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Not Online!!! wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
God i fear that if the 3rd rumored dex is indeed r&h / lost and the damned / traitor guard.

A horde army with those prices.


Big oooooffffffff

They'll probably be on par with Genestealer Cults; horde army with 'new model prices'.


Yay, oh wait not yay.
Screw GW in this case:



I'll wait for anvil to finish their renegade line which allready looks better and is shaping up to look better then the new traitor guards.
AND CHEAPER


No one should buy GW guard over anvil anyway. I cringe at cadian models when you could have so much higher quality minis for the same price.

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SeanDrake wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 stonehorse wrote:
A more cynical view is that this hike comes a few weeks after the release of Apocalypse... which will no doubt have players wanting to increase their collection.

A sneaky way to increase their profits.

If they just wanted to increase their profits, they would release kits they've had sitting on the backburner.


Not really new kits have upfront costs and other oppertunity costs baked in that mean GW will make more money per sale on 5,10,15 or even 20 year old kits that paid off there moulds before most of the current player base was born/old enough to play. The old kits are at this stage all profit outside the couple of pence worth of plastic and the cardboard box in fact technically the box is probably worth more than the sprue.

And increased prices on old kits that are floating around on the secondary market result in very little profit while new kits that people don't own or can't easily convert/proxy can offset their investment costs far better.
   
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 Kirasu wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
God i fear that if the 3rd rumored dex is indeed r&h / lost and the damned / traitor guard.

A horde army with those prices.


Big oooooffffffff

They'll probably be on par with Genestealer Cults; horde army with 'new model prices'.


Yay, oh wait not yay.
Screw GW in this case:



I'll wait for anvil to finish their renegade line which allready looks better and is shaping up to look better then the new traitor guards.
AND CHEAPER


No one should buy GW guard over anvil anyway. I cringe at cadian models when you could have so much higher quality minis for the same price.


There are now a really large amount of guard proxies to suit pretty much any personal taste from gw style ww1 to morden tacticool and everything inbetween from dozens of companies all of which are pretty high quality. There is no excuse for any sales of catachens at all but to be fair there never was but I guess someone somewhere is buying them.

Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis 
   
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I'm amused that at this point, you can buy long OOP IG models off ebay for roughly the same price as new plastics. I suppose in the current meta which favors pure rifle squads, the plastics are convenient, but still.

Oh, and steel legion metal squads are still $35. Pity about the grenade launcher and missile launcher though.
   
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I'm glad that GW is raising their prices. They could easily crush a huge swath of other businesses in the industry by utilizing their scale to sell their sprues for prices similar to historical kits and setting high minimum unit sizes for their main games.
It would be dirt cheap to start in on their skirmish games, people would buy kits just for the conversion bits, and you could keep the price to get a whole army slightly higher than it is today, but with double the number of models on the table or something.
Basically they could take the Amazon approach and compete in price and service nuking the competition from orbit.
When GW acts like their variable costs to produce plastic sprues is somehow similar to the price of metal or resin models, it creates a ton of breathing room for businesses whose creative vision I find much more compelling than GW's.
Even their last couple of good years with popular releases and some community engagement has put a lot of pressure on other players in the industry.
   
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 Gallahad wrote:
I'm glad that GW is raising their prices. They could easily crush a huge swath of other businesses in the industry by utilizing their scale to sell their sprues for prices similar to historical kits and setting high minimum unit sizes for their main games.
It would be dirt cheap to start in on their skirmish games, people would buy kits just for the conversion bits, and you could keep the price to get a whole army slightly higher than it is today, but with double the number of models on the table or something.
Basically they could take the Amazon approach and compete in price and service nuking the competition from orbit.
When GW acts like their variable costs to produce plastic sprues is somehow similar to the price of metal or resin models, it creates a ton of breathing room for businesses whose creative vision I find much more compelling than GW's.
Even their last couple of good years with popular releases and some community engagement has put a lot of pressure on other players in the industry.


What in the world are you talking about? No one is buying Space Marines to play Infinity or Malifaux. People who want skirmish games with good rules instead of rushed games that are basically glorifies sales pitches aren't moving to GW games if they somehow reduced prices.

The Amazon model doesn't make any sense because GW isn't selling the same product like multiple stores on Amazon do.

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 Kirasu wrote:
 Gallahad wrote:
I'm glad that GW is raising their prices. They could easily crush a huge swath of other businesses in the industry by utilizing their scale to sell their sprues for prices similar to historical kits and setting high minimum unit sizes for their main games.
It would be dirt cheap to start in on their skirmish games, people would buy kits just for the conversion bits, and you could keep the price to get a whole army slightly higher than it is today, but with double the number of models on the table or something.
Basically they could take the Amazon approach and compete in price and service nuking the competition from orbit.
When GW acts like their variable costs to produce plastic sprues is somehow similar to the price of metal or resin models, it creates a ton of breathing room for businesses whose creative vision I find much more compelling than GW's.
Even their last couple of good years with popular releases and some community engagement has put a lot of pressure on other players in the industry.


What in the world are you talking about? No one is buying Space Marines to play Infinity or Malifaux. People who want skirmish games with good rules instead of rushed games that are basically glorifies sales pitches aren't moving to GW games if they somehow reduced prices.

The Amazon model doesn't make any sense because GW isn't selling the same product like multiple stores on Amazon do.

I'm suggesting that people evaluate games along several different vectors, including price, aesthetics, ease of finding opponents, quality of rules, and price.
GW has been dominant in the industry for decades despite rules that are, as you say, just glorified sales pitches. Malifaux and Infinity only exist because GW allowed them to compete on both rules quality and price. I don't think it is coincidence that the current recognizable alternative games in the industry all grew leaps and bounds while GW was busy trying to saw off their own legs.

GW isn't selling the exact same product, but they are certainly selling a substitute. Basic Econ says when the relative price rises, people buy more substitutes. If Malifaux and Infinity got much more expensive to play relative to Kill Team or Necromunda or Bloodbowl, etc. I guarantee that fewer people would be playing them. Which makes them less attractive on the ease of finding an opponent vector which makes fewer people play them....
   
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 Gallahad wrote:
 Kirasu wrote:
 Gallahad wrote:
I'm glad that GW is raising their prices. They could easily crush a huge swath of other businesses in the industry by utilizing their scale to sell their sprues for prices similar to historical kits and setting high minimum unit sizes for their main games.
It would be dirt cheap to start in on their skirmish games, people would buy kits just for the conversion bits, and you could keep the price to get a whole army slightly higher than it is today, but with double the number of models on the table or something.
Basically they could take the Amazon approach and compete in price and service nuking the competition from orbit.
When GW acts like their variable costs to produce plastic sprues is somehow similar to the price of metal or resin models, it creates a ton of breathing room for businesses whose creative vision I find much more compelling than GW's.
Even their last couple of good years with popular releases and some community engagement has put a lot of pressure on other players in the industry.


What in the world are you talking about? No one is buying Space Marines to play Infinity or Malifaux. People who want skirmish games with good rules instead of rushed games that are basically glorifies sales pitches aren't moving to GW games if they somehow reduced prices.

The Amazon model doesn't make any sense because GW isn't selling the same product like multiple stores on Amazon do.

I'm suggesting that people evaluate games along several different vectors, including price, aesthetics, ease of finding opponents, quality of rules, and price.
GW has been dominant in the industry for decades despite rules that are, as you say, just glorified sales pitches. Malifaux and Infinity only exist because GW allowed them to compete on both rules quality and price. I don't think it is coincidence that the current recognizable alternative games in the industry all grew leaps and bounds while GW was busy trying to saw off their own legs.

GW isn't selling the exact same product, but they are certainly selling a substitute. Basic Econ says when the relative price rises, people buy more substitutes. If Malifaux and Infinity got much more expensive to play relative to Kill Team or Necromunda or Bloodbowl, etc. I guarantee that fewer people would be playing them. Which makes them less attractive on the ease of finding an opponent vector which makes fewer people play them....


GW allowed companies to compete based on rules quality and price? Again, what in the world are you talking about? I've played GW games for 25 years and the quality of rules leaves them very low on the quality scale, it's not much of a competition.

Also, technology I would imagine "allowed" companies to start producing more models. Do you also think that GW has allowed miniature games and miniature based board games to thrive on Kickstarter? The drastically lower entry point allowed companies to enter the market.. not some bizarre act or incompetence of GW.

GW isn't a substitute for anything except other GW games because the product is not the same except in the most lazy (and pro-gw ways). If youre in the market to buy a 4 wheel drive truck is a sportscar really a substitute? Sure both are vehicles but that's not what you want to buy.

GW hobbyists, in my experience, tend to be quite insulated from the outside world and don't even consider other games which means the competition aspect is fairly moot. Even when they quit GW games they don't go look for better ones.

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 Gallahad wrote:
I'm suggesting that people evaluate games along several different vectors, including price, aesthetics, ease of finding opponents, quality of rules, and price.
I appreciate that you have price on there twice To that list I'd add "quality of material" and "ongoing support" as important for whether a player both adopts and stays with a game. GeeDub obviously doesn't do all of those well, but its plastic quality is unrivaled, to the point of setting an enormous standard for the industry at large, and it is really hard to fight against its ubiquity. One of the reasons I'm still fething playing GW stuff at all is that I know I can get games in for their flagships ...
If Malifaux and Infinity got much more expensive to play relative to Kill Team or Necromunda or Bloodbowl, etc. I guarantee that fewer people would be playing them. Which makes them less attractive on the ease of finding an opponent vector which makes fewer people play them....
I'm mostly quoting this to say:
a) Malifaux, at least prior to 3E, is a deceptively expensive game, which is also not played as much as it once was, for reasons.
b) I've played Kill Team on the weekly for like a year now and it is easily the most fun, balanced experience I've had playing 40k. It's also extremely cheap to get into as well as increasingly unsupported by the Dub. It drives me crazy that I can't point my new players towards the the starter set with AdMech & GSC, or the terrain + boards that we started with, or any boards at all apart from eBay or the junky new one. Plenty of people pointed out that KT was a cash grab / way to dump terrain and a path to get people to play Bighammer, sucks that I guess they're right? But at least we've still got the books and whatever KT stuff is floating around LGSs? Ignoring that you can direct order some stuff from GW for the moment.

Anyway, angst on liking Kill Team a lot and seeing it get less and less support.

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 Kirasu wrote:


No one should buy GW guard over anvil anyway. I cringe at cadian models when you could have so much higher quality minis for the same price.



Heck, even if you're buying from GW, the Necromunda Orlocks, Van Saar and Enforcers will do the job better.

 
   
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 Kirasu wrote:
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GW allowed companies to compete based on rules quality and price? Again, what in the world are you talking about? I've played GW games for 25 years and the quality of rules leaves them very low on the quality scale, it's not much of a competition.

Also, technology I would imagine "allowed" companies to start producing more models. Do you also think that GW has allowed miniature games and miniature based board games to thrive on Kickstarter? The drastically lower entry point allowed companies to enter the market.. not some bizarre act or incompetence of GW.

GW isn't a substitute for anything except other GW games because the product is not the same except in the most lazy (and pro-gw ways). If youre in the market to buy a 4 wheel drive truck is a sportscar really a substitute? Sure both are vehicles but that's not what you want to buy.

GW hobbyists, in my experience, tend to be quite insulated from the outside world and don't even consider other games which means the competition aspect is fairly moot. Even when they quit GW games they don't go look for better ones.


I don't know if you are intentionally being obtuse or we really are having trouble communicating so I'll try again. GW can't control whether other people put out good rules. Other manufacturers have always been able to compete on the rules vector.
GW can pick (to a large degree) what prices they sell at. Imagine a world where GW sold their plastics at prices similar to historical plastic kit makers. (Please note that historical kit makers are still in business, many selling fairly obscure/specialized plastic kits like Polish Napoleonic Lancers) Do you think that would make it easier or harder for smaller manufacturers to compete on price? I'm honesty a little bit baffled at your confusion on this point.

To claim that GW games aren't really substitutes for or with anything is absurd. Take your example of trucks and sports cars, if trucks suddenly got more expensive relative to sports cars I'd bet that people would buy fewer trucks and more sports cars. Do you disagree? If so, you probably have a good start on a new theory of economics.

Re technology and Kickstarter: Again, imagine you can buy a big ol box of GW plastic for $1 a model and walk out the door with it that day. Does CMON do better or worse than they are doing right now in that scenario?
   
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 Gallahad wrote:
 Kirasu wrote:
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GW allowed companies to compete based on rules quality and price? Again, what in the world are you talking about? I've played GW games for 25 years and the quality of rules leaves them very low on the quality scale, it's not much of a competition.

Also, technology I would imagine "allowed" companies to start producing more models. Do you also think that GW has allowed miniature games and miniature based board games to thrive on Kickstarter? The drastically lower entry point allowed companies to enter the market.. not some bizarre act or incompetence of GW.

GW isn't a substitute for anything except other GW games because the product is not the same except in the most lazy (and pro-gw ways). If youre in the market to buy a 4 wheel drive truck is a sportscar really a substitute? Sure both are vehicles but that's not what you want to buy.

GW hobbyists, in my experience, tend to be quite insulated from the outside world and don't even consider other games which means the competition aspect is fairly moot. Even when they quit GW games they don't go look for better ones.


I don't know if you are intentionally being obtuse or we really are having trouble communicating so I'll try again. GW can't control whether other people put out good rules. Other manufacturers have always been able to compete on the rules vector.
GW can pick (to a large degree) what prices they sell at. Imagine a world where GW sold their plastics at prices similar to historical plastic kit makers. (Please note that historical kit makers are still in business, many selling fairly obscure/specialized plastic kits like Polish Napoleonic Lancers) Do you think that would make it easier or harder for smaller manufacturers to compete on price? I'm honesty a little bit baffled at your confusion on this point.

To claim that GW games aren't really substitutes for or with anything is absurd. Take your example of trucks and sports cars, if trucks suddenly got more expensive relative to sports cars I'd bet that people would buy fewer trucks and more sports cars. Do you disagree? If so, you probably have a good start on a new theory of economics.

Re technology and Kickstarter: Again, imagine you can buy a big ol box of GW plastic for $1 a model and walk out the door with it that day. Does CMON do better or worse than they are doing right now in that scenario?


It's just the standard internet "You have to be wrong about something so I can win" nonsense.
   
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 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
The whole, "Well people buy GW at 20% off" excuse/point is meaningless. You still end up paying more, and at this point you probably are paying retail price for a box you purchased years ago at 20% off.

Recasting and 3D printing would be squashed if GW handled their production and actually lowered pricing. No easy tasks for them, especially the later.


No, it wouldn't, people will still use these methods , the simple facts are a certain proportion of the community will always try to scam GW out of money, simply can't be avoided, it's like people who download pdf codex and stream pirated movies, it's nothing to do with price ,it's just some people are parasites. Part of it is an entitlement culture and part of it is easy access to less than savory supply chains.
Doesn't help when you have things like Spikey BITZ promoting IP thieves to the masses just clicks and likes

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Obispudkenobi wrote:
 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
The whole, "Well people buy GW at 20% off" excuse/point is meaningless. You still end up paying more, and at this point you probably are paying retail price for a box you purchased years ago at 20% off.

Recasting and 3D printing would be squashed if GW handled their production and actually lowered pricing. No easy tasks for them, especially the later.


No, it wouldn't, people will still use these methods , the simple facts are a certain proportion of the community will always try to scam GW out of money, simply can't be avoided, it's like people who download pdf codex and stream pirated movies, it's nothing to do with price ,it's just some people are parasites. Part of it is an entitlement culture and part of it is easy access to less than savory supply chains.
Doesn't help when you have things like Spikey BITZ promoting IP thieves to the masses just clicks and likes


Given that music piracy greatly declined once music started being available cheaply I'd have to disagree with the Randian characterization of the unwashed masses,

Also care to point out where Spikey Bitz does this? Note that "28mm miniature" is not GW exclusive IP.

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 ScarletRose wrote:
Obispudkenobi wrote:
 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
The whole, "Well people buy GW at 20% off" excuse/point is meaningless. You still end up paying more, and at this point you probably are paying retail price for a box you purchased years ago at 20% off.

Recasting and 3D printing would be squashed if GW handled their production and actually lowered pricing. No easy tasks for them, especially the later.


No, it wouldn't, people will still use these methods , the simple facts are a certain proportion of the community will always try to scam GW out of money, simply can't be avoided, it's like people who download pdf codex and stream pirated movies, it's nothing to do with price ,it's just some people are parasites. Part of it is an entitlement culture and part of it is easy access to less than savory supply chains.
Doesn't help when you have things like Spikey BITZ promoting IP thieves to the masses just clicks and likes


Given that music piracy greatly declined once music started being available cheaply I'd have to disagree with the Randian characterization of the unwashed masses,

Also care to point out where Spikey Bitz does this? Note that "28mm miniature" is not GW exclusive IP.


It declined. It didn't disappear. As Obispudkenobi said, there is a certain percentage of the population that will steal a product no matter what. I disagree with the "entitlement culture" portion of his post, though. Some of that base piracy level is a combination of economics (can't afford it, but still want it) and contrarianism (I'm not going to pay for it because that's what The Man wants me to do!). The largest part of it is and always will be convenience. As Gabe Newell put it (paraphrasing), piracy is a service issue. If you make your product easier to purchase than it is to steal, most people will purchase it.

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Obispudkenobi wrote:
 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
The whole, "Well people buy GW at 20% off" excuse/point is meaningless. You still end up paying more, and at this point you probably are paying retail price for a box you purchased years ago at 20% off.

Recasting and 3D printing would be squashed if GW handled their production and actually lowered pricing. No easy tasks for them, especially the later.


No, it wouldn't, people will still use these methods , the simple facts are a certain proportion of the community will always try to scam GW out of money, simply can't be avoided, it's like people who download pdf codex and stream pirated movies, it's nothing to do with price ,it's just some people are parasites. Part of it is an entitlement culture and part of it is easy access to less than savory supply chains.
Doesn't help when you have things like Spikey BITZ promoting IP thieves to the masses just clicks and likes


Ironically piracy has two causes.

9/10 times the Service provided is inadequate. (gabe Newell)

1/10 times it's the pricing.

You can regard the living ruleset of 8th as Service.
Guess what, it sucks, is badly done and questionable often. GW literally forces matched play players to buy balance Patches. 1/year. Yeah bad Service.

Then gw however also messes up the pricing.
Take the new Chaos havocs f.e. 53 chf for 5 models.
That is excessive.
Gsc, a rather hordy army, 46 chf / 10 dudes that are about 60 ppm fully equipped.

GW gives people therefore double the reason to get pirated.



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 Grot 6 wrote:
BOHICA, with a touch of FUBAR!!!!

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this news.


Cry if you are one of the armies not having good 3rd Party support.
Laugh because gw in essence is back at square 1.

And as my grandma always told me: Schadenfreude isch E schöni Freud "
Or Schadenfreude is a beautiful happiness.

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 Gallahad wrote:
 Kirasu wrote:
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GW allowed companies to compete based on rules quality and price? Again, what in the world are you talking about? I've played GW games for 25 years and the quality of rules leaves them very low on the quality scale, it's not much of a competition.

Also, technology I would imagine "allowed" companies to start producing more models. Do you also think that GW has allowed miniature games and miniature based board games to thrive on Kickstarter? The drastically lower entry point allowed companies to enter the market.. not some bizarre act or incompetence of GW.

GW isn't a substitute for anything except other GW games because the product is not the same except in the most lazy (and pro-gw ways). If youre in the market to buy a 4 wheel drive truck is a sportscar really a substitute? Sure both are vehicles but that's not what you want to buy.

GW hobbyists, in my experience, tend to be quite insulated from the outside world and don't even consider other games which means the competition aspect is fairly moot. Even when they quit GW games they don't go look for better ones.


I don't know if you are intentionally being obtuse or we really are having trouble communicating so I'll try again. GW can't control whether other people put out good rules. Other manufacturers have always been able to compete on the rules vector.
GW can pick (to a large degree) what prices they sell at. Imagine a world where GW sold their plastics at prices similar to historical plastic kit makers. (Please note that historical kit makers are still in business, many selling fairly obscure/specialized plastic kits like Polish Napoleonic Lancers) Do you think that would make it easier or harder for smaller manufacturers to compete on price? I'm honesty a little bit baffled at your confusion on this point.

To claim that GW games aren't really substitutes for or with anything is absurd. Take your example of trucks and sports cars, if trucks suddenly got more expensive relative to sports cars I'd bet that people would buy fewer trucks and more sports cars. Do you disagree? If so, you probably have a good start on a new theory of economics.

Re technology and Kickstarter: Again, imagine you can buy a big ol box of GW plastic for $1 a model and walk out the door with it that day. Does CMON do better or worse than they are doing right now in that scenario?


I think you're overstating how elastic the demand for GW products is, and the extent to which GW players see other hobby plastics as substitute goods.

I'm a pretty plugged in hobbyist, and I'm still not likely to move money from GW into historical or skirmish games. Why? Because miniatures aren't just goods used by me, they allow me to interact with other owners. Sure, if GW raises prices, that makes Warlord Pike and Shotte models look a ton cheaper, but they will still have less value, because nobody I know plays Pike and Shotte. At best, it will goose the sales of the largest competitors, which at this point is mostly FFG. Maybe the ASOIAF game takes off, or PP makes a return, but the odds are people aren't going to turn from a game they can play in nearly any hobby shop to something that's played by only small pockets of players.

On the flip side, this same inelasticity means that GW will likely not lose all that many sales. I think people will keep buying.
   
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 Polonius wrote:

On the flip side, this same inelasticity means that GW will likely not lose all that many sales. I think people will keep buying.


This, x1000000. We go through this every price increase. Does anyone like them? Of course not. But the bean counters at GW have far more info than we do, and they feel any customers lost will be more than offset by the higher prices. And, they have been right this countless times in the past, and I doubt this price increase will be any different. History is very much on GWs side here.
   
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Yeah, I've long since given up on the idea that it'll make any difference. For a while there, while Kirby had driven things so low, I did, somewhat optimistically, think that they may cook their goose.

But anyone who witnessed some of the most venomous GW critics hitch up their skirts, load their money cannons and point them at Nottingham as soon as they started a Facebook page will realise, there is not much they can do that won't be forgotten once the new shiny rolls out.

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Perhaps we have? Perhaps the overriding feedback was "your stuff doesn't cost enough money?"

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wonder when we'll see results from their big survey...



Hopefully I win the Sisters army...even though I told them I bought a few Horus Heresy armies but didn't give a penny to Forgeworld other then books (man I hate pdf's nothing like the real book in your hand).... Man that Sisters army would be awesome to win
   
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 FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wonder when we'll see results from their big survey...



Hopefully I win the Sisters army...even though I told them I bought a few Horus Heresy armies but didn't give a penny to Forgeworld other then books (man I hate pdf's nothing like the real book in your hand).... Man that Sisters army would be awesome to win

You do know they announced the winners back in May?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/27/battle-sister-bulletin-part-8-retributors-first-lookgw-homepage-post-4/

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Looks like € prices will be affected as well

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
it seems GW will be increasing their prices in the € zone. Prices seem to be going up from 0.75-5.5€ on things.
I only compared about 10 things and the lowest was measuring tape at 0.75€ more and highest was Fenrisian wolves at 5.5€ more.
There are probably things with lower increases and higher increases, it doesn't seem to be % based and I've seen one thing even go down in price.
Stormboyz on GW Netherlands costs €23 but on German page 22.5€ and the new price is 22.5€ so price reduction/correction on some things?

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Fenrisian woofies go up by that much? Awesome. I always thought that kit was good value for money. Not anymore, I guess.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wonder when we'll see results from their big survey...


Not sure we will. For the 2017 survey they specifically said they'd give us a rundown on the top items (and then didn't). I don't recall any such statement about the 2019 survey.

I expect we'll get "you told, we listened" kind of remarks occasionally when they announce anything, but that's it.

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 Geifer wrote:
I expect we'll get "you told, we listened" kind of remarks occasionally when they announce anything, but that's it.
'In our last survey you guys talked a lot about our prices... and we listened! Our new and improved prices are even better than last year's prices. We're only rolling them out to some of our range right now, but don't worry; we'll get around to improving the rest of our prices soon enough!!!'

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Sounds good to me. GW should hire you.

On that note, remember January?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/04/a-quick-heads-up/

In the spirit of openness, we’ve got a quick bit of news for you today: as of the 4th of February this year, the price of paints and some of the Start Collecting! sets will change.


Aren't we missing that spirit of openness a little this time around? Guess they couldn't think of a way to sugarcoat this one.

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