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OK, so A-D-B has a lot of hype to fulfil!

It seriously looks great though, does that also suggest that there are extra pictures within the novel?!
Looks so so good though!

I am glad that H&B is coming out. BUT and yes there is always a big BUT - 10 years GW, 10 years, I mean come on 10 years. It has taken you 10 years to re-release what is basically Inferno magazine. That is 10 years worth of income you have been missing from me that I would have gladly paid. Inferno also sparked at least one army that I wasn't even contemplating.

Bitter much? no, just a tad narked. It is almost as if showing H&B as something new and it isn't.

Just Dave wrote:OK, so A-D-B has a lot of hype to fulfil!

It seriously looks great though, does that also suggest that there are extra pictures within the novel?!
Looks so so good though!

WOW!

I was already excited for this release, but now... more so!

If it wasn't already going to the top of my 'Read Now!' list...

Now, I can only hope that Corax DOES end up teaching Lorgar a thing or two on the battlefield!

Decided to finally read Flesh and Iron, almost done, despite the simple plot of "we are the good regiment and those other regiments are snobby indig hating bigots" it's pretty good so far, a bit too thick on the whole Vietnam thing but still pretty darned good. Also, I hate fraghags even more now.

So, has anybody listened to Aenarion as of yet?

No, because it doesn't come out until October you silly goose!

But Black Library did say that it, along with the "Sabbat Worlds Anthology" has shipped already...

BL books usually pop up a month in advance in the stores around here.


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Just finished Flesh and Iron, I'm really looking forward to Blood Gorgons now.

Flesh and Iron was really good and I´m very much looking forward to reading Hunt for voldorius (in my hand).

Anyone read Fear the Alien yet? (collection of short novellas) and if so, how was it overall?

I picked up Hunt for Voldorius and Fear the Alien and started with Fear the Alien. So far, not bad but nothing to write home about. I have finished the first 3 short stories and 2 were decent and 1 was just bad. For the Salamander lovers out there one of the stories focuses around Praetor and Tsu'gan again.

I'll be onto the Hunt next.

Pyriel- wrote:

Anyone read Fear the Alien yet? (collection of short novellas) and if so, how was it overall?

usual mix, some really good, nothing really bad.

I'll be intrigued what people make of the Dark Eldar story.

I especially liked the tie in between Messrs. Kyme and DBC's tales.

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
And don't even get me started on Galaxy in Flames. Why they got him, of all people, to write the virus bombing of Isstvaan III is beyond me. It'd be like if I wrote a serial novelization of the Pacific War wherein the Americans get warned of the imminent attack on Pearl Harbor, send all their battleships out, locate the Japanese carrier fleet, and then sink half of them before dying to a man in a blaze of glory, thereby handing the Japanese a pyrrhric victory. Of course, that wouldn't be a book about the Bombing of Pearl Harbor, but rather the Battle of Pearl Harbor, which is basically what Galaxy in Flames is about.

It never made sense why Horus landed ground troops to fight the loyalists when he ended up conducting an exterminatus anyway. Then again the reasons for the Alpha Legion turning traitor are threadbare to say the least and the other books all have their own versions of swiss cheese plots. Maybe it's deliberate, by knowingly writing cak they know the follow up debates and discussions will act as a form of product promotion in itself - there's no such thing as bad publicity and all that. Either that or they know what a captive audience they have who'll lap up whatever dren they churn out.

As I recall Horus didn't want to land troops, he couldn't restrain Angron and finally relented.

Horus sent troops down there to fight in order to prepare them for fighting their Space Marine battle brothers as they would have to throughout the Heresy. It wasn't such a bad thing for the traitors in the end...
It's similar to the destruction of the Technocracy in the same book.

Maybe you guys should try looking into things with a bit more effort rather than assuming that Horus is a fool who lost because of Istvaan III and that the Alpha Legion are mugs who don't know what they're doing.

Quite appropriately, don't judge a book by its cover.

That makes no sense sending them down to prepare them for later wars, they were obviously sheep already or they wouldn't have fought their own legions. Why waste time by sending down units loyal to Horus either like the Dies Irae titan?
Horus had already committed traitor forces to Istvaan for whatever reason so Angron played no real part in traitor forces being sent in to mop up as that was the (stupid) plan all along.

cadbren wrote:That makes no sense sending them down to prepare them for later wars, they were obviously sheep already or they wouldn't have fought their own legions. Why waste time by sending down units loyal to Horus either like the Dies Irae titan?
Horus had already committed traitor forces to Istvaan for whatever reason so Angron played no real part in traitor forces being sent in to mop up as that was the (stupid) plan all along.

Why did Horus commit his own troops to the fight when he could hsve just hammered them from orbit? It was Angron's fault - he was the first to descend with his world eaters. Horus was rather angry about this development, but instead of raging, he decided to use the opportunity to blood his loyal troops fully against fellow space marines. Part of the reason it did not go to plan was that the joint loyalist troops gained warning from the Emperor's Children loyalists and so they could get underground in time.

And as for why he sent down the Dies Irae - he knew it would survive the bombardment and the prescence of it would allay suspicion and would help deceive the troops he was wanting to kill.

I quite liked Fear the Alien, couple of weak stories in there but then a couple of quite strong ones. I especially liked the way that they retold the salamander story again but from the chaos and even genestealer point if view, nice touch i thought. I liked the Dark Eldar story and thought it was told really well for a short story.

Hunt for Voldorious is a good book and is well written, keeps up a good pace all the way through and actually made me want to start a SM army :/

Still waiting for my HUNT FOR VOLDORIUS to show up - it should be here by tomorrow!

Given the Marines involved, it is going to the top of my list!

Do we know what's next in the HH Series, past THE FIRST HERETIC and the anthology book?

Two Garro audio books, another anthology novel and False Gods as an audio drama. Source: BL previews.


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Nagash Immortal has also been announced, August 2011 sadly!

Argh!

I do not like audio dramas!

I want those things in PRINT!

Much like I want RAVEN'S FLIGHT in print!

Alpharius wrote:Still waiting for my HUNT FOR VOLDORIUS to show up - it should be here by tomorrow!

Given the Marines involved, it is going to the top of my list!

*looks at date*
Still waiting?
Should be on top, its a fine read.


Agreed, audio dramas are a 'extra' that should follow after the printed version.
Ravens flight may need an expanded story then, doubt its more than a few pages text.

Raven's Flight was a sound idea, but a bit too short really. I found the manly tears of Corax most manly.

BrookM wrote:
Nagash Immortal has also been announced, August 2011 sadly!

SON OF A... At least the last in the Sigmar series is coming out January 2011, and with the epic battle between Sigmar and Nagash touted in that book, it may be enough to hold me over till August.

I just noticed that Horus Rising will also be released in audio book format. Abridged and spread over five CD's coming January 2011.

Im a huge fan of audiobooks, but abridged versions just arent my thing. The legacy of the force series is a good example. A lot gets left out. Sure, 13h+ audio books can be a bit extreme but what can you do

http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/coming-soon/Battle-of-the-fang.html

^^ Space wolves are the next chapter to get a space marine battle book. Battle of the fang... AWESOME!!!!1!

lords2001 wrote:
And as for why he sent down the Dies Irae - he knew it would survive the bombardment and the prescence of it would allay suspicion and would help deceive the troops he was wanting to kill.

That's no reason to actually send it down, it would have been easy to send a fake in any case like an empty landing craft. By the time the marines were on the ground it would be too late for them to do anything and as they would have been more intent on their own missions they would not have noticed the absence of something like a titan until they were planetside and swapping tactical data.
Horus was intent on attacking the marines on the ground from the start, it is a bad piece of fluff unless there was something else going on like a hope that some of the marines could still be brought around. Who knows, maybe Slaanesh seeing the potential of Lucius set Horus up to make this mistake on the offchance that Lucius could be saved.

All I really want from Black Library is to set it up so that I can actually get album artwork+track information when I move things from CD to my iPod.

Aaron! Prod them with bears until they do that for me, and I'll award you handsomely with food from the mystical Southlands of America.

Can we just drop October and move straight to November ?

Ah, Fire Pauldron, second in the Pauldron trilogy. I kid, great series so far.

Yes and no...

The Salamanders series for me is very uneven...

Though I suppose it is a tick above The Dark Surplice series!