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Most PanO units do not wear a cross from the presently 64 units only 16 units are MO related in the vanilla list and 4 of those units are characters, NA2 is a distinct entity and MO do not fit there at all, they are Church assets and church is a PanOceanian entity.
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Oh, so there's no christians anywhere outside of PanO? Or does PanO state have shares in the Pope?
Seriously, 16 out of 64 is 25% of the army list, that's a lot of design space taken up by one sub-faction that's mostly just HI variants anyway.
5 HI types out of 16 total HI units in PanO vanilla list are NOT church units. PanO the state, the superpower, the most advanced army in the human sphere has less power armor types than a religious organization.
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There will definitely be Christians outside of PanO, the Observance been a notable faction that split from the church because it aligned itself with Aleph, probably other communities exist neutral, aligned, or hostile to the church, the church for sure will never object in more Christians been around, reality is it is not PanO who has shares to the Pope, its the Pope who has shares in PanO, hence why Military Orders exists.
What you say about HI is true 10 out of 16 HI units are MI though only 7 out of 12 non character HI are MO, still over 50% that is because MO are a sub-faction and can have the luxury to have highly customizable armour in contrast with PanO military who utilizes Orcs as their mainline HI (hence why Orcs have so many variants in its sectorial).
I don't think singling out "characters" makes sense, Joan of Arc is functionally the same as Swiss Guard in that they're both Ava 1 unit.
That bein said, there's no point in arguing this further, PanO's a subfaction of Church and its not going to change so let's move on.
There is something *off* about the paint jobs on those minis, or the lighting is gak.
The Montesa. Hmmm, Not what I expected. The helmet is not very Pan-O, or MO. I dislike. Ah well.
Rygnan wrote: The Druze Society are also a very real Christian sect IRL so I'd hazard a guess they're another Christian splinter separate from MO and even PanO
The Druze are an offshoot, of sorts, of Islam, although they do not think of themselves as Muslims (From what I understand). They are definitely not Christian.
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Shame it wasn't used for literally anything but a knight.
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Red Harvest wrote: There is something *off* about the paint jobs on those minis, or the lighting is gak.
The Montesa. Hmmm, Not what I expected. The helmet is not very Pan-O, or MO. I dislike. Ah well.
The helmet likely would have worked better if it had been for a Fusilier/Auxilia styled model.
On a Knight that's wearing a helmet under it? Looks like a bad cosplay.
Credit where credit's due, the sculpts look nice outside of the derpy Motorbiker. The standard bearer is the first time I've really felt like MO has its own identity.
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The bike is a cute mix between a roadster and a offroad, i like it. The offroad helmet on top of power armor helmet looks so out of place it cracks me up.
As for the action pack, I like the contragluten croissaints and I 100% approve of the banner-lady's thick bannerpole, it's sensibly proportioned to avoid bending. The HI models are all very nice, but if they weren't labelled, I'd have hard time telling which is which (outside of the mini-tag).
Is it normal for subfactions to have variant paint schemes? This one (even beyond the typical capes/tabards) seems like it has more white than the normal PanSmurfs. I liked the scheme before but I think the extra color improves in it.
warboss wrote: Is it normal for subfactions to have variant paint schemes? This one (even beyond the typical capes/tabards) seems like it has more white than the normal PanSmurfs. I liked the scheme before but I think the extra color improves in it.
The different Knightly Orders have their own heraldry.
warboss wrote: Is it normal for subfactions to have variant paint schemes? This one (even beyond the typical capes/tabards) seems like it has more white than the normal PanSmurfs. I liked the scheme before but I think the extra color improves in it.
The different Knightly Orders have their own heraldry.
Do the other subfactions have specific unique colors added to the general PanO ones?
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warboss wrote: Is it normal for subfactions to have variant paint schemes? This one (even beyond the typical capes/tabards) seems like it has more white than the normal PanSmurfs. I liked the scheme before but I think the extra color improves in it.
The different Knightly Orders have their own heraldry.
Do the other subfactions have specific unique colors added to the general PanO ones?
Yeah, NeoTerra has red, Varuna has turquoise, Aconticimento has green and Svalarheima has I think black? And then Military Orders has various Knight Orders.
warboss wrote: Is it normal for subfactions to have variant paint schemes? This one (even beyond the typical capes/tabards) seems like it has more white than the normal PanSmurfs. I liked the scheme before but I think the extra color improves in it.
Corregidor is primarily Red with white and black accents
Bakkunin is primarily White with red and black accents
Tunguska is primarily Black with red and white accents.
In some books you also get alternate paint schemes for a sub faction. JSA for example has 4-5 I believe. Tohaa have 4 too I believe. But they haven't been very consistent with providing official ones.
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It is ingenious, this way they can sell us the same model, but with updated hairdo in 5 years' time once sidecuts are no longer in fashion You've heard of fashion souls, now get ready for haircutfinity
warboss wrote: Is that a completely new TAG or a knightly variant of an existing one?
It's a new TAG for an order that used to be HI.
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Cronch wrote: Does the good book not say to girdle your loins for work? He just tucks it into the belt for combat and folds out when dismounting
It's a cyberpunk-esque/adjacent universe, right? Maybe it's electronically controlled cloth that can change shape as needed... whether to billow dramatically in zero wind or intimately expose armored thigh if you cheesecake pose with one foot on a tactical rock.
warboss wrote: Is that a completely new TAG or a knightly variant of an existing one?
It's a new TAG for an order that used to be HI.
Thanks. It looks pretty cool and a bit chunkier than I expected (which is a good thing for my tastes). If it wasn't right next to the infantry (assuming they're in exact scale for the crop/cut/paste collage), I'd think it was manned despite the usual remote TAGs for this faction.
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