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gorgon - agree on all counts!

I've still got a large run of Micronauts comics somewhere, in a box... the Mantlo/Golden stuff was so good...

I also had a lot of the toys...Baron Karza and Oberon!

And many others...now long, long gone!

So yeah, I was kind of hoping QUANTUM REALM = MICROVERSE because of all that, and the weird sort of potential already did that storyline with the Wasp in the 'regular' Marvel Universe had me hopeful too!

I still have my Force Commander and Oberon. My kids play with them. They'd probably like the rest of my Micronauts stuff too (we had the battle cruiser, the exploration lab, hydrocopter, hornetroid, terraphant, etc.), but most of it disappeared...which is to say it's no longer at my parents' house, but I don't have it now and never took it, yet my mom says she never threw anything out. How does that happen?

My Kenner Star Wars stuff is spotty like that. Have most of my figures, my X-Wing, Snowspeeder and AT-ST. My brother has his Falcon. Darth Vader's TIE? Lost in the warp, apparently. *shrug* That thing was kind of big...how does it just disappear?

Anyway, you'd think that the interchangeability would make the Micronauts concept popular today if they got relaunched.

I recall having the Baron Karza, Acroyear, Space Glider and Time Traveller Micronaut toys, and the shooty bits were very cool. While the terrain was nice, the highlight (for me) was the space ship, huge and modular. No idea what my parents did with it, or my other cool toys. *snif*

Never had the Rom toy, but I collected that comic, too. I think The Micronauts was a better story, though.

Just got back from it. I actually approved of Pym socking the guy in the beginning. The most infamous Pym thing in comics was when Hank accidentally hit Jan. And then hit her on purpose in the Ultimate comics where he was a total douche. Since she wasn't in this movie, I felt it appropriate when he hit someone for mentioning her. Almost like another Easter egg.

And the end credit scene was appropriate, but felt VERY expected. Some of the end credit scenes, like Apocalypse in DoFP made me cheer with surprise and happiness. This end scene was appreciated, but was no surprise at all.

Not the best Marvel movie (think that title belongs to GotG now), but still a lot of fun. I quite enjoyed myself, had some good laughs, and saw an excellent story unfold.

 Alpharius wrote:
I've heard that 'someone' is visible in the corner of the screen when Scott goes into the QUANTUM ZONE (The Microverse?) - I've heard it was:

1) The original Wasp, Janet! (Seems most likely!)

I think that is who it was because it makes the most sense, both for the movie and future sequels.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Just got back from it. I actually approved of Pym socking the guy in the beginning. The most infamous Pym thing in comics was when Hank accidentally hit Jan. And then hit her on purpose in the Ultimate comics where he was a total douche. Since she wasn't in this movie, I felt it appropriate when he hit someone for mentioning her. Almost like another Easter egg.

And the end credit scene was appropriate, but felt VERY expected. Some of the end credit scenes, like Apocalypse in DoFP made me cheer with surprise and happiness. This end scene was appreciated, but was no surprise at all.

You either:

1) didn't stay until the very end and therefore missed the 2nd end credit scene or
2) you really can tell the future or
3) you're a liar!

I'd like to think if my wife died heroically saving a bunch of people and some dick insinuated that I lost her because "I couldn't protect her" I'd knock the crap out of him as well.

I liked it! I thought the scene with Falcon was a bit forced and silly. Otherwise pretty good, if you don't think about the science or the established rules too much.

"Don't worry, he can't see me."

"I CAN SEE YOU!"

Was a high point, I think. As was the ant-dog.

I went and saw it yesterday eve. Better than I expected, I anticipated little else than a generic stale popcorn movie.

Hang on, there was a second post-credits scene? Aw, damn!

If was certainly acgood film, I can't really fault any of it (except perhaps that the second act could have done with another 10 minutes or so), and while we've been somewhat spoiled by a succession of absolutely amazing Marvel movies (TWS, GotG, AoU) that Ant-Man doesn't hold a candle to, it's still as good as anything from Phase 1, and better than some.

The Spidey reference at the end was kind of cool, but annoyed me a little as it marked the first on-screen acknowledgement that Amazing Spiderman is over, and I very much doubt Marvel's Spidey will be as good. That's less a criticism of the film, though, just a personal bugbear.

The Falcon scene was great, especially his line at the end.

Honestly, there's not really been a Marvel Studios film that hasn't performed well(or well enough to make it's budget back at least). I think Spidey will be excellent in Marvel's hands. Sony appear to have made a horrible mess after Spider-Man 3 and the "Amazing" Spider-Man 1&2.

Green Goblin was only really any good when they had Willem Dafoe portraying him. Harry Osborne's Goblin (in both Raimi's and ASM 2) sucked massively.

Oh, I'm sure Marvel's will be good, I just love the Amazing Spiderman films so much and would happily trade MCU-spidey for a conclusion to the ASM trilogy.

I do seem to be in a minority in liking them that much, although I'm not sure why they got such a bad reception.

Can't say the new guy they've cast as Parker fills me with confidence, though.

In fairness though, everyone's a bit sceptical when it comes to new blood in the comic-film adaptations. Heath Ledger is a fantastic example of that. Who'd have thought a guy who played a gay cowboy could become the Joker?

 Paradigm wrote:
... it marked the first on-screen acknowledgement that Amazing Spiderman is over, and I very much doubt Marvel's Spidey will be as good.

You might be the only person I've ever encountered who holds that opinion.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
In fairness though, everyone's a bit sceptical when it comes to new blood in the comic-film adaptations. Heath Ledger is a fantastic example of that. Who'd have thought a guy who played a gay cowboy could become the Joker?

I'm one of those that didn't like the ledger joker. I prefer the Nicholson/Romero style. But I know I'm in the minority on that.


GG

 generalgrog wrote:
I'm one of those that didn't like the ledger joker.

Someone disliking a thing doesn't really change whether a performance was good or not, it just deals with whether one liked or disliked it.

Doesn't Marvel only have the rights to use Spidey in the Avengers films not solo pictures?

And isn't Sony rebooting Spidey yet again?

Keeping him in high school for a lot longer this time?

 Alpharius wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Just got back from it. I actually approved of Pym socking the guy in the beginning. The most infamous Pym thing in comics was when Hank accidentally hit Jan. And then hit her on purpose in the Ultimate comics where he was a total douche. Since she wasn't in this movie, I felt it appropriate when he hit someone for mentioning her. Almost like another Easter egg.

And the end credit scene was appropriate, but felt VERY expected. Some of the end credit scenes, like Apocalypse in DoFP made me cheer with surprise and happiness. This end scene was appreciated, but was no surprise at all.

You either:

1) didn't stay until the very end and therefore missed the 2nd end credit scene or
2) you really can tell the future or
3) you're a liar!

There were two? gak.

I saw the one featuring Hank and his daughter. That one was obvious.

 Alpharius wrote:
Doesn't Marvel only have the rights to use Spidey in the Avengers films not solo pictures?

And isn't Sony rebooting Spidey yet again?

Keeping him in high school for a lot longer this time?

They are both the same. Marvel can use him in MCU films, and the solo Spidey films (same actor/version) will still be a part of the MCU, but funded/produced by Sony (although I think Marvel still have the final say on creative matters). To all intents and purposes as far the viewer is concerned, Spiderman is now 100% an MCU character.

And yeah, he's much younger, I believe 15 has been cited as his age in Civil War.

That is...great news!

Thanks for the clarification on the rights situation!

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
I'd like to think if my wife died heroically saving a bunch of people and some dick insinuated that I lost her because "I couldn't protect her" I'd knock the crap out of him as well.

I liked it! I thought the scene with Falcon was a bit forced and silly. Otherwise pretty good, if you don't think about the science or the established rules too much.

I love that he looked to Stark, and Stark's just "Hey, you said it." like hell yeah he'd have done to you too.

Yeah, me too. I really like that actor. Although his Stark seems exactly the same as his Mad Men character.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
In fairness though, everyone's a bit sceptical when it comes to new blood in the comic-film adaptations. Heath Ledger is a fantastic example of that. Who'd have thought a guy who played a gay cowboy could become the Joker?

Ahem.

Robert Downey, Jr., anyone?

Do we not remember the skepticism when he was cast as Tony Stark for Iron Man (1)? Wasn't RDJ a washed-up B-lister? And more known for his personal struggles than anything else? At the time, I was thinking RDJ would be fine for the "demon in a bottle" storyline, but I wasn't sure about the rest.

Now, of course, everybody loves RDJ and it's hard to see anyone else as Tony, but his initial casting was very skeptical.

I think it's fairly safe to say that there's a lot of skepticism for ANY new actor playing a character.

Case in point, look at the nerd rage going on over Batfleck, and even Leto as Joker, etc.

Actually, when I first heard the announcement for Ant-Man, I was skeptical of the whole idea because he's not well known outside of comic shops, and while I didn't doubt Paul Rudd would make a good actor, I can't recall him ever really doing many "action" movies.

Marvel obviously knows what they're doing. Consider the last "new" lead, Chris Pratt. From his work on Parks & Rec, would anybody have seen him in a Marvel superhero movie? Much less the awesome blockbuster that Guardians turned out to be?

As for Ben, he was Daredevil. And before that, he saved the world in Dogma. So he should be OK as Batman - the real question is how Warner does with the rest of the heroes they're throwing in, whether the result is more Fantastic Four bomb than Avengers blockbuster.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Can you show them bloody and dying on screen?

I have no recollection of any blood shed in a sw movie.

There was blood once. When Obi-wan cut off the guys arm in the Cantina in New Hope. The arm is laying on the floor with some blood.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

Case in point, look at the nerd rage going on over Batfleck, and even Leto as Joker, etc.

People still hate the Leto Joker design. (But I think that's more the character design than the actor.)

Much of the internet did think that Batfleck was a ridiculous concept until they were told, "we're basing him off of Dark Knight Returns" which started to sway people. Now that the costume / trailer is shown, the majority are behind Batfleck.

People still hate the Joker though.

 Ahtman wrote:

 generalgrog wrote:
I'm one of those that didn't like the ledger joker.

Someone disliking a thing doesn't really change whether a performance was good or not, it just deals with whether one liked or disliked it.

I agree...there was nothing wrong with his acting. per se..

I was just pointing out I didn't like Ledger's/Nolan's interpretation of "The Joker".


They turned him to some gritty psychotic dude, which isn't a problem.

I just prefer the campy, caricature that previous jokers gave us. Nicholson, was the perfect balance of psycho, gangster and campyness. IMO.


GG


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 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
In fairness though, everyone's a bit sceptical when it comes to new blood in the comic-film adaptations. Heath Ledger is a fantastic example of that. Who'd have thought a guy who played a gay cowboy could become the Joker?

Ahem.

Robert Downey, Jr., anyone?

Do we not remember the skepticism when he was cast as Tony Stark for Iron Man (1)? Wasn't RDJ a washed-up B-lister? And more known for his personal struggles than anything else? At the time, I was thinking RDJ would be fine for the "demon in a bottle" storyline, but I wasn't sure about the rest.

Now, of course, everybody loves RDJ and it's hard to see anyone else as Tony, but his initial casting was very skeptical.

I Thought he was great in the first Iron man. It felt like he was a perfect fit. But as time goes on, it seems like he has lost some of that "desperation" that showed up in the first film. He seems too comfortable now, as Iron Man. Kind of like an old prize fighter, where they have lost the "eye of the tiger".

GG

 generalgrog wrote:

I Thought he was great in the first Iron man. It felt like he was a perfect fit. But as time goes on, it seems like he has lost some of that "desperation" that showed up in the first film. He seems too comfortable now, as Iron Man. Kind of like an old prize fighter, where they have lost the "eye of the tiger".

GG

It's probably kinda hard to maintain that "eye of the tiger" when you're a billionaire playboy philanthropist

I think the second teaser in the Ant-Man film told us a lot about the sides in Cap 3: Civil War. I am only passingly familiar with the source material, so I found that little bit interesting.

Also, perhaps the best Stan Lee cameo yet. I hope he is around to do many, many more. He is something like 94 or 95 now!