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hotsauceman1 wrote:
Howard A Treesong wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:I feel sorry for the kids though. They will never have a normal life. It will be impossible for them to get a job because of their history with the church and there thinking is skewed.


They probably all give each other jobs anyway, that's how you maintain an inward looking cult mentality.

Doupt it. The church is falling apart, when its founder dies so will it. A church requires an influx of members more then just popping them out.


You bring people in gradually, you don't send your kids out to get exposed to the real world and other people who have subversive ideas, and you don't fill your businesses and other contacts with outsiders who don't think the same. Outsiders are brought into your sphere for conversion, once 'inside' and part of the church you all associate with each other like a big family/community. This is how it is with Scientologists and Jehovah's Witnesses, if someone wishes to leave the 'community' they are effectively exiled and find that all their old friends and relatives totally cut them out of their lives, 'disconnection' as it's sometimes called.
   
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Howard A Treesong wrote:This is how it is with Scientologists and Jehovah's Witnesses, if someone wishes to leave the 'community' they are effectively exiled and find that all their old friends and relatives totally cut them out of their lives, 'disconnection' as it's sometimes called.


Not to besmirch the faith, but many former Mormons tell similar stories.

The pressure for Jewish people to marry other Jewish people is also a familiar topic of jest, and serious discussion.

Though, to be fair, that's pretty common among all groups of people with a history of persecution.

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dogma wrote:
Howard A Treesong wrote:This is how it is with Scientologists and Jehovah's Witnesses, if someone wishes to leave the 'community' they are effectively exiled and find that all their old friends and relatives totally cut them out of their lives, 'disconnection' as it's sometimes called.


Not to besmirch the faith, but many former Mormons tell similar stories.

Same, I have a frind who is mormon and i am the only one who is outside the church. And well their church kinda scares me sometimes. Me being catholic i know our church can aswell but some mormons scare me with how both kind and condemning they can be.

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I uh... what? Perhaps you can re-write that? The grammar was ... confusing.

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hotsauceman1 wrote:
dogma wrote:
Howard A Treesong wrote:This is how it is with Scientologists and Jehovah's Witnesses, if someone wishes to leave the 'community' they are effectively exiled and find that all their old friends and relatives totally cut them out of their lives, 'disconnection' as it's sometimes called.


Not to besmirch the faith, but many former Mormons tell similar stories.

Same, I have a frind who is mormon and i am the only one who is outside the church. And well their church kinda scares me sometimes. Me being catholic i know our church can aswell but some mormons scare me with how both kind and condemning they can be.

You can't compare Mormonism to Catholicism. The Catholic Church is widespread in areas like Ireland Italy, Spain, North-Eastern United States. It's too big and liberal to be as mean as it used to.
Anyway the Catholic Church is more like the Imperium. As long as you show up for Mass on Sunday and you smite the enemies of the One True Faith, you can pretty much do what you like...

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Melissia wrote:I uh... what? Perhaps you can re-write that? The grammar was ... confusing.

He is the only non-mormon friend of a person who is a mormon. He feels slightly scared by mormons...

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purplefood wrote:
Melissia wrote:I uh... what? Perhaps you can re-write that? The grammar was ... confusing.

He is the only non-mormon friend of a person who is a mormon. He feels slightly scared by mormons...
Ah. That makes more sense.

Some communities (including Mormon ones) heavily exclude/shun people who disappoint them, especially those who disappoint them on religious grounds...

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Melissia wrote:
purplefood wrote:
Melissia wrote:I uh... what? Perhaps you can re-write that? The grammar was ... confusing.

He is the only non-mormon friend of a person who is a mormon. He feels slightly scared by mormons...
Ah. That makes more sense.

Some communities (including Mormon ones) heavily exclude/shun people who disappoint them, especially those who disappoint them on religious grounds...

Though oddly enough some communities also go out of their way and try to recruit random people into their faith...
There is a collection of Mormons in my city who regularly take to the streets in pairs to try and cnvince people to join their faith...
Nice fellows but a bit too gullible...

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purplefood wrote:
Melissia wrote:
purplefood wrote:
Melissia wrote:I uh... what? Perhaps you can re-write that? The grammar was ... confusing.

He is the only non-mormon friend of a person who is a mormon. He feels slightly scared by mormons...
Ah. That makes more sense.

Some communities (including Mormon ones) heavily exclude/shun people who disappoint them, especially those who disappoint them on religious grounds...

Though oddly enough some communities also go out of their way and try to recruit random people into their faith...
There is a collection of Mormons in my city who regularly take to the streets in pairs to try and cnvince people to join their faith...
Nice fellows but a bit too gullible...

They are called missionaries.
They go around converting other. They are young men who sign up for two years. ITs required(socially) to go.
There is actually a process called "Chip'em and dip'em" in which mormons promised fish and chips to poor people to convert them to their faith to up their convert numbers.

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Can't someone hack into their facebook account and unfriend these people.

http://news.yahoo.com/facebook-defriending-led-double-murder-police-014442236.html

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I'll do just about anything for a proper fish and chips.

Lord knows I haven't seen on since I moved to the west coast.

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Joey wrote:
You can't compare Mormonism to Catholicism. The Catholic Church is widespread in areas like Ireland Italy, Spain, North-Eastern United States. It's too big and liberal to be as mean as it used to.
Anyway the Catholic Church is more like the Imperium. As long as you show up for Mass on Sunday and you smite the enemies of the One True Faith, you can pretty much do what you like...


Its also important to note that Mormonism, while obviously a religion, has a lot of trappings that are reminiscent of a unique culture or ethnic group due to being basically chased across the country to found Utah; which they at various times tried to develop as an independent nation.

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So kinda like Texas in a way, except instaed of religion for Texas its' guns!

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I can only say I'm seeing a lot of misconceptions about Mormons on this thread.
I say the as a member of the LDS faith.


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hotsauceman1 wrote:
purplefood wrote:
Melissia wrote:
purplefood wrote:
Melissia wrote:I uh... what? Perhaps you can re-write that? The grammar was ... confusing.

He is the only non-mormon friend of a person who is a mormon. He feels slightly scared by mormons...
Ah. That makes more sense.

Some communities (including Mormon ones) heavily exclude/shun people who disappoint them, especially those who disappoint them on religious grounds...

Though oddly enough some communities also go out of their way and try to recruit random people into their faith...
There is a collection of Mormons in my city who regularly take to the streets in pairs to try and cnvince people to join their faith...
Nice fellows but a bit too gullible...

They are called missionaries.
They go around converting other. They are young men who sign up for two years. ITs required(socially) to go.
There is actually a process called "Chip'em and dip'em" in which mormons promised fish and chips to poor people to convert them to their faith to up their convert numbers.



It's not very likely missionaries from the Mormon church are going around bribing people into baptism.
Any mission president hearing about that kind of conduct would send them home from the mission and they would most likely face diciplinary action once they did get back home.


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As far as shunning people goes, I know a great many Mormons and ex Mormons that don't live according to church doctrin. Along with other Mormons, I've answered enough calls in the night to help out people who have quit the church, with food, labor, or other needs they might have to know that saying they are shunned and reviled is a mainly bogus statement

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And I've heard stories from ex-mormons of them being utterly cut off from their families. Mind you I've basically heard the same thing about evangalistic fundamentalists too, and none of it is as bad as scientology, heh.

There's always some bad apples.

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POS they are. Maybe there will be a squad of men in black there to throw things at those evil bastards.



remember this?

This is exactly how this should be handled from now on. Gotta give credit to the Black Bears. +1 Rebs.

Westboro Baptist Church Goes To Mississippi – And Loses
Posted by: MacAoidh on Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 0:24

On Saturday USMC Staff Sgt. Jason Rogers, who was killed in action in Afghanistan April 7, was buried in Brandon, Mississippi.
That, by itself, is a sadly unremarkable – though certainly noteworthy and solemn – occasion for us to mark.
And in fact when Sgt. Rogers’ body returned to Brandon it was greeted by hundreds, or perhaps even thousands, of well-wishers who gathered at the roadside to honor the fallen American hero. The dashboard camera from Mississippi state trooper Elmo Townsend’s cruiser gives an indication of the scene last Thursday.

What is most notable about Sgt. Rogers’ funeral in Brandon, however, is what didn’t happen.
You see, the troglodytes from Westboro Baptist Church had threatened to spew their poison at Sgt. Rogers’ funeral.
But the Westboro mob wasn’t on the scene, and Sgt. Rogers was laid to rest without incident – thank God.
Why weren’t there protestors?
Planning ahead by the locals, as it turns out.

From an Ole Miss sports message board, a tidbit of information…

A couple of days before, one of them (Westboro protestors) ran his mouth at a Brandon gas station and got his arse waxed. Police were called and the beaten man could not give much of a description of who beat him. When they canvassed the station and spoke to the large crowd that had gathered around, no one seemed to remember anything about what had happened.
Rankin County handled this thing perfectly. There were many things that were put into place that most will never know about and at great expense to the county.
Most of the morons never made it out of their hotel parking lot. It seems that certain Rankin county pickup trucks were parked directly behind any car that had Kansas plates in the hotel parking lot and the drivers mysteriously disappeared until after the funeral was over. Police were called but their wrecker service was running behind and it was going to be a few hours before they could tow the trucks so the Kansas plated cars could get out.
A few made it to the funeral but were ushered away to be questioned about a crime they might have possibly been involved in. Turns out, after a few hours of questioning, that they were not involved and they were allowed to go on about their business.
Fred Phelps, the disbarred lawyer and Democrat activist who leads the Westboro congregation, will undoubtedly pursue some form of legal action for the way his people were thwarted in Brandon. Let him try. There isn’t a jury in Mississippi which will see things his way.
This is a template for how to handle the Westboro people. If lawsuits don’t work, other means will. Whatever it takes to keep them from harassing bereaved military families on the day their fallen loved ones are laid to rest.


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alarmingrick wrote:
Frazzled wrote:I don't beat people up. Thats for girly boys and elemntary school kids. Frazzled believes in the concept of peace through superior firepower.


Should that be with "superior Weiner firepower"?

Frazzled wrote:Could we "take them for a ride, " put white hoods on them, and drop them in the middle of Compton? Would it be wrong to put it on national TV or even better pay per view?


Are there lots of Weiner dogs in Compton?

Is this the real Fraz? 2 posts and NO mention of the mighty Weiner dog? Something is not right in the world....

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