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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 15:46:03
Subject: Re:Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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carmachu wrote:helium42 wrote:Quick, everybody buy up whatever metal marines you need now or foresee needing in the future.
Not really worth it anymore. With the full court press to finecast, I'[m heading over to warmahordes.
... where metal is phased out as well and even the (more expensive) plastic versions contains resin
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 15:50:56
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Calculating Commissar
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Yup. Might I suggest giving up on the wargaming hobby altogether? Just imagine how much money you'd save.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 15:52:40
Subject: Re:Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Lord of the Fleet
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Kroothawk wrote:
... where metal is phased out as well and even the (more expensive) plastic versions contains resin 
I smell an incoming debate about what the heck Plastic-Resin really is, just like all those other times
Its plastic!
Its not plastic!
Its resin!
Definition of resin is blah blah blah
Thats not the type of resin we're talking about!
Although I dont remember them being more expensive, just the same price
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Agamemnon2 wrote:Yup. Might I suggest giving up on the wargaming hobby altogether? Just imagine how much money you'd save.
Clothes? Bah who needs them! And food, I bet I can survive on the cockroaches that live in my house alone!
There is money to be saved everywhere my friend
Anyways back to resin marines. Well at least bitz will be easier to do I suppose
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 16:50:45
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Ouze wrote:SickSix wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:I really wanted those LotD models. Ah well...
THANK GOODNESS I just ordered and received all the LotD models I didn't have! The two-packs went up 8 dollars! But the singles only went up 1 dollar...... That is GW math for you.
Yes, GW math is terrible, just like stating a $13.25 model ( LotD singles) going up to $16 apiece is a "1 dollar" increase. But it just wouldn't be a Finecast release without a 20% price increase, would it?*
So far as the TFC; I think it has nowhere to go but up. The metal model is a nightmare, so I think a $6 premium to have it in Finecast is probably acceptable. That being said for what the TFC actually does and it's statline it was probably $20 overpriced back when it was $50.
*Well, at least 20% - Chaplain Cassius is up 30%.
Yes I made a fool of myself there. I thought they were $15 for some reason. But GW doesn't look any better for it lol. A 3 dollar increase is just crazy.
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SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 17:11:28
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Screaming Shining Spear
Central Coast, California USA
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The Thunderfire Cannon is the most ridiculously symmetrical model. I don't know why they released in metal rather than plastic, maybe to save on the initial startup costs on it (keeping the metal mold vs. tooling the metal block for the plastic mold). IMO releasing that model in plastic for $35 would have been keen.
Pity about the price hikes, but of course it is may. I need to find me the GW Direct LOTD models and the Chapter Masters.
And I agree with whomever said releasing the old shoulderpads was cheeky without resizing them. You can get those things to fit the most recent edition models, but they're undersized when compared to the plastic shoulders contained within chapter specific sprues release from Black Templars forward. I tried mixing some of the metal ones with the plastics and I noticed the size difference immediately (perfectionist). This lead to me getting rid of all of my metal DA and tactical arrow shoulders.
I really wish that they'd make a sprue with nothing but shouldpads. The various types of Assault, Tactical, Devastator, Command Squads, etc.
Anyways, this. Automatically Appended Next Post: Okay just priced the LTOD Marines that are GW Direct...about $120....$10 per troop. That hurts me right in my face. It's really hard to imagine prices going up from there on regular, troop sized models.
I gotta stop thinking that miniatures as Pokemon, and I don't gotta catch 'em all.
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THE FUN HAS BEEN DOUBLED!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 18:10:12
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Zwan1One wrote:Thanks for the warning. Ordered the chapters masters this morning so I get them in glorious metal!
Here is the link to the metal Space Marine Chapter Masters: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1060070
For some reason searching chapter masters or even Space Marine Chapter Masters will not find the (much cheaper- $35 vs $60 individually) four figure set.
Tim
Edit: Oops, its showing "No longer Available" and the single figures are "Expected to despatch in five to six weeks."
So too late to buy these in metal from GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 21:25:03
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
Alexandria, VA
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Anyone know what the bike upgrades include?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 21:33:59
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Since the Iron Hands upgrade is the bits from that box, I'd say it likely will be the bits from the White Scars bikers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 21:37:36
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Goddammit where is a resin Sanguinor??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 21:57:51
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Indiana
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The bike upgrade is seperate from the white scars upgrades however, only reason I am wondering.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 21:58:31
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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MajorTom11 wrote:Goddammit where is a resin Sanguinor??
What's wrong with the metal one, Tom?
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 22:00:47
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Leth wrote:The bike upgrade is seperate from the white scars upgrades however, only reason I am wondering.
That is a very good spot.
I wonder, because there is no "bike squad upgrade" kit available right now. Just the White Scars one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 22:22:50
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Unless they're Finecasting the metal Sergeant & two special weapon dudes they did when the bikes first came out.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 22:25:26
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Dysartes wrote:MajorTom11 wrote:Goddammit where is a resin Sanguinor??
What's wrong with the metal one, Tom?
Although I am usually quite happy to grab up metals still, in this case I am wanting it for the wings and a chop up on the body, so finecast would be very desirable for a heavy chop conversion...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 22:45:33
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Dakka Veteran
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Dysartes wrote:MajorTom11 wrote:Goddammit where is a resin Sanguinor??
What's wrong with the metal one, Tom?
It's metal, silly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 22:51:45
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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For a non-conversion I still prefer metal actually  , explanation 2 posts above as to why I want Sanguinor in Resin though -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 22:55:58
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Dakka Veteran
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Yeah, I can't deal with the chipping though, you can't look at them without a piece breaking off.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/26 02:07:15
Subject: Re:Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Dangerous Duet
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Khornate, bonjour, moi aussi j'suis Quebecois... are you in Montreal? If so, make sure to check out the tournament forum, there is an event in a month if you didn't already know.
With that out of the way, everything that is happening at home is not pertinent to this thread. I sympathize with frustrations (especially after today), but Rule#2 of Dakka is to Stay on Topic. As such I have had to edit out your post. Please try to confine your posts to wargaming, and also, seriously, please try to stay calm at home as well, this will all pass, no need to do anything drastic. - MajorTom11
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/26 02:12:52
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Martial Arts Fiday
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:::awkward:::
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"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
-Nobody Ever
Proverbs 18:2
"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.
warboss wrote:
GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up. 
Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.
EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/26 02:42:28
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Dangerous Duet
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Please see above -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/26 06:35:08
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Stoffer wrote:Yeah, I can't deal with the chipping though, you can't look at them without a piece breaking off.
That's quite an exaggeration there, Stoffer - even without varnish, unless I'm knocking them over on a harshly-textured surface, my metal figures don't seem to chip. With the right varnishing (I've been advised gloss, then matt), the odds on chipping drop even further.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/26 08:08:36
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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Hmm, well fine(cast)
I will hold off a bit but I don't know, maybe they still have plastic options for magnetizing. We will see
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The Good: 8,000
Ultramarine, Scouts, Blood Angels, Dark Angels
The Bad: 8,000
Chaos, Daemons, Dark Eldar, Orks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/26 12:21:46
Subject: Re:Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Dakka Veteran
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I don't usually do panic purchases (ahead of price adjustments, for example), but Direct Only items turning into Finecast is whole another matter. I simply had to purchase the remaining Legion of the Damned models, even if I don't collect Marines of any kind.
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That place is the harsh dark future far left with only war left. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/26 12:23:53
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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The LotD squad box is no longer available. The singles and doubles are still up for order.
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SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
My Youtube Channel
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking. = Epic First Post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/26 16:52:52
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I decided to mail order all the LotD models I didn't already have as well.
Btw if a specific model already says "ships in 3 to 4 weeks" on the site that does not necessarily mean you can't get the metal version anymore if you order it before saturday (probably). The local GW store manager called HQ to ask about a certain few miniatures, and was told that although they didn't know anything about a change to FC (no, of course not  ) they still had a specific number of said models left in storage, and as long as that is true and the price and/or description hasn't changed on the website they are available to order in metal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/28 15:05:44
Subject: Re:Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Does anybody know why these have been gone from the GW site (and how long they have been gone)?
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m710083a_99060101439_DamnedLegionnaires2_873x627.jpg
Last wednesday I mail ordered the whole lot of them, and was already wondering why there was no "Damned Legionnaires 2". They weren't there wednesday. If they ran out of them they usually list an item as "no longer available" instead of removing it altogether.
So I just happen to visit the local game store today, browse the remaining metal blister (which aren't that many left), and I find the blister with these exact two guys is one of the two only LotD they still had hanging on the rack (the other being the Multi-melta). Talk about lucky coincidence
Also, looking at the list in the first post of this thread, I only see these listed:
- Legion of the Damned squad (I assume this is the current 5 model box)
- Damned sergeant: bolt pistol & power weapon
- Damned Legionnaire: multi melta
- Damned Legionnaire: heavy flamer
- Damned Legionnaire: flamer
- Space Marine Damned Legionnaires 1 (looking at the price there are 2 guys in this blister)
- Space Marine Damned Legionnaires 2 (^^)
Two blisters seem to be missing...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/28 19:40:11
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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ShumaGorath wrote:How they justify a 56 dollar thunderfire is beyond me.
They have to cover the cost of paying all the laborers needed to dump the massive amounts of bad casts into the garbage...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/28 19:54:39
Subject: Re:Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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TBD wrote:
- Space Marine Damned Legionnaires 1 (looking at the price there are 2 guys in this blister)
- Space Marine Damned Legionnaires 2 (^^)
Two blisters seem to be missing...
I am willing to bet that there are actually going to be 4 guys per pack for those selections. Old #1+#2= New #1 etc.
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SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
My Youtube Channel
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking. = Epic First Post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/28 20:05:36
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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YAY!!!!!!!!!!!
Im getting telion and a Thunderfire cannon.
And i wonder what the bike squad upgrade pack is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/28 23:49:06
Subject: Space Marine Finecast Wave (May 19th)
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Fixture of Dakka
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hotsauceman1 wrote:YAY!!!!!!!!!!!
Im getting telion and a Thunderfire cannon.
And i wonder what the bike squad upgrade pack is.
Bike squad upgrade hopefully is the Sarge, Plasma gunner, and Melta gunner rider bitz. I've been wanting to get them, but not really to pay $40 or $45 for the kit when I have plenty of bikes already. This, the White Scars one, and the Iron Hands bits will let me get what I want and not have to get the rest of the kit, saving me about $100.
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