Lathe Biosas wrote:
It's my Birthday, I survived to 45!

So... what did you get me...

 Skinflint Games wrote:
Car passed it's MOT. I can breathe again.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Is it true that the UK is going to an all electric/hybrid vehicle setup in the near future?

 Overread wrote:
...whilst new car sales of electric are growing but not very fast.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Enough about weird humans!


Aliens.... maybe.

www.bbc.com

Scientists find promising hints of life on distant planet K2-18b

Space
Scientists find "strongest evidence yet" of life on distant planet K2-18b: "This could be the tipping point"
Updated on: April 17, 2025 / 7:52 AM EDT / CBS/AFP


Astronomers announced Thursday that they had detected the most promising "hints" of potential life on a planet beyond our solar system, though other scientists expressed skepticism.

There has been vigorous debate in scientific circles about whether the planet K2-18b, which is 124 light years away in the Leo constellation, could be an ocean world capable of hosting microbial life, at least.

Using the James Webb Space Telescope, a British-U.S. team of researchers detected signs of two chemicals in the planet's atmosphere long considered to be "biosignatures" indicating extraterrestrial life.

On Earth, the chemicals dimethyl sulfide (DMS) and dimethyl disulfide are produced only by life, mostly microscopic marine algae called phytoplankton.

The researchers emphasized caution, saying that more observations were needed to confirm these findings, and that they were not announcing a definitive discovery.

But the implications could be huge, according to Nikku Madhusudhan, a Cambridge University astrophysicist and lead author of the study, published in The Astrophysical Journal Letters.

Madhusudhan told BBC News that he hopes to obtain the clinching evidence soon.

"This is the strongest evidence yet there is possibly life out there," he said. "I can realistically say that we can confirm this signal within one to two years."

Artist's concept shows what exoplanet K2-18 b could look like based on science data
An artist's concept shows what exoplanet K2-18 b could look like based on science data. The illustration was released on September 11, 2023.
NASA, CSA, ESA, J. Olmsted (STScI), Science: N. Madhusudhan (Cambridge University)/Handout via REUTERS
But outside experts pointed to disputes over previous discoveries about the exoplanet, adding that these chemicals could have been created by unknown means having nothing to do with life.

"Goldilocks" zone
More than eight times the mass of Earth and 2.5 times as big, K2-18b is rare among the roughly 6,000 exoplanets discovered so far in that it orbits its star in a habitable or "goldilocks" zone.

This means it is neither too hot nor too cold to have liquid water, considered the most important ingredient for life.

Telescopes observe such far-off exoplanets when they cross in front of their star, allowing astronomers to analyze how molecules block the light streaming through their atmosphere.

In 2023, the Webb telescope detected methane and carbon dioxide in K2-18b's atmosphere, the first time such carbon-based molecules were detected on an exoplanet in a habitable zone.

It also detected weak signals of the chemical DMS, leading astronomers to turn Webb towards the planet again a year ago, this time using its mid-infrared instrument to detect different wavelengths of light.

They found much stronger signs of the chemicals, though still well below the "five sigma" threshold of statistical significance scientists seek for such discoveries.

Even if the results are confirmed, it would not necessarily mean that the planet is home to life.

Last year, scientists found traces of DMS on a comet, which suggested it can be produced in non-organic ways and is perhaps not a "biosignature".

However the concentration of the chemical observed on K2-18b appears to be thousands of times stronger than levels on Earth, likely suggesting a biological origin, Madhusudhan said.

"Hellishly hot"
K2-18b has long been considered the premier candidate for a "hycean planet" -- an ocean world bigger than Earth with a hydrogen-rich atmosphere.

Hycean planets, much like Earth, are covered in oceans and have atmospheres rich with hydrogen, an element that is essential for life. Many of the planets are bigger and hotter than Earth— up to 2.6 times larger than our planet and reaching atmospheric temperatures up to nearly 200 degrees Celsius, or 392 degrees Fahrenheit.

Graph shows the observed transmission spectrum of the habitable zone exoplanet K2-18 b using the James Webb Space Telescope MIRI spectrograph instrument
A graph shows the observed transmission spectrum of the habitable zone exoplanet K2-18 b using the James Webb Space Telescope MIRI spectrograph instrument. The vertical shows the fraction of star light absorbed in the planet's atmosphere due to molecules in its atmosphere. The data are shown in the yellow circles with the 1-sigma uncertainties.
University of Cambridge via Reuters
These planets would not be expected to be home to intelligent alien life, but rather tiny microbes similar to those in Earth's oceans billions of years ago.

"Hycean planets open a whole new avenue in our search for life elsewhere," Madhusudhan said previously.

Some research has questioned whether the currently proposed hycean planets are too close to their stars to support liquid water -- including K2-18b, which orbits its star every 33 days.

Raymond Pierrehumbert, a planetary physics professor at Oxford University, has conducted separate research indicating K2-18b is too hot for life.

If the planet did have water, it would be "hellishly hot" and uninhabitable, he told AFP, adding that oceans of lava were more plausible.

Sara Seager, a professor of planetary science at MIT, called for patience, pointing to previous claims of water vapor in K2-18b's atmosphere that turned out to be a different gas.

Madhusudhan estimated that it would take just 16 to 24 more hours of Webb's time to reach the five-sigma threshold, which could happen in the next few years.

The current three-sigma is comparable to the odds of flipping a coin 10 times and getting the same result each time, Cambridge University statistician Stephen Burgess explained.

Five sigma would be getting that result after 20 flips, and would mean "we can be very confident that this observation isn't just a chance finding," he said.

Even beyond K2-18b, Madhusudhan said Webb and future telescopes could allow humanity to discover life outside our home planet sooner than one might think.

"This could be the tipping point, where suddenly the fundamental question of whether we're alone in the universe is one we're capable of answering," he said.

 Flinty wrote:
The government is watering down the heat pump push dramatically, so I can see them rolling back on vehicles as well. If the world could just go a few years without some kind of drama we would be able to focus better on moving on from fossil fuels :(

 Overread wrote:
What we need is a big focus on nuclear energy - we should be building several nuclear power stations (and perhaps somewhere other than the most sandy coast we've got...) alongside renewables so we can jointly drive up supply and down prices.


And yeah at the local level people would be FAR more likely to insulate their houses; improve local green energy production and other things if the world could just go a while to let people actually save up to afford stuff like that.