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Wow that is a lot of trim. But I did actually squee out loud when I saw that leg

Bigger than a Warlord or not, its certainly got some heft to it. Could be GW decided to go wider instead of taller?

Oh and according to Google translate, "Puer Magnus" is Latin for Big Boy. Sounds like a decent enough Titan name to me

 Fraggle wrote:
Its not an imperator for me. No steps on the feet or doors for infantry - legs are supposed to be troop carrying aren't they. Update of the old drawing as above and probably a heavier variant than the warlord

Yeah, you could be right on this one.

Not seeing a weapon on its carapace aside from the AA-gun, which makes me wonder if its Warlord size, but its armament is roughly on par with a Warbringer. Difference might be that it doesn't have a carapace weapon but instead two warlord-grade arm cannons, and very tough armour - with loads of little close-range guns. Probably a titan for sitting on an objective and being a royal pain to budge.

But it'll be interesting to see the full model on Saturday. The leg detail looks really good.

Heck,, I could almost not care what it is,, I am just overjoyed that we are finally getting a Titan for Titanicus instead of more knights,, knights are cool and all but this game is not called Knightanicus.....

Can I briefly express the sincere hope that this is just the stand-out show piece to start this year’s releases with a bang, and we will also get a roadmap to a) more Titan classes and b) rules for corrupted and possessed titans?

Antiope was an Amazon from Greek mythology.

I'm curious and a bit wallet fearful if they have simultaneously designed this new titan for AT and 40k scale

You're all forgetting a key ingredient here. Regardless of class, rules, balance, fluff everything.......................... This Titan relaese will be whatever GW beleive will sell a lot of and have re-useability with variants of. The missing ingredient is £££. It's whatever they beleive will make them the most £££.

We're all enlightened now.

Also, it's going to be made from plastic guys. I'm betting this won't be a resin or pewter titan. It's a plastic titan and they wan't to make money from it, as much money as possible.

If it is a imperator then they’ve intentionally left off the castle, so major points against it there. It just genrally doesn’t match the modern art for imperators.

That said, GW have historically framed themselves as a model company first, and in this case I’m 1000% with them on that. I want to have an imperator model sooner or later, and I don’t really care what effect it would have on the associated game either way.

Imperators aren’t a health of the game consideration, they’re a “I want to own an imperator” consideration. A health of the game consideration would be finally getting on releasing a non-mirror match faction so we can diversify the meta and playerbase.

On the Facebook page, I was going to post a "Reset the clock" meme for all the "It's an Imperator" posts but I quickly realized I'd be resetting the clock so often the damned thing wouldn't be able to tell time any more.

Since this model appears to be based on concept art for the Warlord, the most likely prospect is a Nemesis Warlord, possibly a siege Titan of some sort. If so, the main gun would likely be a Hellstorm Cannon since it's already carrying what looks like a Plasma Annihilator. Yes, it could still be a Warbringer variant but I think that's unlikely given the significant changes in armor and overall style.

Some people have suggested it could be a Nightgaunt but you need maneuverability to get in close enough to use the CC weapon that variant is known for. The armor arrangement in the pictures suggest this Titan isn't exactly nimble.

If it isn't a Nemesis Warlord then it might be used as the Executor class Titan. Other than the one entry about Ullanor Prime, the narrative is wide open for GW to use.

Finally, there is the possibility that we're being snookered. That the pictures don't belong to a single model. In this scenario the legs belong to one while the shoulder belongs to a different one. While I'd love to see two models released, I think that's most likely wishful thinking on my part. Even so, it's still more plausible than an Imperator.

I've seen a few people say that sketch from G&E is a Warlord but I have that book and nowhere does it say that the sketch is a Warlord. Why do you say this sketch is a Warlord? Is there an interview where he says it's a Warlord or something? (I know he's done plenty of interviews where he's discussed his art, that's the only thing I can think of where he may have expounded on this particular piece).

Interesting. If you look at the “blueprint” in the teaser image you can just make out the second connection between the hips and knee, just like the sketch. Now I can’t wait to see what the left “knee pad” is; maybe a missile launcher or something?

JWBS wrote:
Why do you say this sketch is a Warlord? Is there an interview where he says it's a Warlord or something?

I inferred it from the warhammer community article.

JWBS wrote:
I've seen a few people say that sketch from G&E is a Warlord but I have that book and nowhere does it say that the sketch is a Warlord. Why do you say this sketch is a Warlord? Is there an interview where he says it's a Warlord or something? (I know he's done plenty of interviews where he's discussed his art, that's the only thing I can think of where he may have expounded on this particular piece).

Its one of the original art pieces for Adeptus Titanicus, before the first kit settled on the beetleback design. Not sure if it was ever explicitly linked to the Warlord name though.

It is pretty cool to see more of these deep dives to take ancient art and update them to fit in the modern/functional titan styling

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I'm curious and a bit wallet fearful if they have simultaneously designed this new titan for AT and 40k scale

Yep, I'm wondering that, I initially thought the latest preview image looked more like 40k scale looking at the armour, but looking again at the detail of the interior knee I think it's probably AT scale, though the level of detail does help to suggest that it is definitely a large AT model. Will definitely be hard to resist a 40k scale version if it exists. The level of design work required for a new Titan makes me think that they'd be likely to design for 40k as well, as I get the impression that Titans are actually pretty big sellers for FW (my release day Warbringer is numbered in the 200's so they were confident enough to cast up a fair number straight off).

I've also seen the mention of the Nightgaunt, but that doesn't really work unless they've just taken the name and changed the fluff, as, as far as I can see the Nightgaunt is described as a fast close combat Titan, whereas this does not look at all fast and doesn't have any close combat weapons that we have seen, though of course there could be more weapon options than just the twin plasma weapons we've seen so far.

That original artwork was my favourite Titan design back when I first saw it in WD 106, advertising the upcoming release of Adeptus Titanicus, so really exciting to finally see it (or something very much like it) as a model, never thought we'd actually get knee guns (even though they do seem to make quite a lot of sense (in a 40k way) for dealing with smaller targets).

edit - I'm also wondering what the little bit of detail is in the very top right of the new image, almost looks like something curving down and round from the back of the waist section, as the position doesn't look quite right for part of the opposite leg.

edit - I'm also wondering what the little bit of detail is in the very top right of the new image, almost looks like something curving down and round from the back of the waist section, as the position doesn't look quite right for part of the opposite leg.

I think that might be the tip of the lower barrel of that weird quad-plasma nightmare gun. It may have just crept into the image.

So AT has finally joined the "glue guns EVERYWHERE" design.

That’s big!

Damn, I love it.

Awesome!

It's massive. I bought a couple of 40K Knights to build my Imperators, but it looks like that won't be big enough now due to the scale of this thing.

Christ. That is hideous!


I want one.

Nice, and looks like the upper arm guns have options, missiles in the main photos, twin turbo lasers on the book cover.

Certainly not short on guns though, though a lot of them don't seem especially useful at AT scale!

I count 11 guns

Love it. And its not an Imperator. Still have that to come.

Be interesting to see what the inevitable second weapon load out is

I wish they’d just release the Traitor Legions book at the same time as the Loyalist one.

I really hope the weapon and face plate options shown on the book cover are not going to be held back for a 2nd kit

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I count 11 guns

I'm getting at least 14:

2 main arm guns, 2 upper arm guns, 2 point defence las cannons in the chest, 4 AA guns, 2 knee guns, the carapace missile launcher and I can see at least one rear point defence gun (I assume it has at least 2 though if not more)

JWBS wrote:
It's massive. I bought a couple of 40K Knights to build my Imperators, but it looks like that won't be big enough now due to the scale of this thing.

Imperator 55m, warlord 33. So imperator should be about 66% bigger than warlord. 40k knights haven't been right size ever