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Adepticon reveals:

IG technology has entered the 1950s!

There's no stopping us now!

Honestly I've wanted an IG truck with a heavy stubber FOREVER, of course this one will be $50+ so... probably not? But it is very nice.

The light tank, also a great addition.

Commissar tank is fantastic. Love the diorama. This is what the Lord Solar should have been.

That is what the Taurox SHOULD have been.

Struggling to find a niche for the new vehicles, they're great looking, but the Centaur seems to compete with the Taurox (faster, less armored) and the Chimera (more armored, more guns, slower), while the Hypo seems to be a wheeled Sentinel.

Like the Saladin armoured car.

I’ve figured out the problem with the newer Ork kits. It’s the teeth. Compare to the classic Brian Nelson kits - those Orks had fangs. The latest ones have weedy teeth that would make a grot blush.

I hope the rest of the launch box Orks are better then the teased one. Also, what is the pose he’s doing - what’s he doing with his slugga?

Are we going to have to buy terrain objective markers now? I was a little confused on that part.

 Gordy2000 wrote:
Like the Saladin armoured car.

I’ve figured out the problem with the newer Ork kits. It’s the teeth. Compare to the classic Brian Nelson kits - those Orks had fangs. The latest ones have weedy teeth that would make a grot blush.

I hope the rest of the launch box Orks are better then the teased one. Also, what is the pose he’s doing - what’s he doing with his slugga?

It's funny you mention the teeth, because while the model has small ones, look at the one in the artwork next to the model. Now doze are sum proppa big teef!

As for the pose, he's firing the slugga in the air to intimidate you, silly 'umie git!

 cuda1179 wrote:
That is what the Taurox SHOULD have been.

Amen to that. Now I wonder how many people it can really hold, 10 would be the safe assumption but the 3 models it comes with barely fit. Could they make a 5 man transport?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
That is what the Taurox SHOULD have been.

Amen to that. Now I wonder how many people it can really hold, 10 would be the safe assumption but the 3 models it comes with barely fit. Could they make a 5 man transport?

Nah, its gonna carry 10 guys. If we go with what it could carry based on how many figures you could jam there then lot of transports could carry only just 3 or 6. XD

Has this been posted here yet? Steel Legion concept art, but not due for 2 more years. Weird. I mean we just had a whole thing about how DKK can pass for SL, especially if you assume most of their cities and factories are in ruins and they're getting gear from off world. But here we are.

See that Commissar Party Wagon? I’ve got erm….7 words for you…

If it doesn’t hurt, it doesn’t count.

You know what I mean, and what I’m thinking….


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Also? See that lad, bottom left?



That is the Orkiest Ork Artwork in a long time. Proper 2nd Ed vibes, though and I’m not being ironic because ironic is ever so boring, it might be partially to do with the amount of red on show.

Love it, hope it translates to a model.

Ooh, just noticed that blue helmeted heavy intercessor on bottom right (BA marks their combat role by helmet colour) so maybe we are getting those Primaris "Devastators" finally.

Commissar Car is also just begging to become a Cult Limo for GSC.


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Askherly, my hint about its potential use in Necromunda may be too deep a cut, given how long ago and relatively obscure the Redeemer is.

So…. Pulpitek - The Pulpitek is a specially-made, armoured half-track vehicle that travels the Ash Wastes and the corrupt byways of the underhive. The Pulpitek is also heavily armed with an array of Autocannons. From the command pulpit of his vehicle, the Redeemer can preach his fiery oratory while commanding his loyal flock in the midst of battle.

 Platuan4th wrote:
STEEL LEGION

But they don't match my metals.

Im sort of disappointed by this. Caving in to internet yelling isn't a great thing generally and theyre2025 early art sketches. So not only will the guard now have 4 legally distinct infantry, heavy weapons, command squads and +1 unique per regiment bloating it's ass out, it's also gobbling up a lot of releases and production effort for the next 2-3 years.

Those new vehicles look like third party stand-ins, not GW products. Like they can't figure out what basic principles make the Russ and Chimera what they are.

And why are we getting a new transport, when the Chimera kit is, what? Three decades old?

I do like the Marine armour tweaks, even if it's just the helmet returning, and the Ork is nice. Wazdakka will be nice once he's removed from the scenic base.

 Sotahullu wrote:
Ooh, just noticed that blue helmeted heavy intercessor on bottom right (BA marks their combat role by helmet colour) so maybe we are getting those Primaris "Devastators" finally.

Or, the 2nd edition artwork had a Devastator in the bottom right, so gotta pump that nostalgia...

The entire 40k section of this reveal looks AI generated

And on both vehicles the slider was way too close to "real world" side of the scale

 His Master's Voice wrote:

and why are we getting a new transport, when the Chimera kit is, what? Three decades old?

I literally cannot tell if this is sarcasm or not

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I literally cannot tell if this is sarcasm or not

The Chimera hull is, in fact, three decades old. And instead of updating one of the most recognisable vehicles in the setting, GW releases a generic half truck, apparently so that IG can operate more like the Orks they're fighting.

How's that for sarcasm?

Chimera design is 30 years old. Current kit is not.

Not sure exactly when, but it did receive a refresh, and is notably different to the original.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I literally cannot tell if this is sarcasm or not

The Chimera hull is, in fact, three decades old. And instead of updating one of the most recognisable vehicles in the setting, GW releases a generic half truck, apparently so that IG can operate more like the Orks they're fighting.

How's that for sarcasm?

Gottcha. I've wanted an IG troop truck for ages, my only complaint is the truck should carry like 20 or 30 guys not 10, but I'm happy. I feel like if this is half the price of a chimera (points wise, I know it will cost more dollar wise) and faster it fills a new role. A quick way to dash out your men during the endgame to claim objectives is very useful.

The current Chimera kit is ~15 to ~20 years old, yeah, older than some people posting on this thread, but it holds up and looks good. I'm sure a nice refresh would improve it, but it isn't critical and I don't think it would get folks to replace their existing kits.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Chimera design is 30 years old. Current kit is not.

Not sure exactly when, but it did receive a refresh, and is notably different to the original.

I found a list online saying the current Chimera kit released in 2010, but some of the Basilisk sprues were from 2003.

Seems like a similar situation to the Rogal Dorn providing a modern kit in a similar role as the Russ, without directly replacing it.

Glad, to a point, that the Taurox chassis lineage is being fleshed out. I wish the old resin Gothic Bren Carrier were back instead. The armored car is, like the Rogal Dorn, without any chassis lineage and waaaaaay too weird war 2.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Chimera design is 30 years old. Current kit is not.

Not sure exactly when, but it did receive a refresh, and is notably different to the original.

Well, I did say "hull", not "kit".

The Chimera sprues were recut (twice I think) and received minor edits that narrowed the sides, stitched a bunch of tracks together and enlarged the turret, but I'm fairly certain the underlying design is the same as it was in 1995 in both layout and dimensions.

But you know what? You're right. I should be glad GW didn't touch the Chimera, if the new vehicles are any indication of where they're taking IG designs.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
[The current Chimera kit is ~15 to ~20 years old, yeah, older than some people posting on this thread, but it holds up and looks good. I'm sure a nice refresh would improve it, but it isn't critical and I don't think it would get folks to replace their existing kits.

You're probably right. In truth, if the new vehicles looked better, I probably wouldn't be complaining about it. Just old man things.

I will however remark that, locally, every single Leman Russ is the new HH version with scratch built or printed sponsons.

Slow mo playback of the launch vid shows a few things off:

* An ultramarine intercessor (not a sergeant) with a chainsword. Ork boyz are getting slugga/shoota - unlikley but perhaps marines are also combo-ing the different types of intercessor into 1 unit (could just be an assault intercessor with a "wrong" shoulder pad though, seems more likely that they have just forgotten that squad markings are a thing).
* New-old landspeeder is modernised by sticking loads of guns on it. Looks like it has an underslung onslaught gatling cannon, a melta up top, wing missiles, plus perhaps a pair of smaller guns (maybe stubbers) sticking out the front in the nipple gun position. Otherwise quite faithful to the 3rd edition-onwards design from the blurry vid.
* Ork sentinel has secondary rokkits under the chin to go with the KFF and the huge shoota up top.
* Van vets seem to be plasma (or maybe volkite) pistol plus power sword default, relic blade on the sergeant?

Oddities on the box art:

* Already mention several times about the gravis devastator in the foreground.
* New librarian in the back right? Blue armour and a staff? Looks like he's just left his overcoat at home now which is a welcome change if true.
* Not sure what the white heraldry on the mid left BA refers to - seems to just be a regular intercessor loadout.

I don't know who the Pickelhaube guys are but they look cool.

Valrak's list for new ork units was

Characters:
warboss
pain boy
weird boy
big boss nob
nob with waaagh banner

Units:
boyz (20) - notes they will be monopose even if they have options
grots
wartrakk
gun emplacement walker thingy

The video focuses heavily on "gun emplacement walker thingy" (also shows warboss, weird boy) so I'd say this is confirmed.

Dudeface wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
STEEL LEGION

But they don't match my metals.

Im sort of disappointed by this. Caving in to internet yelling isn't a great thing generally and theyre2025 early art sketches. So not only will the guard now have 4 legally distinct infantry, heavy weapons, command squads and +1 unique per regiment bloating it's ass out, it's also gobbling up a lot of releases and production effort for the next 2-3 years.

The copyright mark in the lowrr left corner that says "2025" makes it clear this was always the plan.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
STEEL LEGION

But they don't match my metals.

Im sort of disappointed by this. Caving in to internet yelling isn't a great thing generally and theyre2025 early art sketches. So not only will the guard now have 4 legally distinct infantry, heavy weapons, command squads and +1 unique per regiment bloating it's ass out, it's also gobbling up a lot of releases and production effort for the next 2-3 years.

The copyright mark in the lowrr left corner that says "2025" makes it clear this was always the plan.

Not really, it shows they drew them in 2025, it doesnt mean they ever intended to take it forwards and it obviously wasn't planned to coincide with 11th even if it did. Plus, kinda sucks for the poor catachans to get moved back if this is for their 11th codex.

Keep in mind the rather hysterical Valrak video title akin to “Steel Legion Am Done A Ded” is based solely on the trailer video from GW not showing Steel Legion.

That’s it. One video didn’t show a thing, and somehow that means that thing is now gone forever and ever and ever amen.

So is this something to appease fan discontent, or something to slap the hysterical back to their sense, Airplane! style?

Because the two aren’t the same. “But where are my Steel Legion” is of course a completely reasonable question. “Why Am You Distory Mai Favurit” is not.