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I just wish they'd devote equal attention to all the other non-snowflake chapters for fluff/model support.
You’re preaching to the choir, I’ve been hoping and suggesting that since before COVID.
2E - Blood Angels
3E - probably Black Templars.
4E - Ultras
5E Ultras
6E DA 7E- DA again
8E UM
9e UM
In between there was a Wolf...Ork? Nid? Boxed set, and a UM/Eldar, and UM vs DG/Chaos alternate starter sets to roll out some Primaris.
We’re overdue for a BA set again, and there’s also the “summer campaigns” to provide some variety because they probably learned a lesson from the DA sets with proprietary bits bikers. They do seem to be dipping their toe back into those waters with the (really weird) list of multi-chapter forces sent in the Indimitus box. I forget which book, the 9E rule book? Some chapters sending one guy and half a roast beef sandwich kind of stuff. Hopefully they’ll recommit and we’ll start seeing more Vigilus roughly Demi-Company sized mutli chapter forces. Vigilus was much better than the Baal series in that regard (especially if you skip the DA tropes) but 2E was probably best with Dante, Calgar and Tu’shan all on planet.
Plus they’re still kicking the primarisization of chapter special units down the road. Hell, we still don’t have a jump-fight unit yet, though Outriders are close.
Faction Theme: Roman Legionaries - Favorite historical army.
Faction Strength: Adaptability/Tactics - I am kind of Jack of all trades myself.
There is nothing not to like about them for me. I also love their arrogance (I always imagine a marine with a chainsword and a bolt pistol looking on some foe twice their size and they charge in confident in their chances of victory) and adherence to doctrine like religion. They are the epitome of marineness. Far more than space Vikings or space Christians Crusaders or space dark lords of the sith. Space Romans are coolest.
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fraser1191 wrote: I also like the color blue, Ultramarines were my first army and are for sure my biggest. Originally that was my deciding factor but after reading lore, not having a theme like bikes baked into them or jetpack etc, rebuilding civilizations after destroying them. Stuff like that made me love them more.
Ultramarines are the poster child because the most popular color in the world is blue. I'm willing to bet that if it was red we'd see blood angels everywhere.
Out of all the factions of marines - they look the most pure and regal out of the founding chapters. I think that has the most to do with it. Siamhan are the chosen eldar faction and they are red...I think it just has to do with that colors look best on what models.
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If we fail to anticipate the unforeseen or expect the unexpected in a universe of infinite possibilities, we may find ourselves at the mercy of anyone or anything that cannot be programmed, categorized or easily referenced.
- Fox Mulder
I wasn't really sure if I should do something special for my 40,000th post (that's this post, BTW). In the end I couldn't decide on what to do, but then I saw this thread, and figured this fits well. It's not something trivial about a new release or preview, or a question of rules or tactics, or a complaint, or taking someone to task for being a moron (it's been a hard 7 days without posting...). No. Instead, this is something to do with my first army:
The Ultramarines.
Now I say first army, but really I started two armies at the same time: Ultramarines and Tyranids. The fact that the two would become so intertwined in the fluff was't really a thing back then, but as you got Marines and Tyranids in the first GW product I ever bought (Tyranid Attack), it can technically count as my first army (and so can 'Nids! ).
So, why Ultramarines? Well, there's a quote in this thread that sums it up quite well:
I like blue. At the time the differences between Space Marine Chapters was really just their colour (and Chapter symbol, I suppose), so your choices were very light blue, red, blue or green (Salamanders were a big thing before Dark Angels were). Never liked red that much, green didn't interest me, the light blue didn't appeal, but the deeper rich blue of the Ultramarines was my thing.
So I went with them. It wasn't a question of fluff or miniatures back then. It was pretty much just down to the colour you like.
I have continued to like the Ultramarines since then, never wavering once. Hell, when my household got the Internet for the first time, way back in the days before 56k dial-up modems, "Marneus Calgar" was the first name I chose for myself on the first forum (READ: guestbook) that I came across. That name was taken (as much as one could "take" a name on a guestbook), and so I chose Half Brother of Marneus Calgar, later shortened to H.B.M.C.. It's been that way ever since, for literal decades. The original Marneus Calgar remains one of my fav minis GW has ever made. I've never bought a Chief Librarian Tiggy mini past the first one they made, as I see no reason to get another. It's perfect. Sicarius is a punk.
I hate the memeing about them, the whole "Spiritual Liege" nonsense that grew like a cancer on 4chan. I find calling them "Smurfs" irrational (there are tons of other blue chapters). I think that people complaining about them always being front and centre don't understand that from a branding perspective having all your Marine boxes have the same uniform scheme is something that makes the product line cohesive. I don't know if we really needed our Primarch to come back, but I'm glad that he was the first one to come back for the Imperium.
Overall, I love my Ultramarines, and I cannot see that ever going away.
Having said that, one person in this thread made a very interesting post that showed me a perspective that I had never considered:
TonyH122 wrote: I don't like Ultramarines because they live in the grimdark, but they don't belong in it. It has no effect on them.
This is a fantastic point, and one that I can't find fault in. However, with this thought it mind, it only makes me like them more. He's right, they don't belong in the grimdark, because they're the one's fighting against it. They can't be part of it, because they're forever striving (perhaps fruitlessly) to bring it to an end.
You don't need a 'flaw' to be interesting, you need a good theme. Ultramarines acting as paragons of humanity, forever fighting to bring them back to the light? Yeah. I like that.
Also: Yay. 40,000 posts.
BaconCatBug wrote: I liked Ultramarines as a concept, but their Flanderisation makes me despise them.
Sure you're not talking about the Space Wolves?
Blackie wrote: Last but not least I can't stand how primaris look...
And that's the fault of the Ultramarines?
Dude. Hi-five on the OG Calgar and Tigurius. I think I have three of those Calgars around, and the Tigurius is in my painting queue alongside the other seven Librarian models of that age. I'm still incredibly impressed at just how clean those sculpts for Calgar and Tigurius are, even from so long ago. I find it really interesting how the metal sculpt quality for many of the Space Marine models seemed to drop in quality around 4th and 5th ed.
I never liked the (new) Sicarius model either. I absolutely love the old model he's based on though. He was another reason I liked the UM, he looked like he was leading his army like a boss.
Also, H.B.M.C name. Huh. never would have guessed!
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