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The Crabjacks have the same PIP.

I don't know why the light warjacks have different PIPs, though.

H.B.M.C. wrote:... am I crazy or are the models on the far left and far right not exactly the same, except one is just smaller? They're in the same pose, same head, same colours, same armour - everything in the same spot. One's just smaller.

They're both identical (just like in the old metal set) but one is poorly photoshopped to look as if it were further away.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I realise I am not all that familiar with PP models, but tell me:



... am I crazy or are the models on the far left and far right not exactly the same, except one is just smaller? They're in the same pose, same head, same colours, same armour - everything in the same spot. One's just smaller.

Now concentrate Dougal..The ones on the left are closer than the one on the right, because it is standing farther back.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I realise I am not all that familiar with PP models, but tell me:
... am I crazy or are the models on the far left and far right not exactly the same, except one is just smaller? They're in the same pose, same head, same colours, same armour - everything in the same spot. One's just smaller.

Ha, well spotted on the bad Photoshop. Now you mention it, the shadows on the boxes are all over the place too, with some models missing them and Kaya's being the same height as the Warpwolf's.

OT I quite like the new look on the Trolls. The only model I have a problem with is the Warpwolf, due to it having freakishly large hands and looking like it's got a wolf mask on, as the fur on the head ends very abruptly.

malfred wrote:The Crabjacks have the same PIP.

I don't know why the light warjacks have different PIPs, though.

Because the heavies come as one box with the arms and heads to makes any of the variations on that particular chassis. The lights only give you the arms and head for a single version of that jack, and all the different versions being in different boxes.

Yeah, it's pretty noticable- an odd way to arrange the models when you want someone to be able to grasp the scale of them!

Perhaps the one on the right Was photoshopped in, if these are new models and they only had one sample of each to paint up, or the like? It would explain why, despite being plastic (and thus, seemingly more posable), the two impalers seem to be in exactly the same pose.

They're all 'shopped in. Hence no bases.

There's probably only one plastic Impaler been painted by the studio too.

I'll beinterested to see how poseable the plastic beasts are. With jacks it's all big metal ball joints on the shoulders, with most all other joints being fairly fixed. The beasts don't have the same luxury of easy detail free ball joints so I bet they're going to be nearly mono pose.

Aduro wrote:

malfred wrote:The Crabjacks have the same PIP.

I don't know why the light warjacks have different PIPs, though.

Because the heavies come as one box with the arms and heads to makes any of the variations on that particular chassis. The lights only give you the arms and head for a single version of that jack, and all the different versions being in different boxes.

Right, but what I should have said was, why didn't they release them as kits?

malfred wrote:

Aduro wrote:

malfred wrote:The Crabjacks have the same PIP.

I don't know why the light warjacks have different PIPs, though.

Because the heavies come as one box with the arms and heads to makes any of the variations on that particular chassis. The lights only give you the arms and head for a single version of that jack, and all the different versions being in different boxes.

Right, but what I should have said was, why didn't they release them as kits?

Hmm, maybe its because heavies are usually a good staple in any list while lights may be less popular so to squeeze a little extra profit, they separate the lights.

Heavy WJ=more popular, more likely to sell
Light WJ=less popular, less likely to sell

I may be wrong though

Ok. I see. The reason I asked is because, as I said, I'm not familiar with the models, and assumed that the one on the far right was meant to be a different type of model to the one on the far left, and that the picture was showing you the units from largest to smallest.

So it's just showing 4 models, only one of them is meant to be in the distance. There's no actual model throwing spears like that that's just smaller than the big one?

Aduro wrote:I'll beinterested to see how poseable the plastic beasts are. With jacks it's all big metal ball joints on the shoulders, with most all other joints being fairly fixed. The beasts don't have the same luxury of easy detail free ball joints so I bet they're going to be nearly mono pose.

I've never put together a plastic 'beast, but i think that's the case.

Lookng forward to the new helljack to go with my albeit limited Cryx colection.

malfred wrote:

Aduro wrote:

malfred wrote:The Crabjacks have the same PIP.

I don't know why the light warjacks have different PIPs, though.

Because the heavies come as one box with the arms and heads to makes any of the variations on that particular chassis. The lights only give you the arms and head for a single version of that jack, and all the different versions being in different boxes.

Right, but what I should have said was, why didn't they release them as kits?

They posted once saying it was an issue of cost. Arms on a light jack making up more of the total material than arms on a heavy or something like that but otherwise it would have doubled the price on a light jack to include all the options in the box.

Personal belief is just that they didn't forsee the magnization thing that got so popular with the heavies and thus basicly disallowed it on the lights.

malfred wrote:Right, but what I should have said was, why didn't they release them as kits?

I think I read somewhere that it had to do with the percieved value of the ´jacks.

People are willing to pay more for a heavy than they´re for a light. A modular light kit in the same kind as the heavy would be more expensive than the individual lights are now. The average player (those who don´t magnetize) would not be as willing to pay, dunno, $25-$30 for a light, while he might be perfectly fine to pay $35 for a heavy.

Ghetorix upgrade kit for the plastic dire wolf is up!



360 view available here:

http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/circle-orboros/warbeasts/ghetorix

Needs more skulls.

spireland wrote:Needs more skulls.

Runes are to PP what Skulls are to GW.

Seriously, they put them on everything.

"That's a nice werewolf you've got there. Know what it needs? Runes."

biccat wrote:

spireland wrote:Needs more skulls.

Runes are to Hordes what Skulls are to GW.

Seriously, they put them on everything.

"That's a nice werewolf you've got there. Know what it needs? Runes."

Fixed your quote. Goggles are to Warmachine what skulls are to GW. Each line has its own signature style.

Yeah, it's especially funny in the artwork, where there are random lines of runes drawn on top of the images

I like the new warpwolves, though- they've definitely grown on me, and I think they definitely improve on the basic warpwolf (although nothing can really match the metal pureblood one).

RiTides wrote:Yeah, it's especially funny in the artwork, where there are random lines of runes drawn on top of the images

Not actually random. Runes do actually appear when Casters do their spells in the fluff.

Also, Ghetorix is a must buy and I don't even play Circle(yet).

Platuan4th wrote:

RiTides wrote:Yeah, it's especially funny in the artwork, where there are random lines of runes drawn on top of the images

Not actually random. Runes do actually appear when Casters do their spells in the fluff.

Also, Ghetorix is a must buy and I don't even play Circle(yet).

They also typically spell out the name of either their feat or part of their spell list. Handy for squeezing sneak peeks out of concept art.

biccat wrote:

spireland wrote:Needs more skulls.

Runes are to PP what Skulls are to GW.

Seriously, they put them on everything.

"That's a nice werewolf you've got there. Know what it needs? Runes."

Makes sense. When it's done, it's been runed.

@ Platuan4th / Laughing Man- good to know!

I am a little underwhelmed by the model. He seems really static, just standing there waiting for orders. It's ok I guess, and is mostly on the base (something many of the large war beasts have issues with) but I think it could have been a bit more dynamic and interesting.

Still, I want one now. :(


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Woah! It is 17$ on top of the plastic kit cost! Hell with that... Rackham will come to the rescue yet again!

Yeah, that's a downer on the plastic warbeast kits- they really don't seem to be saving much money, unlike the only plastic infantry I have experience with- fennblades. $50 or so for 10 guys, as opposed to something like over $100 for a full unit of kriel warriors (metal) although they have a lot of unit attachments.

Wehrkind wrote:I am a little underwhelmed by the model. He seems really static, just standing there waiting for orders. It's ok I guess, and is mostly on the base (something many of the large war beasts have issues with) but I think it could have been a bit more dynamic and interesting.

Still, I want one now. :(


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Woah! It is 17$ on top of the plastic kit cost! Hell with that... Rackham will come to the rescue yet again!

To be fair, that puts Ghetorix at a total of $52 USD, which is on par with other Character Heavies, both combo and full metal.

Really want the Trolls n Skorne

Awesome stuff!

Yeah, the plastic Warpwolves, including that Ghetorix are really awesome looking.

I was pretty meh about Ghetorix until I saw the model. Now I want one.