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**Drk_Oblitr8r**

DaKKaLAnce wrote:
Extreaminatus wrote:
It's from Faeit.

Take it with a sea of salt.

Yeah it just seems unlikely that De would lose their LoW

What, Revenant Titan go OOP?

**Colpicklejar**

Why does GW love soulblaze so much?

If Warriors can just upgrade to Trueborn, does that mean we have trueborn troops? Does it also mean that Trueborn are subject to the same special weapons restrictions as Warriors, making them suck horribly?

**Metalhed2434**

How can there be no Vect!?!?! They have the possibility of making an amazing model/vehicle combo that I am sure they could charge out the ass for and still sell tons of them. Did anyone ever find out what that "Mystery item" was that was rumored a few weeks ago? The one that was "$4.00 less than the cost of 3 terminator packs" or something worded similarly stupid... This will crush me.

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These Rumors are killing me....I NEED SOLID ANSWERS!!!!

**wuestenfux**

Less special characters. This is in line with tne new GK codex.

**Nvs**

What a let down if true. Whole release is kinda meh.

If the guy really has the codex it would be nice if he could expand on the void raven since a new kit with the same rules makes it a pointless addition.

So much about my hopes of next week having Incubi, a combo kit with a super heavy type unit/dais :(

**Ovion**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Ovion wrote:
Might have preordered the Archon edition....
So I can let you know what's in it as soon as it arrives in a week or so!
Ordered from where? lol

FLGS.
They're going to order it as soon as it goes up tomorrow. (And I'm going to call them to make sure).

MongooseMatt wrote:Okay, got the White Dwarf, and reading it thoroughly. With regards to the battle report, I am thinking/seeing the following;

1. The Wyches and Beasts are not part of the same unit. That dream has gone.
meh

2. The three Talos and one Cronos _seem_ to be a single choice (Heavy Support, presumably).
Yes please.

3. Voidravens appear to be Heavy Support, the Razorwing Fast Attack, _if_ this army is battle-forged (there are three detachments, so I am presuming so).
Holy crap I hope so.

4. As for the result of the battle report, the Dark Eldar got first turn and started with all three Voidravens on the table rather than having them wait for reserves (a special one-off scenario rule, not a Codex one). Meanwhile the Guard have their Tempestus units, plus Valkyries and a bunch of Ogryns arriving in Turn 3. Don't know if the points values are equal, but if they are...
meh

5. Deployment - no one here would deploy as the Guard player did by choice. Leman Russ as close as possible to the enemy? When your objective is to keep your side of the table clear of enemy units?
meh

6. Reading between the lines, i think I see how Feel no Pain works. As said here earlier, they get new benefits every turn.

Turn 1 - Nothing
Turn 2 - Furious Charge, I would guess by the descriptions in the text.
Turn 3 - Feel no Pain for _every_ Dark Eldar on the table.
Turn 4: Not sure yet. If FC is not turn 2, it is here.
Turn 5: Fearless.

If you have a Haemonculus with you (or Urien is close), that unit is effectively a turn ahead. Or maybe, just maybe, the _effect_ is improved by the presence of a Haemonculus. So, Furious Charge gets +2 S, FnP gets 4+. All a bit ambiguous.
Interesting, but will have to wait to see how it plays out and how Haems / Covens affect it...

7. Voidravens get some sort of Jink that does not affect their firing. Maybe. Again, a bit ambiguous there.
Probably flickers, and they just call it dodging tbh.

8. The Archon and Incubi gets ambushed by Ogryns and has to be rescued by Wyches and Grotesques. Tempted to say no change there then...
That's... wierd... the Str4+ AP2 strikes should massacre the Ogryns.

9. Void Mine we have heard about, killing a whole guard unit. However, it should be noted that, elsewhere in the battle, one gets dropped (with precision, they say) on Ogryns, killing just one and wounding another, and a third gets dropped on a Guard Command Squad, killinga bunch but leaving the commander and medic alive. So, not all powerful.
Kinda too vague to tell sadly.

Remember, all just my interpretation of the battle report text, few actual rules are mentioned!

Is interesting...
I'm kinda locked in now. Just gotta hope it doesn't suck.

**jimkurtjimmy**

Losing the duke although expected is going to make me very sad. But we can't lose vect. I mean he is our Calgar/grimnar/azrael. Does GW disdain money and dark eldar that much?

**Hulksmash**

Yeah, I'm not buying that a dude got a codex before they have even started taking pre-orders.

**dan2026**

They wouldn't get rid of Vect.

He's their big boss man. Why on earth would he be gone?

**rollawaythestone**

I'm a bit skeptical too. That guy with the 'Codex' contradicts what was pulled out the White Dwarf (although, granted, this is all kind of fuzzy info). On Turn 2 is it FnP 6+ or Furious Charge like the WD said?

**Sinful Hero**

Haven't all new codexes included a Lord of War? I wouldn't sweat anything from Faeit too much.

**angelofvengeance**

Sinful Hero wrote:
Haven't all new codexes included a Lord of War? I wouldn't sweat anything from Faeit too much.

Was about to say Faeit= please bring salt lol

**Exergy**

Sinful Hero wrote:
Haven't all new codexes included a Lord of War? I wouldn't sweat anything from Faeit too much.

maybe lelith is the LoW

**Metalhed2434**

Yeah, let's see a photo...If you have a dex you could have a photo posted just as quick as writing a big huge post like that. God, Idk why I get so worked up!

**Exergy**

Colpicklejar wrote:
Why does GW love soulblaze so much?

because they wrote the rule and want to hand it out a lot. Perhaps in 8th it will be totally awesome.

Colpicklejar wrote:

If Warriors can just upgrade to Trueborn, does that mean we have trueborn troops? Does it also mean that Trueborn are subject to the same special weapons restrictions as Warriors, making them suck horribly?

They could have different weapon options for the upgrade or non upgraded. Or they could just suck. You never know.

**Saldiven**

Hulksmash wrote:
Yeah, I'm not buying that a dude got a codex before they have even started taking pre-orders.

It's not impossible (though admittedly unlikely). The local FLGS got the Dwarf Army Book before pre-orders came out. I got a lot of crap over on Bugman's Brewery for a couple of weeks while I was posting info from the book....

**Drk_Oblitr8r**

Preorders are up!

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Codex-Dark-Eldar-Archon-Edition

**Leggy**

Maybe Grotesques are now a monsterous creature LoW, thus solving our lack of LoW choice AND their monopose Finecast problem

**Exergy**

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212

As for the Mandrakes, they lost the 5+inv, but got shrouded + stealth. They also start automatically with baleblast and the only change to it is instead of pinning it's got soul blaze.

They already had stealth. Looks like they still suck, but perhaps a point drop or other equipment would make them viable.

The webway portal now grants you deepstrike to the model, his unit and their transport.

Silly and much less useful, but certainly cleans up the rules.

Clonefield is a 4+ inv save.

simpler, but useless. T3 characters can't take many wounds anyway

Power from Pain gives a set bonus depending upon what round it is, with no other requirements. The bonus's stack, so by the end of the game, your units really have a lot of bonus's.
1. None,
2. Feel No Pain 6+
3. Becomes Feel No Pain 5+
4. Add Furious charge
5. Add Fearless
6. Add Rage

Fearless Turn 5 is alright, but everything else is very meh.

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The voidraven is $115!

It use to only cost 145 points!

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http://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Voidraven-Bomber

It definitly has 2 weapons options, but I only see one bomb

**rollawaythestone**

That Voidraven is really a beautiful model.

Only thing I could really pull out of the Codex preview was that Court of the Archon is still a thing.

**CthuluIsSpy**

Colpicklejar wrote:
Why does GW love soulblaze so much?

To be fair, conceptually it's quite effective, as it inflicts more damage with a single attack.
Unfortunately, there are too many steps for it to become truly effective, and it does not stack.

**Red Corsair**

How the feth is that 115 dollars!

BTW hellions are 13 pts a piece. You can see they start at 65pts, and I assume thats for 5.

**Kanluwen**

Exergy wrote:

The voidraven is $115!

It use to only cost 145 points!

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http://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Voidraven-Bomber

It definitly has 2 weapons options, but I only see one bomb

You're on the Australian site.

The Voidraven is $80 USD.

**Red Corsair**

Kanluwen wrote:
Exergy wrote:

The voidraven is $115!

It use to only cost 145 points!

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http://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Voidraven-Bomber

It definitly has 2 weapons options, but I only see one bomb

You're on the Australian site.

The Voidraven is $80 USD.

yea just noticed that link was for those poor fething aussies.... I was gona say...

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So apparently the coven supplement is only available in the limited editions... Wow.

**Exergy**

Kanluwen wrote:
Exergy wrote:

The voidraven is $115!

It use to only cost 145 points!

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http://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Voidraven-Bomber

It definitly has 2 weapons options, but I only see one bomb

You're on the Australian site.

The Voidraven is $80 USD.

good catch, wonder how I ended up there!

**stubacca**

Why is the print version of the painting guide/codex cheaper than the digital versions...?

The Dark Eldar were potentially my way back into 40K, not anymore, thanks GW!

**DireAvenger20**

There is apparently another source on Faiet confirming the lack of Vect and other info.

http://natfka.blogspot.ca/2014/09/lots-more-dark-eldar-codex-information.html

**Azreal13**

Red Corsair wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Exergy wrote:

The voidraven is $115!

It use to only cost 145 points!

Automatically Appended Next Post:
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Voidraven-Bomber

It definitly has 2 weapons options, but I only see one bomb

You're on the Australian site.

The Voidraven is $80 USD.

yea just noticed that link was for those poor fething aussies.... I was gona say...

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So apparently the coven supplement is only available in the limited editions... Wow.

Initially. That's been the same with the Ork and SW releases.

**Oaka**

If those rumors about the webway portals are true, then I have lost hope that the new codex will offer a unique new army style that might actually get me back into the game.

**Necroagogo**

Why does the Codex have the 'Only available while stocks last' caveat?