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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's amazing what a coat of Nuln Oil can do for a miniature:

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That is better but obviously can't fix the go go Gadget head.

   
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Whoever did that photoshop was so concerned with the dark they let it obscure the grim. A smoking-gaping chest wound sure seems "grimdark" to me, but you can barely see it with all the cheap filters applied to the second image. It looks like a coffee drinker threw up on the picture.

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BrianDavion wrote:
 Roknar wrote:
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's amazing what a coat of Nuln Oil can do for a miniature:



as if I needed more confirmation that I didn't like their recent style...like night and day...jebus


this isn't GW's style though this is marvel.



They didn't specify whose style they were referring to did they.


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 EnTyme wrote:
Whoever did that photoshop was so concerned with the dark they let it obscure the grim. A smoking-gaping chest wound sure seems "grimdark" to me, but you can barely see it with all the cheap filters applied to the second image. It looks like a coffee drinker threw up on the picture.


Boycott your coffee vendor immediately mate

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Im not really concerned with the art until we see the inside.

Covers dont always portray the story within, and often, it's meant to grab the attention. Aren't they usually pretty bright and colorful, even for the dark stuff?

My only hope is that they don't retcon Marneus's most humiliating 'drawn and quartered via Swarmlord'. I want to see a nice full art page of it please.



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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's amazing what a coat of Nuln Oil can do for a miniature:

Spoiler:

That's really funny because it's really accurate ^^.

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Honestly, much as I prefer the photoshopped cover floating around, the actual Marvel cover doesn't strike me as all that bad, rather it looks very 2E. It doesn't look like it'd be out of place next to any of the covert art on any book from 2nd edition. For a comic book, that seems pretty spot on. There have been goofier 40k comic covers.

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The funny thing is that everything is primaris with the exception of the dreadnought.

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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
See what? That it looks like the 40K we're used to?


That the direct comparison could be used as an example on a 1D4chan page; that it is what 40K is generally presented as, but also what makes it faintly ridiculous; that it looks like the cheap old 'night for day' effect from cinema; that it does looks like someone puked coffee or spilled nuln oil over it; that a superficial photoshop filter somehow makes the art good; that as Carnikang says, people are close to judging the book differently by a cover it doesn't even have, that isn't going to make any difference to how the contents suck, or on the offchance, how they don't.

Here's two codex covers, direct from GW, featuring the same thing as the comic cover:

Spoiler:




It's a question that's appropriate to comics: what makes the big shiny space marine in primary colours 'better' and 'more 40K' after someone wipes a used teabag over it?

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People need to realise something when trying to claim 2nd edition style is fine.

40k was not popular in 2nd edition. I was basically a spin-off of WHFB in SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! It became a lot more popular post 3rd edition following the grimdarkening. 40k is popular BECAUSE it's grimdark.

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 BaconCatBug wrote:
People need to realise something when trying to claim 2nd edition style is fine.

40k was not popular in 2nd edition. I was basically a spin-off of WHFB in SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! It became a lot more popular post 3rd edition following the grimdarkening. 40k is popular BECAUSE it's grimdark.
O_o

40k was already the dominant tabletop miniatures game & IP with plenty of popularity by the time 3E rolled around, with books, videogames, etc well established during 2E. Most of the art in both 2E and 3E was still done by the same people.

Likewise, there was plenty of Grimdark in RT and 2E stuff as well, and having goofy cartoony art doesn't prevent stuff from also being grimdark in its own way (e.g. the Heavy Metal movie that so much of 40k imagery is based on). Ascribing 40's popularity to "grimark" alone, and particularly only post 3E stuff, seems rather odd.

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 Vaktathi wrote:
 BaconCatBug wrote:
People need to realise something when trying to claim 2nd edition style is fine.

40k was not popular in 2nd edition. I was basically a spin-off of WHFB in SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! It became a lot more popular post 3rd edition following the grimdarkening. 40k is popular BECAUSE it's grimdark.
O_o

40k was already the dominant tabletop miniatures game & IP with plenty of popularity by the time 3E rolled around, with books, videogames, etc well established during 2E. Most of the art in both 2E and 3E was still done by the same people.

Likewise, there was plenty of Grimdark in RT and 2E stuff as well, and having goofy cartoony art doesn't prevent stuff from also being grimdark in its own way (e.g. the Heavy Metal movie that so much of 40k imagery is based on). Ascribing 40's popularity to "grimark" alone, and particularly only post 3E stuff, seems rather odd.



Don't tell them. For many people the only good 40k is the flavour of it they enjoy most.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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 Vermis wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
See what? That it looks like the 40K we're used to?


That the direct comparison could be used as an example on a 1D4chan page; that it is what 40K is generally presented as, but also what makes it faintly ridiculous; that it looks like the cheap old 'night for day' effect from cinema; that it does looks like someone puked coffee or spilled nuln oil over it; that a superficial photoshop filter somehow makes the art good; that as Carnikang says, people are close to judging the book differently by a cover it doesn't even have, that isn't going to make any difference to how the contents suck, or on the offchance, how they don't.

Here's two codex covers, direct from GW, featuring the same thing as the comic cover:

Spoiler:




It's a question that's appropriate to comics: what makes the big shiny space marine in primary colours 'better' and 'more 40K' after someone wipes a used teabag over it?


They you for voicing my view of the situation in a way I couldn't quite put into words without resulting to insults. I kept trying to say pretty much exactly this, but every time I tried, it seemed like it would devolve into petty name calling, so I gave up trying to post it. Well done.

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I have to admit, the photoshopped version looks...if not better, a lot more like Warhammer 40k than the original version to me. Warhammer will always look like the paintings of Blanche, Kopinski, Smith, England and Dainton, as far as I’m concerned. The modern era of GW art looks wrong, and so does this comic book cover. Not bad, just wrong for Warhammer 40k.



But also bad. The central focus of the illustration is the guy with the worst proportions and perspective errors.

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I have to admit, the photoshopped version looks...if not better, a lot more like Warhammer 40k than the original version to me. Warhammer will always look like the paintings of Blanche, Kopinski, Smith, England and Dainton, as far as I’m concerned. The modern era of GW art looks wrong, and so does this comic book cover. Not bad, just wrong for Warhammer 40k.



But also bad. The central focus of the illustration is the guy with the worst proportions and perspective errors.


The art is honestly not up to the quality of GW's level, that's for sure. The photoshopped cuts, and the digital stuff is lazy looking...

What happened to Black Library's own comic book lines, anyway?

Why did they go to Marvel, again?



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 Grot 6 wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I have to admit, the photoshopped version looks...if not better, a lot more like Warhammer 40k than the original version to me. Warhammer will always look like the paintings of Blanche, Kopinski, Smith, England and Dainton, as far as I’m concerned. The modern era of GW art looks wrong, and so does this comic book cover. Not bad, just wrong for Warhammer 40k.



But also bad. The central focus of the illustration is the guy with the worst proportions and perspective errors.


The art is honestly not up to the quality of GW's level, that's for sure. The photoshopped cuts, and the digital stuff is lazy looking...

What happened to Black Library's own comic book lines, anyway?

Why did they go to Marvel, again?



I think people are forgetting something.

these comics proably aren't being made for us

if GW wanted to make comics for us they could continue to do small BL stuff etc. the marvel deal is an attempt to extend the reach of 40k, aiming at typical comic books fans, hence it uses tradtional 3 colour colours etc

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 BaconCatBug wrote:
People need to realise something when trying to claim 2nd edition style is fine.

40k was not popular in 2nd edition. I was basically a spin-off of WHFB in SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! It became a lot more popular post 3rd edition following the grimdarkening. 40k is popular BECAUSE it's grimdark.


2nd wasn’t popular? What utter nonsense.

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 JohnnyHell wrote:
 BaconCatBug wrote:
People need to realise something when trying to claim 2nd edition style is fine.

40k was not popular in 2nd edition. I was basically a spin-off of WHFB in SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! It became a lot more popular post 3rd edition following the grimdarkening. 40k is popular BECAUSE it's grimdark.


2nd wasn’t popular? What utter nonsense.


Was 3rd edition less popular (i.e. worse selling) in your area? That would be surprising if true. GW has never published to my knowledge sales figures of each edition but, judging from GW store openings and online interest, 3rd definitely exploded in popularity. I personally got into the game during that time as well and my local group expanded within a year or two from three guys who would meet to play at the FLGS every week or two to a dozen that had to be split into twice weekly 40k days due to space/table limitations. YMMV.

For a less personalized take on the question, here's a link to the poll set up on dakka years ago. The poll is obviously outdated as it is from almost 10 years ago but since we're talking about 20-30 year old editions the data is still relevant. Out of 1800+ respondants, 3rd edition brought in almost 60% more players than 2nd.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/299988.page

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 JohnnyHell wrote:
 BaconCatBug wrote:
People need to realise something when trying to claim 2nd edition style is fine.

40k was not popular in 2nd edition. I was basically a spin-off of WHFB in SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! It became a lot more popular post 3rd edition following the grimdarkening. 40k is popular BECAUSE it's grimdark.


2nd wasn’t popular? What utter nonsense.
It was the early 90s. Things like Dungeons and Dragons, 40k, and even PC gaming were not popular. I know it's hard to imagine a world where "nerd" interests were not mainstream, but I can assure you it did exist.

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 Vermis wrote:

It's a question that's appropriate to comics: what makes the big shiny space marine in primary colours 'better' and 'more 40K' after someone wipes a used teabag over it?

I don't know. If I did, I'd be a better artist. But I don't, so I keep using brown inks on my miniatures without having a clue why it makes them better looking in my eye.
No big deals, we can't all be good at this, my mini looks fine enough on a tabletop ^^.

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 warboss wrote:
 JohnnyHell wrote:
 BaconCatBug wrote:
People need to realise something when trying to claim 2nd edition style is fine.

40k was not popular in 2nd edition. I was basically a spin-off of WHFB in SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! It became a lot more popular post 3rd edition following the grimdarkening. 40k is popular BECAUSE it's grimdark.


2nd wasn’t popular? What utter nonsense.


Was 3rd edition less popular (i.e. worse selling) in your area? That would be surprising if true. GW has never published to my knowledge sales figures of each edition but, judging from GW store openings and online interest, 3rd definitely exploded in popularity. I personally got into the game during that time as well and my local group expanded within a year or two from three guys who would meet to play at the FLGS every week or two to a dozen that had to be split into twice weekly 40k days due to space/table limitations. YMMV.


His assertion wasn't that 3rd was less popular, it was that 2nd was popular.

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While I'd agree with the sentiment regarding newer 40k art in general looking like far too much was done on computers and will always be a Blanche/England/etc fan, I think people are focusing a wee bit too much on missing a layer of sepia wash on a comic book cover. Put this next to half the Eldar codex covers, the 2E box art, etc, I think it's fine, I think if anything it's flaw is in reproducing the Primaris models too faithfully and not making them a little bit cartoonier in proportions to fit the color style, but that may also be something GW insists on to use the IP.

A two second google search turns up a number of other 40k comic covers easily just as goofy or worse, even if not all quite as visually bright.

Spoiler:

The intern CG'd this in the last 5 minutes before printing!


Generic 80's fantasy cover pose!


Wolfguard with Wolfpelt and Wolfteeth Wolfstalking Obliviously


I think it's safe to say that this is not the worst expression of 40k's art.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
 JohnnyHell wrote:
 BaconCatBug wrote:
People need to realise something when trying to claim 2nd edition style is fine.

40k was not popular in 2nd edition. I was basically a spin-off of WHFB in SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! It became a lot more popular post 3rd edition following the grimdarkening. 40k is popular BECAUSE it's grimdark.


2nd wasn’t popular? What utter nonsense.
It was the early 90s. Things like Dungeons and Dragons, 40k, and even PC gaming were not popular. I know it's hard to imagine a world where "nerd" interests were not mainstream, but I can assure you it did exist.
If this is the line we're going with, and comparing it to RPG's and stuff like PC gaming, I think tying 40k's popularity to post-2E Grimdarkness is absolutely nonsensical, because 40k's popularity has tracked pretty well with these other things, and none have anything to do with being grimdark. 40k's popularity rose along in the same way scifi/fantasy pop culture in general did over the last 30 years. 40k has always had some level of cartooniness to it along with the grimdark, and I don't think the Marneus Calgar comic cover is out of place at all among the greater plethora of 40k art and IP.

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Not talking about popularity, but 40k definitely had a strong visual identity. It always had...although it seems to have been watered down somewhat before the beginning of the primaris era.

Like it or not, the color palette was part of the visual identity (in representational 40k art).

   
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 warboss wrote:
 JohnnyHell wrote:
 BaconCatBug wrote:
People need to realise something when trying to claim 2nd edition style is fine.

40k was not popular in 2nd edition. I was basically a spin-off of WHFB in SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE! It became a lot more popular post 3rd edition following the grimdarkening. 40k is popular BECAUSE it's grimdark.


2nd wasn’t popular? What utter nonsense.


Was 3rd edition less popular (i.e. worse selling) in your area? That would be surprising if true. GW has never published to my knowledge sales figures of each edition but, judging from GW store openings and online interest, 3rd definitely exploded in popularity. I personally got into the game during that time as well and my local group expanded within a year or two from three guys who would meet to play at the FLGS every week or two to a dozen that had to be split into twice weekly 40k days due to space/table limitations. YMMV.

For a less personalized take on the question, here's a link to the poll set up on dakka years ago. The poll is obviously outdated as it is from almost 10 years ago but since we're talking about 20-30 year old editions the data is still relevant. Out of 1800+ respondants, 3rd edition brought in almost 60% more players than 2nd.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/299988.page


Here in Spain it didn't really change much. 40k always played second fiddle to WFB. If anything, the advent of The Lord of the Rings made it even less popular.

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 Albertorius wrote:

Here in Spain it didn't really change much. 40k always played second fiddle to WFB. If anything, the advent of The Lord of the Rings made it even less popular.


Fair enough. Which edition did you start with btw? At least for me, locally, WFB was more popular until 40k 3rd and then the latter took over. LOTR gained a dedicated and passionate small fanbase that seemed equal parts primarily"home" gamers used to using more eclectic historical and fantasy fanbases and a portion of the store WFB regulars.

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 warboss wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:

Here in Spain it didn't really change much. 40k always played second fiddle to WFB. If anything, the advent of The Lord of the Rings made it even less popular.


Fair enough. Which edition did you start with btw? At least for me, locally, WFB was more popular until 40k 3rd and then the latter took over. LOTR gained a dedicated and passionate small fanbase that seemed equal parts primarily"home" gamers used to using more eclectic historical and fantasy fanbases and a portion of the store WFB regulars.

I started with WFB 3rd and Rogue Trader myself ^^

Over here 40k only really surpassed WFB when GW killed it.

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Yeah, Spain was a kind of an odd ball. Here WFB was always the biggest game of GW. Thats why they did even special edition miniatures of the Lustria Campaing for spain and everything.

But for one reason or the other they abandoned all continental europe.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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 Grot 6 wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I have to admit, the photoshopped version looks...if not better, a lot more like Warhammer 40k than the original version to me. Warhammer will always look like the paintings of Blanche, Kopinski, Smith, England and Dainton, as far as I’m concerned. The modern era of GW art looks wrong, and so does this comic book cover. Not bad, just wrong for Warhammer 40k.



But also bad. The central focus of the illustration is the guy with the worst proportions and perspective errors.


The art is honestly not up to the quality of GW's level, that's for sure. The photoshopped cuts, and the digital stuff is lazy looking...

What happened to Black Library's own comic book lines, anyway?

Why did they go to Marvel, again?


By Black Library comics, do you mean the old Inferno and Warhammer Monthly stuff(90's-'05), the Boom! Studio licensed books('06-'14), or the Titan Comics licensed books('15- '19)?

They went with Marvel because it's a more mainstream brand.

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 Grot 6 wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I have to admit, the photoshopped version looks...if not better, a lot more like Warhammer 40k than the original version to me. Warhammer will always look like the paintings of Blanche, Kopinski, Smith, England and Dainton, as far as I’m concerned. The modern era of GW art looks wrong, and so does this comic book cover. Not bad, just wrong for Warhammer 40k.



But also bad. The central focus of the illustration is the guy with the worst proportions and perspective errors.


The art is honestly not up to the quality of GW's level, that's for sure. The photoshopped cuts, and the digital stuff is lazy looking...

What happened to Black Library's own comic book lines, anyway?

Why did they go to Marvel, again?

Comics aren't very profitable, especially not these days. Marvel's comic department has been haemorrhaging money for years despite the MCU, arguably, making their brand as popular as it's ever been.

In GW's case it's more about brand awareness/advertising. Stick Marvel on the side and you've got an air of legitimacy about it that might tempt readers of comics to look up what this whole Warhammer malark is. Like how Warhammer Adventures is less about making money off the books and more providing another avenue for dads to awkwardly try and get their kids interested in their plastic addiction than dragging them to the local GW and pointing at colourful boxes.

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 Grot 6 wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I have to admit, the photoshopped version looks...if not better, a lot more like Warhammer 40k than the original version to me. Warhammer will always look like the paintings of Blanche, Kopinski, Smith, England and Dainton, as far as I’m concerned. The modern era of GW art looks wrong, and so does this comic book cover. Not bad, just wrong for Warhammer 40k.

But also bad. The central focus of the illustration is the guy with the worst proportions and perspective errors.


The art is honestly not up to the quality of GW's level, that's for sure. The photoshopped cuts, and the digital stuff is lazy looking...

What happened to Black Library's own comic book lines, anyway?

Why did they go to Marvel, again?

Comics aren't very profitable, especially not these days. Marvel's comic department has been haemorrhaging money for years despite the MCU, arguably, making their brand as popular as it's ever been.

In GW's case it's more about brand awareness/advertising. Stick Marvel on the side and you've got an air of legitimacy about it that might tempt readers of comics to look up what this whole Warhammer malark is. Like how Warhammer Adventures is less about making money off the books and more providing another avenue for dads to awkwardly try and get their kids interested in their plastic addiction than dragging them to the local GW and pointing at colourful boxes.



Interesting... care to share your sources? Because mine say that while single issues of printed comics has decreased by 20% in the last 20 years, comic book companies have tripled their market size through trade paperback sales, digital sales and increasing prices.

That would point to exactly the opposite of "not being very profitable".

https://www.quora.com/Are-comic-books-a-dying-medium-If-so-why

According to ComicChron, which has statistics going back to the 60s, since 1997 year-to-year sales of comics have more than doubled.

In 1997 the estimated size of the market was $300-320 million, today it is $780 million, and that doesn't count digital sales which are exploding. In 2014 digital sales were $540.38 million.

If you do the math that's $1.320 billion last year, which is four times what the comic industry was making nearly 20 years ago.

And they're talking about comic sales, there, mind. Not revenues from licensing.

That said, it is true that sales have gone down a bit since 2017.

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