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Something that fantasy and Hollywood in general have done a terrible job of portraying is that weapons are, in general, very light. You lose a lot of power if the weapon is too heavy. The only weapons that are actually heavy are the ones intended to use gravity for your force, like a warhammer. Even those are lighter than you would expect.

prices for the weekend (via adeptus astartes on facebook)

(does that mean they'll make more dice/cards if they sell out?)

 EnTyme wrote:
Something that fantasy and Hollywood in general have done a terrible job of portraying is that weapons are, in general, very light. You lose a lot of power if the weapon is too heavy. The only weapons that are actually heavy are the ones intended to use gravity for your force, like a warhammer. Even those are lighter than you would expect.

Yeah, even warhammers are surprisingly light (and much smaller than depicted in fantasy). They get most of their impact power from the speed with which they are swung, rather than from their weight. If you want to swing a hammer into battle you want it to be light or else your swings will be too slow, you will risk injuring yourself and you will tire too quickly.
Of course, given how oversized heroic scale weapons in AoS and 40k are, they would be much heavier than equivalent real-life weapons.

I think the Morathi mini looks cool. Just her left arm could have been posed a bit more elegantly.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:


prices for the weekend (via adeptus astartes on facebook)

(does that mean they'll make more dice/cards if they sell out?)

That's usually what it means, correct.

 HorticulusDK wrote:
The girl casually TURNS INTO A GIANT SNAKE but yeah let's talk about her unrealistic spear holding :p

{nasal voice} I think you will find, sir, that it is in fact the giant snake that turns into the girl {/nasal voice}
She, ah, just has trouble holding it in sometimes…

Wow, I think she may be THE best release of Aos since its launch. What is her story, why does she transform into a giant snake ?

 godardc wrote:
Wow, I think she may be THE best release of Aos since its launch. What is her story, why does she transform into a giant snake ?

She got eaten (not that way) by Slaanesh, then kamehameha’d her way out of his stomach and what do you know, the digestive juices of a twisted god of excess do weird things, so now she’s a giant snake daemon that disguises herself as an ordinary Aelf because she a) hates her new ‘natural’ form and b) doesn’t want to have to remodel her throne room with bigger chairs.

£80 is not too bad a price for two Morathis by recent standards. Very tempted by a daughters of Khaine army.

The weekly release schedule is a bit weird. You'll have to wait a few weeks to buy all of the units in the army, for no good reason.

Maybe they have some data that proves it is more profitable for them to act this way, but if it's not the case, they should go back to the monthly release schedule (especially when it's a new army that get release).

huh. Looks like Golobulus and Nemesis Enforcer had a kid.

Chikout wrote:
£80 is not too bad a price for two Morathis by recent standards. Very tempted by a daughters of Khaine army.

I know right? GW's pricing makes no sense to me. This model is pretty amazing and seems reasonably priced, but then they sell that Malignant Portents box for $140, yet a shadespire box with 5 unique models for $30.... I really wish I understood =/

Chopxsticks wrote:

Chikout wrote:
£80 is not too bad a price for two Morathis by recent standards. Very tempted by a daughters of Khaine army.

I know right? GW's pricing makes no sense to me. This model is pretty amazing and seems reasonably priced, but then they sell that Malignant Portents box for $140, yet a shadespire box with 5 unique models for $30.... I really wish I understood =/

Malign Portents wasn't a box.

It's literally the four different products, at $35 each, with no savings added since it's a "one-click bundle".

 streetsamurai wrote:
How original, they gave them the power from pain from the dark eldar

Before jumping to bash GW, do more than just skim read the content. The buffs go by round, not units killed.

I didn't skim read the content, that how PFP worked in 7th edition, I no longer play 40k, so they might have changed it in 8th edition

Back in 6th (aka the last time DE were any good) individual units accumulated bonuses as they wiped out enemy units.

As for the DoK special rule, I’m going to call it “Power From Khaine”

8th ed. PFP is the same as in 7th, the buff only depends on the game turn. And the first bonus is the same (6+ FNP, for additional rolling all game long).

Did you guys notice Morathi's spear has a greenish glow to it? Like a poisoned blade (as opposed to a magic blade). It's not common for the daughters. Even the Bloodwracks don't have poisoned spears. I wonder if this will impact the rules.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:


prices for the weekend (via adeptus astartes on facebook)

(does that mean they'll make more dice/cards if they sell out?)

Hm, so Morathi is around £60 after discounters? I can certainly live with that.

fresus wrote:
8th ed. PFP is the same as in 7th, the buff only depends on the game turn. And the first bonus is the same (6+ FNP, for additional rolling all game long).

Did you guys notice Morathi's spear has a greenish glow to it? Like a poisoned blade (as opposed to a magic blade). It's not common for the daughters. Even the Bloodwracks don't have poisoned spears. I wonder if this will impact the rules.

Well she is a named character so a magical weapon is highly likely.

Given the cauldron already gave a blanke6 6+ save after the save roll on all DoK models, and a 5+ on Witches, I am quite pleased with this option. It's a "Disgustingly resilient" lite, but we have more models, so I would say it's nice.

 Adam Spielmann wrote:
Given the cauldron already gave a blanke6 6+ save after the save roll on all DoK models, and a 5+ on Witches, I am quite pleased with this option. It's a "Disgustingly resilient" lite, but we have more models, so I would say it's nice.

Didn't they say the Cualdron and other similar major pieces are being reworked - likely in a similar way to how they did large scale changes to Legions of Nagash, pretty much across the board.

Yeah I would bet the save buff is completely gone from the Cauldron.

So Morathi is the same price as Alarielle ? Well okay. She seemed a bit smaller though.

Anyway, on the fluff side of things, I really love the fact that Khaine IS dead (he was too tied to the old WFB pantheon), and that's in fact Morathi the subject of worship in the cult !

Praise the Gods

 HorticulusDK wrote:
So Morathi is the same price as Alarielle ? Well okay. She seemed a bit smaller though.

Anyway, on the fluff side of things, I really love the fact that Khaine IS dead (he was too tied to the old WFB pantheon), and that's in fact Morathi the subject of worship in the cult !

As far as I can tell, the cult members still pray to Khaine, Morathi just steals the juice, which is a very Morathi thing to do.

Cataphract wrote:


Praise the Gods

I really, really hope Malerion ends up looking very different to that artwork. I can get on board with him absorbing some draconic features but that just looks silly. Much rather they played up the 'Shadowy' aspect of his new persona. In my mind I picture something humanoid, armoured like his old image but fused with draconic elements and dark wings bleeding into an insubstantial shadowy mist.

Cataphract wrote:


Praise the Gods

I wonder if Tyrion and Teclis will get new models?

Considering how GW is producing big center piece models, I'd think it's almost a certainty to see new models for Teclis, Tyrion and Malerion.

Anyone knows why Ur-Phoenix isn't counted among the pantheon? Isn't it supposed to be a god beast?

I like how Tyrion and Teclis "tried" to create Aelven races of their own. That implies the possibility of all kinds of things going wrong...

 Knight wrote:
Considering how GW is producing big center piece models, I'd think it's almost a certainty to see new models for Teclis, Tyrion and Malerion.

Anyone knows why Ur-Phoenix isn't counted among the pantheon? Isn't it supposed to be a god beast?

Ur-Phoenix is not a God Beast. I don't think we have a lot of information what that is.

JimmyWolf87 wrote:

I really, really hope Malerion ends up looking very different to that artwork. I can get on board with him absorbing some draconic features but that just looks silly. Much rather they played up the 'Shadowy' aspect of his new persona. In my mind I picture something humanoid, armoured like his old image but fused with draconic elements and dark wings bleeding into an insubstantial shadowy mist.

He's not insubstantial though. The more emotional he gets, the more he can solidify himself into a physical form.