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I love the game, it's the equivalent of a popcorn movie, it's light entertainment, there is no thinking involved, definitely good to pass an hour or so.

The single player is stupidly easy, so I'd recommend anyone to do it on hard right from the off, the multiplayer can lag soooo much, it's beyond annoying.

There isn't much depth in the multiplayer modes, and I'd like to see some DLC for it

I bought mine for £25 brand new a few days after it was released, definitely glad I got it that cheap

Funny, I find its multiplayer element far more deep than most FPS or 3PS games. Unless it's something like Nuclear Dawn or other which has its own unique features, Space Marine's addition of the 3-dimensional elements (Whcih really need to be explored more, but be that as it may...) really makes for interesting fights over most games.

Certainly better than more generic games like gears, battlefield, or call of duty. The main problem is lag, really...

For anyone who has held out on buying the game in the US for the console format, the Best Buy ad this week has it on sale for the xbox/ps3 @ $40. YMMV though as I don't know if those types of sales are regional or national.

I'm quite looking forward to the co-op DLC, should get me back into playing this having not been on for a while. I know you can gain XP in Exterminatus, but I wonder if it will count towards armour/weapon challenges.

Fezman wrote:I'm quite looking forward to the co-op DLC, should get me back into playing this having not been on for a while. I know you can gain XP in Exterminatus, but I wonder if it will count towards armour/weapon challenges.

They've said that the XP will count in general but I personally hope the kills themselves don't count towards challenges. Getting killstreaks on generic orks is a heck of alot easier than against flesh and blood players using marines with perks.

That would indeed be a very good reason for co-op not to count towards challenges.

Regarding the Exterminatus mode, I see a lot of potential for expansion there if it keeps getting DLC support. There are so many opportunities to bring in new locations and factions (the main drawback for fans of said factions being that they would be appearing as mere AI enemies - though this is really just a long-winded for me to say they should add Tyranid-infested space hulk and Necron tomb co-op maps).

I'm hoping that there will be additional DLC (paid or free) but frankly I'm not too hopeful. The fact that the game is on sale a few weeks after release for $20 less (even if temporary) usually isn't a good sign. In the US, the NPD data used to tell you what games sold well but I haven't kept up on that in a long while. I guess we'll have to wait a few more weeks as the game came out this month and the NPD reports are monthly IIRC.

warboss wrote:I'm hoping that there will be additional DLC (paid or free) but frankly I'm not too hopeful. The fact that the game is on sale a few weeks after release for $20 less (even if temporary) usually isn't a good sign.

Considering that they sold out and had to produce more a week after release says they did pretty good in the eyes of the company.

Melissia wrote:

warboss wrote:I'm hoping that there will be additional DLC (paid or free) but frankly I'm not too hopeful. The fact that the game is on sale a few weeks after release for $20 less (even if temporary) usually isn't a good sign.

Considering that they sold out and had to produce more a week after release says they did pretty good in the eyes of the company.

Where did you get that info? I haven't heard that (or frankly any initial sales numbers).

Melissia wrote:Funny, I find its multiplayer element far more deep than most FPS or 3PS games. Unless it's something like Nuclear Dawn or other which has its own unique features, Space Marine's addition of the 3-dimensional elements (Whcih really need to be explored more, but be that as it may...) really makes for interesting fights over most games.

Certainly better than more generic games like gears, battlefield, or call of duty. The main problem is lag, really...

3D has been explored in games since Duke Nukem and Tribes(?), and the game has very generic weapons compared to other games like Gears of War (Digger, Torque Bow(admitingly stolen from Turok, itself), and Grenade Bag and Tagging say's "Evening, Madam"), but I agree on it's major problem being Lag. Nothing like getting killed by a Power Sword from twelve feet away.

Not that gears is any better.

warboss wrote:

Melissia wrote:

warboss wrote:I'm hoping that there will be additional DLC (paid or free) but frankly I'm not too hopeful. The fact that the game is on sale a few weeks after release for $20 less (even if temporary) usually isn't a good sign.

Considering that they sold out and had to produce more a week after release says they did pretty good in the eyes of the company.

Where did you get that info? I haven't heard that (or frankly any initial sales numbers).

From the Space Marine website, and their twitter account unless I remember wrong..

http://www.spacemarine.com/blog-post/high-demand-space-marine

Demand for Space Marine has been amazing, and we are getting reports that some retailers in the UK are sold out on PC. We can assure you that we’re working hard to make sure that all Battle Brothers get their copy of Space Marine as quickly as possible.

A second wave of Space Marine stock has already made its way to select stores across the UK today and will be available from tomorrow, with a third wave to arrive on Monday. In the meantime, you can download the game today from the THQ UK E-Shopor purchase online from these stores.

Slarg232 wrote:3D has been explored in games since Duke Nukem and Tribes(?)

... you had so many examples and you choose THOSE?

Heck even Quake 3 had more vertical action than those two barring custom maps lol...

But for Space Marine, it's a built in function of one of the classes, not merely a map feature.

anyone has a release date for DLC?

No, I don't think that's been released yet.....but it's soon though.

Melissia wrote:From the Space Marine website, and their twitter account unless I remember wrong..

http://www.spacemarine.com/blog-post/high-demand-space-marine

Ah, thanks. Lets hope the results of one platform on an albeit densely populated island translate well to the international scene.

I'd dearly appreciate some extra multiplayer maps. The five we have currently have gotten rather stale.

There are 5? I think I've only ever played 3 This must be investigated...

Melissia wrote:But for Space Marine, it's a built in function of one of the classes, not merely a map feature.

Tribes 2, every class could fly under their own power. Of course, some less than others, but when you're wearing Terminator sized armour it's probably not a good idea to let the player fly about like a scout, game balance and all that.

Slarg, having played a lot of Space Marine and Gears, the lag I've encountered in Gears is minimal in comparison (but it does show up sometimes). Why this is I don't know, does GoW3 use dedicated servers? P2P is horrible.

Yes, GoW3 uses dedicated servers.

kitch102 wrote:There are 5? I think I've only ever played 3 This must be investigated...

Yea same here, Im only remembering 3 stages.......so wheres the other 2?


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But yea, the lag is just eye gougingly annoying. I love ducking behind cover only to be shot to death from magic heat seeking bullets. Or the 20ft sword that has been mentioned. The worst though, I was stabbed to death by a knife from a good 15ft away. That got me annoyed. Or if your spraying someone and they died from lag from another player, you dont even get XP for helping because the bastard was apparently already dead

Melissia wrote:Considering that they sold out and had to produce more a week after release says they did pretty good in the eyes of the company.

Hey that is good to hear, Mel.

I think most of the people who bought it for xbox got it for the campaign though, it didn't even make it into the top 20 of Unique-Users on Xbox Live :(

Weird though, I always get fast matches when I play multiplayer; maybe after the coop DLC.

Yes, GoW3 uses dedicated servers.

Actually it isn't always for sure dedicated, it still has p2p matches as well. I believe ranked competitive matches are weighted higher to actually get space on the dedicated boxes, casual matches and horde games are probably all P2P, especially from my experience with them so far.

daedalus-templarius wrote:I believe ranked competitive matches are weighted higher to actually get space on the dedicated boxes, casual matches and horde games are probably all P2P, especially from my experience with them so far.

Complete opposite for me, though considering I've only played Horde and Beast so far, very rarely with any lag.

MrDwhitey wrote:

daedalus-templarius wrote:I believe ranked competitive matches are weighted higher to actually get space on the dedicated boxes, casual matches and horde games are probably all P2P, especially from my experience with them so far.

Complete opposite for me, though considering I've only played Horde and Beast so far, very rarely with any lag.

Well, their network code is excellent this time around. I haven't had a huge mess of lag issues while playing horde, just a couple times I've had a few hiccups.

Hmm. I'm sure it was five, when I scrolled through on the Custom Game screen. Hang on, I'll check.

*Hold music*

Basilica, Hab Center, Shattered Bridge, Manufactorum and Waste Management.

So I really love the soundtrack for this game... only problem is, I don't remember anything specific happening during the tracks I'm listening to.

For some other game soundtracks, listening to the music really takes me back to the time when they were playing in the game. I wonder if the music just wasn't loud enough in Space Marine

I didnt realize people were looking forward to the multiplayer so much, I bought the game exclusively for the single player and was rather disappointed with only 4 hours of gameplay time :(

I got ten hours out of it. What, did you quit halfway through?

Melissia wrote:I got ten hours out of it. What, did you quit halfway through?

I got about the same. I could see trying to purposely speed through it on easy to gain the achievements/trophies on easy and having it take 4 hours but not a first time story playthrough. Especially with all the damn empty hallways and elevators...

Also, for the first time since I got this game, I was unable to find a single multiplayer seize ground game to play in the US primetime period. Combined with the fact that the game isn't even in the top 20 games played last week doesn't bode well for a new release. :(

http://majornelson.com/category/top-live/

I want a space marine 2

This time with a longer/better campaign

warboss wrote:

Melissia wrote:I got ten hours out of it. What, did you quit halfway through?

I got about the same. I could see trying to purposely speed through it on easy to gain the achievements/trophies on easy and having it take 4 hours but not a first time story playthrough. Especially with all the damn empty hallways and elevators...

Also, for the first time since I got this game, I was unable to find a single multiplayer seize ground game to play in the US primetime period. Combined with the fact that the game isn't even in the top 20 games played last week doesn't bode well for a new release. :(

http://majornelson.com/category/top-live/

Not really. That top twenty list hasnt' changed that much from a similar list I saw five years ago. The only real newcomers here are Dead Island and Red Dead Redemption. For the others, only the numbers changed. The game had good sales regardless, and Relic's DLC sales for Retribution were quite good, so they likely want to try more DLC sales for Space Marine.

It's actually doing fairly decently on Steam, whose own top played lists don't change much either (CS, CS:S, TF2, Civilization, Fallout, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, Call of Duty, etc are regulars there as well).

Melissia wrote:Not really. That top twenty list hasnt' changed that much from a similar list I saw five years ago. The only real newcomers here are Dead Island and Red Dead Redemption. For the others, only the numbers changed. The game had good sales regardless, and Relic's DLC sales for Retribution were quite good, so they likely want to try more DLC sales for Space Marine.

It's actually doing fairly decently on Steam, whose own top played lists don't change much either (CS, CS:S, TF2, Civilization, Fallout, Left 4 Dead 1 and 2, Call of Duty, etc are regulars there as well).

While I can't comment on Steam as I only have a single game with them, I do follow the Major Nelson blog weekly. New games that do sell well but don't have an established multiplayer community tend to break that top twenty and then slide off as people finish the campaigns and tire of the limited multiplayer within the first month or so (and occasionally bounce back on if large DLC is released). Either way, we should know if it was in the top 10 selling hardcopy games of September for all platforms in about a week when the NPD data is published.