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How about making rules for Primarches and not giving any points for them?

Then you go for 'you can only field a primarch if your opponent fields one.'

Then you just try to balance them all against each other.

Has there been any update on the next Imperial Armors? Still waiting fro Tzeentch to get more love from FW.

Sorry Mahu but according to quote Kroothawk posted the Necron book replaces the Tzeentch one.

Kroothawk wrote:

Frgt/10 wrote:The DE book got pushed until after the necron/minotaur one. The Tzeench/TSons/Penal Colony book got scraped and replaced by the necron/minotaur one

Etharin wrote:Sorry Mahu but according to quote Kroothawk posted the Necron book replaces the Tzeentch one.

Kroothawk wrote:

Frgt/10 wrote:The DE book got pushed until after the necron/minotaur one. The Tzeench/TSons/Penal Colony book got scraped and replaced by the necron/minotaur one

Well that is disappointing. I was really looking forward to that book.

Compel wrote:How about making rules for Primarches and not giving any points for them?
Then you go for 'you can only field a primarch if your opponent fields one.

Good idea. What again was the name of the Tyranid Primarch?

Kroothawk wrote:

Compel wrote:How about making rules for Primarches and not giving any points for them?
Then you go for 'you can only field a primarch if your opponent fields one.

Good idea. What again was the name of the Tyranid Primarch?

Just ally with an Imperial army. Problem solved.

Primarchs seem like the obvious conclusion don't they? I fear a two-parter with a loyalist book and a second book of traitors, thought the smart money says they'll split them between the two volumes. That being said this is all speculation on my part. Please, no one quote this for truth.
Looking forward to a Mortarion model and a Magnus the Red model. I really hope they don't make an emperor model, though. Since the info around the guy is hazy at best it'll be nice to let the community keep cranking out customs, which more often than not look really good.

I think it would be a great idea if they started with Ullanor Crusade. This would allow them to;


Add some new 'super' Ork units (Considering the size that the Ork Nobz/Warboss were supposed to be)
Add a Xenos special Urrlak Urruk
Gives us a couple of Primarchs/Legions and Imperial Units
Is a natural start to the series
Opens up the possibility of a Ullanor novel(s)
etc.

They said they're only covering the HH I think, which rules out Xenos campaigns like Ullanor.

Just Dave wrote:They said they're only covering the HH I think, which rules out Xenos campaigns like Ullanor.

Xenos armies such as orks and eldar may be aloud since they are that old, but if they did allow xenos it would cause trouble due to the primarchs. What ork is going to take out a primarch? So they probably should keep it Heresy and Heresy armies only.

Kroothawk wrote:

Frgt/10 wrote:The Tzeench/TSons/Penal Colony book got scraped and replaced by the necron/minotaur one

feth you, Forgeworld.

feth you right in the ear.

Hmm, not just Custodes, but the possibility of Sisters of Silence too? They seem to be quite a prominent faction in the heresy.

Since the Word Bearers started the whole mess basically... I wonder how soon they will be addressed in the series. I'd love to see the models of them pre-Heresy after reading First Heretic! With Dark Apostles and all kinds of good cultists in the next CSM book, if you sprinkle in some Forgeworld lovin' it would be awesome. I do not own any forgeworld because I was never interested... but now... woohoo!

EDIT: kant spel 2 xeyeted!

(from the BL books anyway...)

I wonder how much this will overlap with the HH book series. FW books tend to be quite detailed, and cover everything from force composition to individual skirmishes within campaigns and battles. Will the BL guys find themselves with a book (or books) that cover the Siege of Terra before they have a chance to write their own?

H.B.M.C. wrote:I wonder how much this will overlap with the HH book series. FW books tend to be quite detailed, and cover everything from force composition to individual skirmishes within campaigns and battles. Will the BL guys find themselves with a book (or books) that cover the Siege of Terra before they have a chance to write their own?

Probably not. I have a feeling that the releases fro the HH books will be slower than people think so that FW is a little behind the BL series regarding the timeline of events. As is, they're already about 4-5 years behind and they'd be kind of stupid not to start at Istvaan III. It's just a matter of will both Istvaans be in the same book.

Well this puts a damper on my desire to start Dark Angels when the book comes out. Can't use the same models for both games since their armor changes color. Maybe if I just paint them black with green highlights to give the impression of green armor it will work out.

Hopefully the primarch models don't disappoint. They shouldn't be more than a head larger than normal marines, right?

Is there anything else major we need for the heresy books model wise? We already have land raider and rhino kits for pre-heresy. All the armor kits and weapons. Perhaps official jetbikes, which would make a Dark Angels player happy (please god let them have an actual jetbike unit!). An official custodian army would be a welcome site too.

Oh God I hadn't thought it that. Jetbikes! What a great idea!

The rules of the primarchs don't need to match their fluff. Look at drogo his fluff is crazy, he bests a demon primarch in single combat and he lives in the warp, but his rules don't reflect this

Has their been any new modles from forge world put on display this year at games day yet? Or is that a negative this year?

Very nice! I'm genuinely excited to see how this turns out.

Did no one ask if FW/GW are working on making FW legal in GW games?

'bout fething time they did this, only problem is they didn't start off with a great crusade era game. One day I will get the Interrex troops I so desire...

shank911 wrote:Did no one ask if FW/GW are working on making FW legal in GW games?

Why? This is covered in every IA book. With Opponent's permission.

What more are you wanting, man?

kronk wrote:

shank911 wrote:Did no one ask if FW/GW are working on making FW legal in GW games?

Why? This is covered in every IA book. With Opponent's permission.

What more are you wanting, man?

GW to come out with a statement of some sort, everyone I play with is one of those "I don't have it so you can't play it types"
But they have no problem playing GK list or Venom spam list.

kronk wrote:Why? This is covered in every IA book. With Opponent's permission.

'Cept that's not what it says in every IA book.

shank911 wrote:GW to come out with a statement of some sort, everyone I play with is one of those "I don't have it so you can't play it types"

There is no law forcing people to play with you. Sorry.

Kroothawk wrote:

shank911 wrote:GW to come out with a statement of some sort, everyone I play with is one of those "I don't have it so you can't play it types"

There is no law forcing people to play with you. Sorry.

It's not like that, many players (myself included) really enjoy the units put forth by Forge World and really want to be able to use these awesome models and rulesets they've put out.

I just want to see GW say that FW is on the same level as the old Codex: Armageddon and Codex: Eye of Terror. Y'know proper expansions that add to the flavor and depth of the game.

Instead alot of people in areas I've played in treat Forge World units with the same deniability as player created apoc units.

Personally I'm sick of this massive prick waving between Games Workshop, Black Library, and Forge World. I want Sergeant Rafen in the BA codex, Uriel Ventris in the SM codex. How about Honsou in the CSM book or Eisenhorn in one of the Inquisition codices. The Arch Arsonist would be a bad arse addition to the Orks and Kais would be an awesome character to have in a tau force.

For a long time I didn't get why these 3 groups didn't like making money until a friend who had lived in England explained that this is just an ego trip and is pretty inherent in the English mindset.

I just hope one day they realize the money they're missing out on and give us more awesomeness to throw money at. I mean don't they like money? Don't they realize they can profit from one another? Synergistic marketing would be so wonderful. New chaos model from FW when the new Chaos codex comes out. New Ork novel from Black Library after a new wave of green skinned models hits the shelves. But no, alas they're too busy competing for nerd's attention to realize their potential.

Kroothawk wrote:

Compel wrote:How about making rules for Primarches and not giving any points for them?
Then you go for 'you can only field a primarch if your opponent fields one.

Good idea. What again was the name of the Tyranid Primarch?

Does the imprisoned Primarch count for Necrons?

Sigvatr wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:

Compel wrote:How about making rules for Primarches and not giving any points for them?
Then you go for 'you can only field a primarch if your opponent fields one.

Good idea. What again was the name of the Tyranid Primarch?

Does the imprisoned Primarch count for Necrons?

Is it actually confirmed that it is a Primarch though?

Anyway, FW would be silly indeed not to include Primarch models and rules in their HH books - I strongly suspect we'll see them.

And I, for one, welcome our Primarch Overlords!