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2014/04/11 05:21:59
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- Terriers and a bit of Deathwatch (4/10/14)
Er... Well then, I guess the Tartan's going to stay then Thanks you guys!
@Theo & Alf: Really its a super simple technique. Takes more time than skill, actually. You dont even need to make the lines particularly straight, as that only adds to the flowing appearance of the fabric.
I've written up a brief little tutorial below. Give it a shot! Worst that can happen is that you get a bit of practice in!
Im always willing to do a painting day, Alf (and WM, iffin you wanted ) I love talking shop, and painting is one of my real joys (even though I do so much of it nowadays xD) Not an exceptional teacher by ant rate, but Im always willing to try!
Terriers got more color. yellow areas are complete now. Metals just got basecoated
I actually only had a little bit of time to paint today, as I got to play my first mission in Deathwatch!
Rather funny how I found the group. The GM was in the store the very same day that Alf and I were playing a practice game of 40k, and we started talking. Fast forward to a bit later and I got myself and my little brother into a campaign
As with anything with optional figures, I had to whip up one for my character- Black Shield Nero of the Deathwatch:
He still needs a jump pack, but I want to try and get a hold of one of the Chapterhouse bits, where it looks like an older mark of pack. I also cant wait till he has enough renown to grab a power sword! Really love the twin weapon fighting- For most of our first encounter he was grappling with a Shrike in mid air xD
I've only a little bit of a concept for his story, but so far the group is promising. As a Black Shield, he has forsaken the ties to his parent chapter because of some misfortune or misdeed, bearing nothing but the black shoulderpad of the Deathwatch. I'm something of a black cat to my party already, as we seem to have wildly fluctuating luck. One moment we're shredding a pair of Tyranid Shrikes, the next we are universally failing to notice Tyranids lying in wait. Certainly a memorable first mission, resulting in us blowing up a Promethium Refinery amid the alien shrieks of Tyranids as we are extracted in a thunderhawk.
My only problem now is that we play every other week! Gonna be killer waiting till next session- Mission briefing states we're gonna need to deorbit a moon
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We refuse to take sides in this anymore. And we refuse to let you turn us against one another. We know who we are now, we can find our own way between order and chaos...
It's over because we've decided it's over. Now get the hell out of our galaxy! Both of you.
"Whoever takes purple sash is purple, and follows purple leader." I follow purple tau. Theophony
2014/04/12 01:32:17
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Terriers and a bit of Deathwatch (4/10/14)
Naw, thats alright Dee! Im working on a bit of an alternative route that I think Im gonna really like. Lots of kitbashing and bit swapping, but no real pics yet... Very much appreciated though!! ^_^
Terriers are about done right now, but cant clearcoat em right now cause its late. Expect those tomorrow!
Heres an older pic (a few hours ago):
I also put more colors on the Wraithlord, including white on the gun and rear "fins".
Decided to experiment with some green flock I bought years ago and never used. At first I thought it would be unusable, but as I read more and more tutorials I played with some alternate techniques. I think ive got a decent way to get a grassy kind of terrain that I think will fit what Cyp was looking at getting at. Add that to some repurposed model trees, and I think we'll have a nice little grasslands base!
whalemusic360 wrote:I wasn't sure you even went this year alf. Didn't see you orange shirting it up the dozen or so times I went by otl.
I wasn't there
Cyporiean wrote:
whalemusic360 wrote: I wasn't sure you even went this year alf. Didn't see you orange shirting it up the dozen or so times I went by otl.
He didn't come, the slacker.
I made the conscious choice to visit TempleCon this year instead of AdeptiCon, depending on how things happen, I'll probably switch back to AdeptiCon next year, or maybe some other show OTL will be at.
Or tell them to pound sand and go to a show as a visitor instead of an exhibitor I mean they'll never find out, no game companies actually read forums.
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2014/04/12 10:56:03
Subject: Rollin' All Ones -- Terriers and a bit of Deathwatch (4/10/14)
We refuse to take sides in this anymore. And we refuse to let you turn us against one another. We know who we are now, we can find our own way between order and chaos...
It's over because we've decided it's over. Now get the hell out of our galaxy! Both of you.
"Whoever takes purple sash is purple, and follows purple leader." I follow purple tau. Theophony
2014/04/12 23:37:56
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- Terriers finished! Now on to Tanuki... (4/12/14)
Gracias!
Slowly but surely I'm starting to get a decent grasp on painting fur. Funny how it all started with a handful of dogs
Today saw the Tanuki Samurai get their furs painted and black/metal areas blocked out.
And the next batch of minis got assembled: Fox Shinobi
Carrying along pretty well otherwise. Wraithlord just needs a little highlighting and an oil wash on the whites before its complete. I've also built up most of my own OtL minis, including Tajir and Kardax, two of my favorite minis so far I've decided to try and paint up the Victoria Lamb Adepticon mini. Its a beauty of a model (chainsword is a bit of a pain to stick on right, tho), but I kinda worry about doing a blah job on it xD
Definitely gonna look into it. Will definitely give me something to watch as I paint after polishing of MST3K! Its interesting to look at how certain Sentai morphed as it came to the US.... Decided to watch a few more intros, including the one which would come to the US as "Power Rangers in Space". Absolutely fascinating.
So I ran out of Brown paint, and starting to run dry on black. Gonna need to swing out to the stores (hopefully tomorrow) and pick more up.
I want the squad to look cohesive but still have individuality in the ranks. As such I'm going to paint their sashes in a matching purple and I've chosen to limit the armor and jacket colors to three variations: Red, Blue, and Black/gunmetal. The rest will be relatively neutral whites and browns.
The one in the middle front row is going to be a small exception to the rule, as I think Im gonna go crazy and give him golden armor. A similar suit came up during my research for these minis, and I really liked the effect it had with black cloth
Also got bases made up for the Foxes and Otters. Nothing spectacular just yet, but its progress
I'm currently looking at experimenting with making Bamboo for the bases using toothpicks and some greenstuff. This should add to the Japan theme as well as set the armies apart for future "in action" shots. If I can manage to do it without overcrowding the miniature, I'll be super pleased!
Is that going to be zen garden sand or "winter duel from Kill Bill" for those bases?
On the Sentai subject....Its also a weird spectrum of 'quality' on each show, They have a number of directors/writers, like any show, but overall one season to the next can be dark to just flat out silly. The episode of Shinkenger that really won me over had: A Dream Rhino monster chasing them with dream boulders + One of the Big-Bad Generals origin story, where she kills the man she loves at his wedding to someone else, turning herself into a demon. I'll let you in on a secret to what won me over...It wasn't the Dream Rhino.
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2014/04/16 03:41:51
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- Tanuki, Devlan Mud, and Zen (4/15/14)
Originally, the bases were planned to be painted in earthy tones (using a warmer brown than the bugs and Terriers), then having bamboo sticking out of some of them plus whatever light green clump foliage I happened to have on hand. Now that you say Zen garden... Well, more down below.
Re: Sentai... Iiiinteresting. Though that situation is one of those that seems insane taken out of context xD Its rather remarkable, but a lot of the effects I've seen thus far (especially in the intros, as thats what Ive mostly seen) could be considered super cheesy or "bad" if it was made stateside. Culture here seems to be "realistic or get out", opposed to i guess what you could call a "more fantastical" take ala the Sentai. The bizzarre effects seem to really add to its feel as a show- Really strikes me as reflecting the same aspects of the culture as Anime. I think Im starting to really look forward to watching this stuff
Dont think I should do it while painting, though. i tend to run things as white noise in the background, so I'm likely to miss a lot of the experience. That and I'll need to be reading the subs lest I want to be completely lost!
So today i was incredibly uninspired as far as painting went, so I putzed around the house and later went shopping for, among other things, black and dark brown paint. I ended up with a VMC color called "German Camo Black Brown." Darker than scorched brown, but it looks like a more natural and balanced brown overall. I'm really pleased with it thus far.
After dinner, I felt a little more like painting, so i slapped on the brown and gold on the Tanuki and gave everything a wash of Devlan Mud.
Words cannot describe how much I have missed my Mud wash. Its just such an amazing product!! Perfect color balance and flow properties for what I want to do with it... And now I have 2 and a half whole bottles, thanks to the amazing Nerdfest!
Thanks a ton, nerd!!! You are a saint among painters!
Anyways, Getting back to the Zen garden talk, I really started to reconsider my basing options on these Ribenguo minis. My ultimate goal is to make each army with a different base scheme and really drive the point across on what belongs where. Already i have an arid badlands theme for the Cult of Exomorphism and a grassy scheme for the Axony minis (like the terriers). In both cases, its a brown earth base ringed in brown, almost too close to each other were it not for the addition of greenery on the Terrier basing. And so I pondered....
Thats when i thought of it: Zen Garden. Distinctly Japanese in flavor, with tons of opportunity to go wild in details to make them stand out (even some bamboo!). The bases would give me all new colors to work with, basing the sand in grayish blues and rimming the base with a light gray. Plus if I was going to get to do a Zen garden theme, it was going to be this army or nothing!
On my shopping trip today, I picked up two new materials to attempt to capture the look and feel of a Zen Garden. The first is GOLDEN's Coarse Pumice Gel, recommended to me for desert basing by misterjustin of Secret Weapon miniatures fame. The second, Liquitex Coarse texture Gel. I set forth on my mission, applying them to a large base from one of my EFT Trolls (just happened to have it closest at hand xD )
The unraked and mounded area is a test on how the gel will serve as a desert base. Needs a few touches, but I think I can get something workable.
The light white is the Liquitex stuff- Nowhere near as coarse as the Pumice Gel, and its much more fluid, so the rake marks didnt stay (probably could have let it set a bit more, but eh). Not particularly awesome for the Zen effect, but I think it definitely has some potential as a sandy base material for beaches or even the desert basing i want to do. The Pumice is far coarser, making it good for gravel, but it may be too much for the kind of windswept desert i envision.
I am very heavily considering rebasing the Tanuki and redoing the rest of the plaster bases in the Zen theme.... Pending approval from Cyp, of course!
I'll give this base a test prime job once it fully cures, and as soon as the weather stops being insane! Perfect spring weather the past coupla days, and today BOOM! Snow!
Im through with the white stuff... Bring on the Spring!
Maybe maybe... Im sure I could start working on a few odd little bases here and there. The minecart bases may be as good a place as any to start- I know some people were asking about it on the Beastmen. We'll play it by ear
Today, Bamboo floors!
To pull slightly away from the Zen garden theme, we decided to introduce some bamboo floors, bringing it to more of a Dojo-esque theme (though Im still putting in my raked sand )
So I set to work experimenting.
First thing I did was to find round toothpicks. These had the silly little frills on the one end, which is why you see bits of blue still left on.
Those points need to go, so I cut them off around where the stick starts to taper. You must keep in mind that bamboo is generally cylindrical in shape as it grows, unlike trees which taper up.
With my bamboo "blanks," I then etched lines in them by rolling them against a cutting mat with a shaping tool. You can use just about any hard-edged tool, from the back of an exacto knife to the back of a razor saw- the key is that it is a relatively dull hard edged tool. You want to score the lines, not cut the stick in half!
Repeat every so random distance, making some spaces longer and some shorter. Bamboo is natural, so randomness is exactly what you want!
Once you have a collection of mini bamboo, just smack em together and youve got your floor!
Now to experiment on an actual base! Then, probably, the rest of the minis!
All the bases for the Ribenguo forces have been redone in the dojo/gardens style. Gravel needs touch ups here and there, but overall, not too shabby!
Pumice gel takes forever to dry though!
Looks good dude!I love the bases with the bamboo, that's something I may attempt for something special down the line! really cool stuff! ;-)
Hey, did you get the Devlan Mud wash I sent? should certainly have got there by now if the customs workers haven't nicked it wondering why i'm mailing small pots containing the pure scent of Satans anus?
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2014/04/18 13:39:20
Subject: Re:Rollin' All Ones -- Tanuki, Devlan Mud, and Zen (4/15/14)
Ramos Asura wrote: .... Words cannot describe how much I have missed my Mud wash. Its just such an amazing product!! Perfect color balance and flow properties for what I want to do with it... And now I have 2 and a half whole bottles, thanks to the amazing Nerdfest!
Thanks a ton, nerd!!! You are a saint among painters! .....
So yeah, dude. Received and infinitely grateful!! Absolutely love this stuff!
Alright, so after a busy couple of days, I didnt get as far as I'd of liked on my minis. Between visiting my Grandma and some really bizarre 24-hour flu (got really congested last night, then it cleared up this morning), I havent been able to paint all that much!
Today, however, I got more forward progress! The bamboo bases are painted up now (bear in mind, some of the paints took on a little shine. It'll all get matte varnish after the minis are finished!):
And the Tanuki have settled in comfortably:
At this stage, they're about half-way done. Theyd probably have been finished by now were it not for my rebasing them all xD
Lets see how much more I can get done tonight!
Thanks you guys!
) I love talking shop, and painting is one of my real joys (even though I do so much of it nowadays xD) Not an exceptional teacher by ant rate, but Im always willing to try!
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