living with my actions. or lack there of.

edit:spelling

Here's a timeline of events at the link below. It will not make anyone feel better, especially when you read the age of some of the victims and how long it took till it got to the alarm level it should have been at 12 years ago.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/09/penn-state-scandal-timeline-jerry-sandusky_n_1084204.htm?ref=mostpopular

And this article says it all:
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2011/11/10/omelas-state-university/

alarmingrick wrote:/is determined to take righteous offense

look guys the fact of the matter is Joe Paterno knew that it happened. He knew, and he sat there and did nothing. Like a coward. If I was dictator of america i would jail Paterno too, (it might not be the "legal" thing to do, but in my humble opinion he could use 6 months in a low security prison to think about it)

I mean common guys what would you do if you saw someone being raped? walk away?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKh2VnOo3xk

shadowsnip wrote:I mean common guys what would you do if you saw someone being raped? walk away?

Shot placement is critical.
And I +1 you to the list of people who think
A. Joe Paterno witnessed a rape
b. Joe Paterno was Batman

I wasn't saying paterno saw it, I'm saying he knew about it. I understand that you like the football coach. But he's a person and people are capable of making the wrong decision. Because he failed to act (along with others) more people had to have a hard road of recover. Paterno deserved to be fired. I thought he was a good guy, but he has no honor that i can see of.

When the courts get around to this trial, now that the media and us have already tried it, I hope justice is served.

Problem I have is nobody has been found guilty of anything yet; except by the media.

Why didn't McQuery just call the police immediately?

snurl wrote:

Why didn't McQuery just call the police immediately?

He should have.

But Big Joe is second only to Jesus Christ around those parts, and not much happened without his consent in those days if you wanted to keep your big time job in the big time that is/was Penn State footbal.

Penn State ininiated a cover up as directed by Big Joe.

The campus police in fact knew everything but did not arrest or press any charges.

Police also listened to the guy confess to one mother and yet still made no arrests nor took any action.

CT GAMER wrote:

snurl wrote:

Why didn't McQuery just call the police immediately?

He should have.

But Big Joe is second only to Jesus Christ around those parts, and not much happened without his consent in those days if you wanted to keep your big time job in the big time that is/was Penn State footbal.

Penn State ininiated a cover up as directed by Big Joe.

The campus police in fact knew everything but did not arrest or press any charges.

Police also listened to the guy confess to one mother and yet still made no arrests nor took any action.

It's almost as if you watched the Daily show lastnight.
Jon Stewart was channeling you're comments....
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-condemns-joe-paterno-and-penn-states-handling-of-child-rape-scandal/

alarmingrick wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:

snurl wrote:

Why didn't McQuery just call the police immediately?

He should have.

But Big Joe is second only to Jesus Christ around those parts, and not much happened without his consent in those days if you wanted to keep your big time job in the big time that is/was Penn State footbal.

Penn State ininiated a cover up as directed by Big Joe.

The campus police in fact knew everything but did not arrest or press any charges.

Police also listened to the guy confess to one mother and yet still made no arrests nor took any action.

It's almost as if you watched the Daily show lastnight.
Jon Stewart was channeling you're comments....
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-condemns-joe-paterno-and-penn-states-handling-of-child-rape-scandal/

This stuff has been discussed for days on talk radio/sports radio, written about in numerous blogs, and news columns. Daily show was a little late to the party tbh...

CT GAMER wrote:Penn State ininiated a cover up as directed by Big Joe.

The campus police in fact knew everything but did not arrest or press any charges.

Police also listened to the guy confess to one mother and yet still made no arrests nor took any action.

Interesting, I don't suppose you have any support for this.

If Paterno did direct a cover-up (one might even say it's a conspiracy), then he should lose his job and go to jail. If the campus police knew what was going on and didn't contact the police, they should lose their jobs and go to jail. If the cops heard this guy confess and didn't take any action, they should lose their jobs and go to jail.

biccat wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:Penn State ininiated a cover up as directed by Big Joe.

The campus police in fact knew everything but did not arrest or press any charges.

Police also listened to the guy confess to one mother and yet still made no arrests nor took any action.

Interesting, I don't suppose you have any support for this.

If Paterno did direct a cover-up (one might even say it's a conspiracy), then he should lose his job and go to jail. If the campus police knew what was going on and didn't contact the police, they should lose their jobs and go to jail. If the cops heard this guy confess and didn't take any action, they should lose their jobs and go to jail.

bicatt I assume with as much time as you spend on the internet that you know how to google some of the massive amounts of stories, reports and discusssion that has happened in just the past few days on this, many of which discuss the points I made above if you really wanted to research the case.

But since you are struggling here is a link to one very interesting piece for starters: part of the Grand Jury report that was generated in one of the prior investigations that was then buried:

http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/sandusky-grand-jury-presentment.pdf

I don't know about you, but if I have an employee, and if that employee has been the subject of a grand jury investigation for child sexual abuse, and other employees have reported to me seeing him rape children in my own facility, I certainly don't continue to allow him to be in my facility.

The predator was still working out and showering in the Penn State Facility up until last week, and given an office, etc.

This column lays out the timeline going back to the ninties for those not up to speed on how far back this story goes, or the scope of penn State's/ Joes involvement:

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/who_knew_what_about_jerry_sand.html