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I'm in the no tattoo club, but I mean, a nice classy face tattoo goes a long way towards leaving an impression on everyone. Not necessarily an aquila, but perhaps a servo skull on the side of the head or something. Ooh, what about getting one of those full head tattoos that makes YOUR skull look like a servoskull? You could even do some of those things where they embed studs and stuff subdermally in places appropriate for a servoskull.

Also, if you go with this, we need pics.

on a side note, this is my aquila



You will note, it looks nothing like a GW aquila. It is an homage, not a direct reference (alongside some other symbols, etc).

Best past part is that its alltogether so vague that even people familiar with GW, etc dont usually catch everything (if anything at all), and if theyre completely unfamiliar... well then I get to make gak up. Best was the one girl whonasked me what it meant and I told her how it represents how two-faced the US is and how even though they say justice is blind, it isnt etc etc etc. She was eating out of the palm of my hand and kept saying "oh my god, thats so deep". In retrospect I prolly coulda fethed her, bit I was having too much a good time fething with her instead

 BrookM wrote:
I guess it depends on the type of tattoo worn by a certain type of.. character in Japan.

Spoiler:

No, Tattoo has stigma in Japan, it is associated with Yakuza yes, but they don't differentiate if you have a tattoo lots of places will let you not in or you cannot become a member.

The eighth pointed star of chaos was my first Tattoo

Chaos omega: Love the aquila and the mando? skull, but why Captain Cutler?



Also, I didn't mean to be too harsh to Hotsauceman. I like the guy and enjoy a lot of his posts, but constant as the northern star he is not.

My friend just gave me another idea
"No Mercy, No Respite, No Forgiveness"
But you are all right, I should think about this.......

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
My friend just gave me another idea
"No Mercy, No Respite, No Forgiveness"
But you are all right, I should think about this.......

The way you are flip floping on what to get, is reason enough to not get one, wait until you are more mature or you are going to regret it.
The design i wanted on my arm was my choice for 10 years before i put in on me arm.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Chaos omega: Love the aquila and the mando? skull, but why Captain Cutler?

Haha, a couple reasons I wont go into, it was originally supposed to be something else but I changed it (for reasons). I will say that I do actually own one of those helmets though

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
wait until you are more mature or you are going to regret it..

To play devils advocate a little. I think tattoos are more for young people. They look better on young people, if you are going to get one I think it would be better to get one while you're young, and can make better use of it showing off and flirting. If you wait until you are more mature then it might not be worth it. After all the mature thing to do would be to save your money and put it in an investment plan (yawn).

Sure you might regret it when you are older, but by the time people hit 45 they probably regret most things they did when they were younger. You might also regret not getting a tattoo, and then get one at 45 to kickstart your midlife crisis with. Become the creepy old guy desperately trying to hook with college girls to recapture his lost youth...

 Smacks wrote:

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
wait until you are more mature or you are going to regret it..

To play devils advocate a little. I think tattoos are more for young people. They look better on young people, if you are going to get one I think it would be better to get one while you're young, and can make better use of it showing off and flirting. If you wait until you are more mature then it might not be worth it. After all the mature thing to do would be to save your money and put it in an investment plan (yawn).

Sure you might regret it when you are older, but by the time people hit 45 they probably regret most things they did when they were younger. You might also regret not getting a tattoo, and then get one at 45 to kickstart your midlife crisis with. Become the creepy old guy desperately trying to hook with college girls to recapture his lost youth...

Tattoos do have a purpose- they work well for military vets. One of my dad's friend's who's probably in his seventies now had a jaguar IIRC from when he served in Korea or Vietnam (can't remember which, probably Korea). Even with his wrinkly old man skin, it still looked good and could even growl when flexed. The only real problem with a non-garish tattoo is how your skin is going to age ~30 years down the line or more. Like the eagle that turned into a chicken.

 Smacks wrote:
It is easy to just call someone a troll when you don't agree with them.

You're being called a troll because you're being purposefully making insulting, inflammatory remarks... you know, like a troll.

But I'm not a troll.

Maybe not, but you're trolling.


So just knock off the bloviating, you aren't impressing anyone and you aren't as clever as you think you are.

I'm going to agree with the general consensus of the thread and suggest you hold off, while I'm personally okay with tattoos for the sake of ink and art, vs. tattoos having a personal meaning (sure all of mine having a meaning but never mind that) you are collaborating with an artist to create a permanent piece of art out of your body, that is not an endeavour to be taken on a whim. Really think through the details of what you want and how you want it. Should the aquila have the wings up like chaos's piece in more of a flare? What kinds of textures and details do you want? Really work it out in your mind's eye, sketch it or have a friend sketch it for you. Then set it aside for a month. If you come back to it in a month and you still think it's a good idea then you're good to roll.

I'd also like to reinforce that placement is absolutely vital. I really prevaricated about getting my large calf piece because it would be a highly visible piece of ink. So think about the work environments you're likely to be in, the jobs and careers you want. I work with a lot of ex-military, tin can sailors and the like, and you know what? For the most part they don't give a feth about my ink, but I also dress in most professional environments so that no one knows I even have tattoos. My boss at my wargaming job didn't know I had ink till about three months after I started, he was talking about tattoos, and I mentioned that I'd taken a nap getting my shoulder blade piece done and he was surprised that I had multiple pieces. As time goes on the stigma's going away in work settings, but it's still something you need to think about.

Pictured: Part of my calf piece.

Or... a Khorne symbol?

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
You're being called a troll because you're being purposefully making insulting, inflammatory remarks... you know, like a troll.

No, I'm being called a troll because I had the audacity to draw attention to the cliche' reasons people claim they got tattoos (To remember, to remind etc...) versus why people actually get tattoos, which is often (deep down) as a means to draw some attention to themselves, flirt, start conversations about themselves (their military career) etc... I don't think this makes them bad people, it's quite a normal human impulse, but there are lots of other ways to be interesting that don't involve permanently marking your body. And it is a far cry from the "cool" rebellious image they are trying to portray. In fact it raises a lot of interesting questions about body image, conformity and self esteem. You might say that is insulting, but then we know you have tattoos. I say it is true (for the majority of people) and just slices a bit too close to the nerve, which makes you uncomfortable.

I have collected some quotes from just this thread, which I think show that my "bloviating" as you put it, was actually spot on.

 djones520 wrote:
I got the USAF Symbol put onto my right shoulder. That way it'll be one of those things my kids and their kids can ask me about, and I can explain to them that it's there to remind me about the commitment I made to my nation for such a large part of my life.

Lots of deep sentiment here, but if we look past that, he is still ultimately saying that he got the tattoo so that people will ask about it, and he can talk about himself.

 Eilif wrote:
Far better to have people ask you to explain what you're tattoo is then have a tattoo with mixed messages ... but I think tattoos should have some intrinsic meaning more than a game. Search your family history and explore your deepest beliefs.

He acknowledges that part of having a tattoo is people asking you about it, and you getting to explain. Then we get back into the "meaning" thing, which is just an afterthought when the decision to get tattooed has already been made. This proves that the proposed meaning is inconsequential to the action.

 Stormwall wrote:
I have mine to remind me that the service changed my life, repaired me, and provided the gateway to an education.

Again, this is a deep sentiment, but I'm not sure what it really has to do with getting a tattoo. Doesn't seem like something you're likely to forget. And wouldn't something like supporting a serviceman's charity be a more productive gesture than just drawing on your arm?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Best was the one girl whonasked me what it meant and I told her how it represents ... etc etc etc. She was eating out of the palm of my hand and kept saying "oh my god, thats so deep". In retrospect I prolly coulda fethed her

Heh, this is almost word for word my mock conversation. Good for you chaos0xomega, this is a man who knows what tattoos are for and how to use them to almost get laid. I would not have been so easily impressed as 'that one girl', but then I'm probably not your type.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
So just knock off the bloviating, you aren't impressing anyone and you aren't as clever as you think you are.

No post would be complete without that mandatory insult would it? Few people are as clever as they think, it's something to do with cognitive bias. But even if I were half as cleaver as I think I am, I'd still be clever enough to spot the sad irony of trying to force the word 'bloviating' in where it doesn't apply. Who is really the one trying too hard to impress here? I didn't go permanently changing my skin to look different for other people.

There is no shame in wanting a bit of attention, or wanting to change yourself, but please don't insult my allegedly mediocre intelligence by denying it.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

 Smacks wrote:
It is easy to just call someone a troll when you don't agree with them.

You're being called a troll because you're being purposefully making insulting, inflammatory remarks... you know, like a troll.

But I'm not a troll.

Maybe not, but you're trolling.


So just knock off the bloviating, you aren't impressing anyone and you aren't as clever as you think you are.

But guys, look at how trendy he is. He doesn't have tattoos and thinks they're lame, therefore making him the superiorest hipster!


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 Smacks wrote:

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
You're being called a troll because you're being purposefully making insulting, inflammatory remarks... you know, like a troll.

No, I'm being called a troll because I had the audacity to draw attention to the cliche' reasons people claim they got tattoos (To remember, to remind etc...) versus why people actually get tattoos, which is often (deep down) as a means to draw some attention to themselves, flirt, start conversations about themselves (their military career) etc... I don't think this is an especially bad thing, it's quite a normal human impulse, but there are lots of other ways to be interesting that don't involve permanently marking your body. And it is a far cry from the "cool" rebellious image they are trying to portray. In fact it raises a lot of interesting questions about body image, conformity and self esteem. You might say that is insulting, but then we know you have tattoos. I say it is true (for the majority of people) and just slices a bit too close to the nerve, which makes you uncomfortable.

I have collected some quotes from just this thread, which I think show that my "bloviating" as you put it, was actually spot on.

 djones520 wrote:
I got the USAF Symbol put onto my right shoulder. That way it'll be one of those things my kids and their kids can ask me about, and I can explain to them that it's there to remind me about the commitment I made to my nation for such a large part of my life.

Lots of deep sentiment here, but if we look past that, he is still ultimately saying that he got the tattoo so that people will ask about it, and he can talk about himself.

 Eilif wrote:
Far better to have people ask you to explain what you're tattoo is then have a tattoo with mixed messages ... but I think tattoos should have some intrinsic meaning more than a game. Search your family history and explore your deepest beliefs.

He acknowledges that part of having a tattoo is people asking you about it, and you getting to explain. Then we get back into the "meaning" thing, which is just an afterthought when the decision to get tattooed has already been made. This proves that the proposed meaning is inconsequential to the action.

 Stormwall wrote:
I have mine to remind me that the service changed my life, repaired me, and provided the gateway to an education.

Again, this is a deep sentiment, but I'm not sure what it really has to do getting a tattoo. Doesn't seem like something you're likely to forget. And wouldn't something like supporting a serviceman's charity be a more productive gesture than just drawing on your arm?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Best was the one girl whonasked me what it meant and I told her how it represents ... etc etc etc. She was eating out of the palm of my hand and kept saying "oh my god, thats so deep". In retrospect I prolly coulda fethed her

Heh, this is almost word for word my mock conversation. Good for you chaos0xomega, this is a man who knows what tattoos are for and how to use them to almost get laid. I would not have been so easily impressed as 'that one girl', but then I'm probably not your type.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
So just knock off the bloviating, you aren't impressing anyone and you aren't as clever as you think you are.

No post would be complete without that mandatory insult would it? Few people are as clever as they think, it's something to do with cognitive bias. But even if I were half as cleaver as I think I am, I'd still be clever enough to spot the sad irony of trying to force the word 'bloviating' in where it doesn't apply. Who is really the one trying too hard to impress here? I didn't go permanently changing my skin to look different for other people.

There is no shame in wanting a bit of attention, or wanting to change yourself, but please don't insult my allegedly mediocre intelligence by denying it.

You're right, 4 people's post on Dakka = mounds of evidence. All bow down before Smacks obvious superiority, he is clearly the smartestest of all the hipsters!

Smacks, the one flaw with your theory (as it applies to me) is that most people never see my tattoos, because the only time you would see them is if I was wearing shorts, which I wear maybe 3 times a year (when I go to the beach), if Im lucky. I didnt get them to get girls (in fact Ive slept with exactly zero girls since getting them), I got them because I like the idea of tattoos and the artist managed to capture my ideas well enough in artwork that I felt comfortable permanently marking myself with them. In fact a very good friend of mine didnt even realize I had tattoos until it came up in conversation while we were discussing some work he wanted to get done, lol. The fact that I CAN use them to attract womenfolk (or screw with their heads) is really just icing on the cake to me lol

 Jehan-reznor wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I guess it depends on the type of tattoo worn by a certain type of.. character in Japan.

Spoiler:

No, Tattoo has stigma in Japan, it is associated with Yakuza yes, but they don't differentiate if you have a tattoo lots of places will let you not in or you cannot become a member.

It used to be the same way in the Soviet Union. The only people with tattoos were mafia and criminals.
Since the 90s, tattoos have become more popular, but there is still a lot of negative stigma attached to them.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
The eighth pointed star of chaos was my first Tattoo

Funnily enough, eight pointed stars are also used as far-right symbols.




I don't think people should be getting a tattoo. There is a significant risk you will regret it later, and tattoos are hard to remove. Better not take the risk imo.
Also, what is 'bloviating'?

 jreilly89 wrote:
But guys, look at how trendy he is. He doesn't have tattoos and thinks they're lame, therefore making him the superiorest hipster!

How are those intellectual conversational skills coming along?

You're right, 4 people's post on Dakka = mounds of evidence. All bow down before Smacks obvious superiority, he is clearly the smartestest of all the hipsters!

I did not say 4 posts constituted "mounds of evidence", why don't you try refuting something that I did say, if that isn't too difficult for you? The posts I picked were nearby "examples", never meant to be statistical evidence. You deliberately trying to conflate the two just makes you look dishonest, desperate, and your position look weaker. I'm going to term it argumentum ad butthurt.

The fact I was able to find examples so readily, just shows how common they are. I'm sure if I had the time and resources to conduct a proper study, I could no doubt find thousands of examples, but I don't need to do that. Finding examples from right under your nose makes my point well enough for this conversation. You trying to limp off with the goal posts makes it even better.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Smacks, the one flaw with your theory (as it applies to me) is that most people never see my tattoos, because the only time you would see them is if I was wearing shorts, which I wear maybe 3 times a year (when I go to the beach), if Im lucky. I didnt get them to get girls (in fact Ive slept with exactly zero girls since getting them), I got them because I like the idea of tattoos and the artist managed to capture my ideas well enough in artwork that I felt comfortable permanently marking myself with them. In fact a very good friend of mine didnt even realize I had tattoos until it came up in conversation while we were discussing some work he wanted to get done, lol. The fact that I CAN use them to attract womenfolk (or screw with their heads) is really just icing on the cake to me lol

You aren't really the focus of my scorn anyway, because you don't seem to be under any illusion that your tattoo has some pretentious "deep" meaning for being there. You like it, it attracts girls, that is honest enough. The fact that you were also sensible enough to put it where you can cover it for work etc, is also unsurprising. I don't think that is a flaw in my idea. Me saying that tattoos are primarily to look at, is a no brainer. And suggesting that they are for other people to look at (not just for yourself) does not have to mean all people all the time. Even if it were only your wife that sees it, it is still an outward statement for other people on some level. That doesn't mean it can't also be for yourself, I expect it is a mixture.

I'd get it if I really wanted it. Accusations of racism be damned.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
Also, what is 'bloviating'?

Sirlin gives a great example of it in this article, which is a good read. I could probably be more concise in my writing sometimes, and use fewer adverbs, but bloviation is not something I do. I think Scooty was just using it to cash-in on a high-sounding word, hence the irony.

 Smacks wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
Also, what is 'bloviating'?

Sirlin gives a great example of it in this article, which is a good read. I could probably be more concise in my writing sometimes, and use a fewer adverbs, but bloviation is not something I do. I think Scooty was just using it to cash-in on a high-sounding word, hence the irony.

I think one could make a compelling argument that's exactly what you've done in this thread.

 stanman wrote:
Get a small pair of dice tattooed above your crack, nothing turns the ladies on like a male version of a tramp stamp.


Or get something practical like I did, got a tape measure tattooed on the side of my penis that way anytime I need something accurately measured within three inches I can always just pull out my junk. On a cold day it doubles as a melee range key for warmachine.

I'm also considering some additional body modification to implant a pair of googley eyes over my balls so I can be a hit at all the parties.

My fave post of the tread. You sir are one funny melon-fether.

After chaosomegas post i think i had the stupids, i looked at the picture and though "why would you get a tatt that continued from one leg onto your forearm and then onto your other leg"

Sauceman I'd wait, at least a year before getting a tat and that's after deciding what to get. Oh and don't get that "no respite"thing thats just corny as crap. I carved my own tat when i was 15ish , it's the number one reason i don't have a real tat now, explaining what it meant was ridiculous.....and bloody well still is.

 cincydooley wrote:
I think one could make a compelling argument that's exactly what you've done in this thread.

And yet no one has...

Regardless, critiquing my command of English would be off topic, and an attack on me, rather than my opinion. Anyone could chime in any time and try to explain why tattoos are not a form of vanity, but all I'm seeing here is deflection, and thinly veiled insults: "you are small minded", "you are not as clever as you think", "A compelling case could be made (but I'm not actually making it)". There is no substance there. Your post is 16 words which end up saying nothing at all. And you call me verbose...

 Smacks wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:
But guys, look at how trendy he is. He doesn't have tattoos and thinks they're lame, therefore making him the superiorest hipster!

How are those intellectual conversational skills coming along?

You're right, 4 people's post on Dakka = mounds of evidence. All bow down before Smacks obvious superiority, he is clearly the smartestest of all the hipsters!

I did not say 4 posts constituted "mounds of evidence", why don't you try refuting something that I did say, if that isn't too difficult for you? The posts I picked were nearby "examples", never meant to be statistical evidence. You deliberately trying to conflate the two just makes you look dishonest, desperate, and your position look weaker. I'm going to term it argumentum ad butthurt.

The fact I was able to find examples so readily, just shows how common they are. I'm sure if I had the time and resources to conduct a proper study, I could no doubt find thousands of examples, but I don't need to do that. Finding examples from right under your nose makes my point well enough for this conversation. You trying to limp off with the goal posts makes it even better.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Smacks, the one flaw with your theory (as it applies to me) is that most people never see my tattoos, because the only time you would see them is if I was wearing shorts, which I wear maybe 3 times a year (when I go to the beach), if Im lucky. I didnt get them to get girls (in fact Ive slept with exactly zero girls since getting them), I got them because I like the idea of tattoos and the artist managed to capture my ideas well enough in artwork that I felt comfortable permanently marking myself with them. In fact a very good friend of mine didnt even realize I had tattoos until it came up in conversation while we were discussing some work he wanted to get done, lol. The fact that I CAN use them to attract womenfolk (or screw with their heads) is really just icing on the cake to me lol

You aren't really the focus of my scorn anyway, because you don't seem to be under any illusion that your tattoo has some pretentious "deep" meaning for being there. You like it, it attracts girls, that is honest enough. The fact that you were also sensible enough to put it where you can cover it for work etc, is also unsurprising. I don't think that is a flaw in my idea. Me saying that tattoos are primarily to look at, is a no brainer. And suggesting that they are for other people to look at (not just for yourself) does not have to mean all people all the time. Even if it were only your wife that sees it, it is still an outward statement for other people on some level. That doesn't mean it can't also be for yourself, I expect it is a mixture.

Why? There's literally no point in argiung with you, as it's pretty obvious you've made up your mind about tattoos and have resorted to trolling. Rather than bother, I'll take a page from your book and resort to trolling as well.


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 Smacks wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
I think one could make a compelling argument that's exactly what you've done in this thread.

And yet no one has...

Regardless, critiquing my command of English would be off topic, and an attack on me, rather than my opinion. Anyone could chime in any time and try to explain why tattoos are not a form of vanity, but all I'm seeing here is deflection, and thinly veiled insults: "you are small minded", "you are not as clever as you think", "A compelling case could be made (but I'm not actually making it)". There is no substance there. Your post is 16 words which end up saying nothing at all. And you call me verbose...

And the award for trying to cash in on high-sounding words goes to....

Smacks maybe you should stop picking fights man, you make good posts when your not attacking people (or retaliating) . Thats 3 people who your planning to have a random argument with, surely one at a time is enough.

Oh and sauceman if you get the aquila and you go to gaol , least you know the aryan brotherhood will take you on (and probably a big bla...brother named sammy.)

 Smacks wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
I think one could make a compelling argument that's exactly what you've done in this thread.

And yet no one has...

Regardless, critiquing my command of English would be off topic, and an attack on me, rather than my opinion. Anyone could chime in any time and try to explain why tattoos are not a form of vanity, but all I'm seeing here is deflection, and thinly veiled insults: "you are small minded", "you are not as clever as you think", "A compelling case could be made (but I'm not actually making it)". There is no substance there. Your post is 16 words which end up saying nothing at all. And you call me verbose...

A form of vanity? like designer clothes, brand goods, or a sports car? I wonder how old you are? Tattoo's in the west have become a fashion item, when i was young it was still associated with criminals, biker gangs, rock musicians, so why have i one because, it is going against conformity and because i like it.

And i really don't care if other people don't like it, it is their problem not mine.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:

 Smacks wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
I think one could make a compelling argument that's exactly what you've done in this thread.

And yet no one has...

Regardless, critiquing my command of English would be off topic, and an attack on me, rather than my opinion. Anyone could chime in any time and try to explain why tattoos are not a form of vanity, but all I'm seeing here is deflection, and thinly veiled insults: "you are small minded", "you are not as clever as you think", "A compelling case could be made (but I'm not actually making it)". There is no substance there. Your post is 16 words which end up saying nothing at all. And you call me verbose...

A form of vanity? like designer clothes, brand goods, or a sports car? I wonder how old you are? Tattoo's in the west have become a fashion item, when i was young it was still associated with criminals, biker gangs, rock musicians, so why have i one because, it is going against conformity and because i like it.

And i really don't care if other people don't like it, it is their problem not mine.

But, you CAN'T have your own opinion, Smacks said so!

I'm a classically trained oil painter and studied art in Italy and I think of tattoos as art. Turning your skin into a canvas for art is pretty awesome and don't worry about what anyone else says. Though, depending on what kind of employment you want you should make sure it's not in a place that would show it off. My brother and sister in law have tattoos that nobody will see because for them they're deeply personal and only for each other. (A cancellation of the vanity theory.) People get tattoos for various reasons and to launch blanket statements of vanity is ignorant at best.

If you really needa get one just go with the inquisition symbol. I dont think it will be mistaken for anything tooooo offensive unless you are a heretic already. but really let it go and think on it later. or just get it over and done with and deal with the consequences

 Smacks wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
I think one could make a compelling argument that's exactly what you've done in this thread.

And yet no one has...

Regardless, critiquing my command of English would be off topic, and an attack on me, rather than my opinion. Anyone could chime in any time and try to explain why tattoos are not a form of vanity, but all I'm seeing here is deflection, and thinly veiled insults: "you are small minded", "you are not as clever as you think", "A compelling case could be made (but I'm not actually making it)". There is no substance there. Your post is 16 words which end up saying nothing at all. And you call me verbose...

A tattoo can be a symbol. Be it something special to them, to identify one's self (the good military vet example or the more sinister gang iconography), can be cultural or religious, and indeed sometimes just I think that it looks cool.

Now is it one of the most risky decisions? Indeed. They are a pain to remove and many will grow to regret them especially as the body begins to deteroiorate. I would agree against the aquila tattoo partially due to the possibility of equating it to nazis but also due to the risk of one regretting it, particularly from a shop that discounts and an individual that changes their opinion and is planning to lose weight.

I shall admit that some do it for attention but so do others do it for expression. Personally I have none but I've desired to have a dragon tattoo on my back. The reason is the pathetic because I think they are cool which is an opinion I sincerely doubt will ever change at this point and as somebody that has geeked over them since toddlerhood. It isn't for attention. I specifically want it on my back for that. The only things holding me back is that I want to become a bit more fit before getting one and its importance being low on my list of things to care about.

 jreilly89 wrote:

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

 Smacks wrote:
It is easy to just call someone a troll when you don't agree with them.

You're being called a troll because you're being purposefully making insulting, inflammatory remarks... you know, like a troll.

But I'm not a troll.

Maybe not, but you're trolling.


So just knock off the bloviating, you aren't impressing anyone and you aren't as clever as you think you are.

But guys, look at how trendy he is. He doesn't have tattoos and thinks they're lame, therefore making him the superiorest hipster!


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 Smacks wrote:

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
You're being called a troll because you're being purposefully making insulting, inflammatory remarks... you know, like a troll.

No, I'm being called a troll because I had the audacity to draw attention to the cliche' reasons people claim they got tattoos (To remember, to remind etc...) versus why people actually get tattoos, which is often (deep down) as a means to draw some attention to themselves, flirt, start conversations about themselves (their military career) etc... I don't think this is an especially bad thing, it's quite a normal human impulse, but there are lots of other ways to be interesting that don't involve permanently marking your body. And it is a far cry from the "cool" rebellious image they are trying to portray. In fact it raises a lot of interesting questions about body image, conformity and self esteem. You might say that is insulting, but then we know you have tattoos. I say it is true (for the majority of people) and just slices a bit too close to the nerve, which makes you uncomfortable.

I have collected some quotes from just this thread, which I think show that my "bloviating" as you put it, was actually spot on.

 djones520 wrote:
I got the USAF Symbol put onto my right shoulder. That way it'll be one of those things my kids and their kids can ask me about, and I can explain to them that it's there to remind me about the commitment I made to my nation for such a large part of my life.

Lots of deep sentiment here, but if we look past that, he is still ultimately saying that he got the tattoo so that people will ask about it, and he can talk about himself.

 Eilif wrote:
Far better to have people ask you to explain what you're tattoo is then have a tattoo with mixed messages ... but I think tattoos should have some intrinsic meaning more than a game. Search your family history and explore your deepest beliefs.

He acknowledges that part of having a tattoo is people asking you about it, and you getting to explain. Then we get back into the "meaning" thing, which is just an afterthought when the decision to get tattooed has already been made. This proves that the proposed meaning is inconsequential to the action.

 Stormwall wrote:
I have mine to remind me that the service changed my life, repaired me, and provided the gateway to an education.

Again, this is a deep sentiment, but I'm not sure what it really has to do getting a tattoo. Doesn't seem like something you're likely to forget. And wouldn't something like supporting a serviceman's charity be a more productive gesture than just drawing on your arm?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Best was the one girl whonasked me what it meant and I told her how it represents ... etc etc etc. She was eating out of the palm of my hand and kept saying "oh my god, thats so deep". In retrospect I prolly coulda fethed her

Heh, this is almost word for word my mock conversation. Good for you chaos0xomega, this is a man who knows what tattoos are for and how to use them to almost get laid. I would not have been so easily impressed as 'that one girl', but then I'm probably not your type.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
So just knock off the bloviating, you aren't impressing anyone and you aren't as clever as you think you are.

No post would be complete without that mandatory insult would it? Few people are as clever as they think, it's something to do with cognitive bias. But even if I were half as cleaver as I think I am, I'd still be clever enough to spot the sad irony of trying to force the word 'bloviating' in where it doesn't apply. Who is really the one trying too hard to impress here? I didn't go permanently changing my skin to look different for other people.

There is no shame in wanting a bit of attention, or wanting to change yourself, but please don't insult my allegedly mediocre intelligence by denying it.

You're right, 4 people's post on Dakka = mounds of evidence. All bow down before Smacks obvious superiority, he is clearly the smartestest of all the hipsters!

I am so mad I am shaking. I did it for NO attention. I had to learn to walk, jog, and then run again you little snob. It confounds me to my core that you think it acceptable to randomly pick apart four people like a total ass. Who are you to judge a personal life? As for charity, I already work with the VFW, local Wounded Warrior cook outs (not like the scammy national Wounded Warrior,) and the local American Legion. You do the brits a disservice! I practically destroyed my hip in service. My tattoo is for myself and my platoon. It is tastefully hidden. I NEVER reveal it. Ever! I see it only at night when I lie down to sleep! I am going back to college so I may be a PT and fix other veterans, in the vain 20% oddball chance that the service (Natty Guard,) will take me back as an officer candiate with my 8 year degree I am so furiously working on. If that fails I already have connections so I can become a State Trooper in Virginia. I wish to help and serve people. It was the reason I enlisted. It was to do good. That tattoo is a personal reminder that each day when I wake up in pain like some old fething man due to hip and knee pain, to carry on with my life for myself and for my family. Because if I don't my girlfriend will have a much harder time getting her citizenship (ie: income wise. She is Swede, not hispanic before you even attempt to profile me.) So there. That is as good of an argument for a piece of art on you as I can think of. Furthermore, I commented in good faith to help a Dalkanaut decide if this was a wise choice. I would tell him to hold off.

You are a troll wanting a rise. Well you got one, I hope I don't get fething baned for this. Blocked for sure. Go pick fights and find other pawns you malcontent angsty I apologize in advance but, I feel like this was a random attack and it is abad day for me as I got in wreck on the way to school today. Sorry to clog the thread with personal stuff but, obviously a tattoo is very personal if it has meaning. Jesus. I can't believe some people are so angsty and cynical on a website for toy soldiers. (Something the service also gave me a fond love for.) Last words on it. I got it the day I EAS'd to celebrate, and I also got it because I raised my right hand to serve just as all the other amazing veterans on this forum did.


Edit: Came across to strongly but, I still think this point stands. Mods do what you wish, though I do personally love this website. Also removed more persinal tidbits.