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TBH most of the Ice Angel names are unfamiliar enough that I don't associate them with either a first or last name. I guess in my mind recruits (at least in my chapter, Badab War or earlier) would adopt or be given a Legion name once they were made full marines. Post badab war I'm having the marines keep their own names (thus the Asian influence in my later marines). No reason for it really, just the way I do it.

In general... I almost look at it as how pastors or priests go about it. Formally, you may have parishioners refer to "Pastor Jones" but informally it might be "Pastor Dave"... but the "pastor" part is always there. Whether you use the first or last name has less to do with church doctrine and more to do with each individual's view on how formal the pastor/parishioner relationship should be.

In a military situation, I think the form of address would be codified and not left up to each individual to make the decision... but I think either way would be acceptable.

People tend to have first and last names no matter where they're from, so if they became marines and kept their names, they'd probably have two. If they took on a new name, they would probably only be given one, due to there be no need for a last name to differentiate two people with the same name. As for first or last name, I think Gits has the gist of it, that it depends on the individuals.

Of course, even if they were only given one name, it is conceivable that they would accrue nicknames, or epithets to add on to their one name. The Space Wolves, for example, have one name and then some description of the person, i.e. Redmane, Blackmane, Rockfist, etc. You might also see more tribal chapters taking the names of slain enemies and adding them on, which could be some interesting note about that chapter's culture.

Given that the Ice Angel recruits come from two areas, one of which is tribal and the other which is industrial, maybe I should try to incorporate some more name stuff into my fluff. I've already gone with the idea that they've kept their original names from before they were astartes. Maybe the tribal guys use their first name and the industrial guys go by their last names. Certainly gives me something to think about.

Names like Razzik and Philosir sound more like last names, where as Attikusu and Bel Hando sound more like first names.

prime12357 - i like the idea of taking names from the slain. Something I always really enjoyed are the full names of Custodians and how they add more titles to their names after deeds they've done. I do feel though as if its to late for me to add something like that in for my chapter. As much as I'd like to I'm not sure I could get away with adding new characters or unveiling titles to some of the characters we're already accustomed too. I may be able to get away with one title.............

Wow, I stopped typing for ten minutes while my brain went into overtime thinking about that one.

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Its not like you could'nt do the "taking names thing" with a particular charactor though (if you still have one to add that is?)

A troll of this page and RL friend of mine inadvertently reminded me of several Ice Angels that technically do have "given" names. However, non of those characters are in my story. I may have to include one of them at some point.

For me all Space Marines are given a name once they are accepted into the brotherhood. The name they are referred to is a first name with thier origin being their second name. For Instance My Chapter Name may be Toast and I heralded from England so I would be Toast England but referred to simply as Toast.

Just my tuppence worth.

Philosir sounds like a first name to me, cuz of the Phil part. Philosir sounds like a psykers first name, cuz it sounds like philosopher, which is kinda magicy

Nemesor wrote:Philosir sounds like a first name to me, cuz of the Phil part. Philosir sounds like a psykers first name, cuz it sounds like philosopher, which is kinda magicy

You know, I never thought of that. Philosir sounds even more fitting now. Funny how things work out sometimes.

I'm getting withdrawals from your story Ice, please, anything. Keep me sane!

Its true, Knightly is getting desperate. The other night I found him huddled in a corner trying to mainline ICEangel fluff.

Ah drug humor, its messed up.

Thing is, Knightley is not the only one...I see a post here and I hurry to open the thread for new stories but...I only see Knightley and 1-i :( The disappointment...(no offense guys )

N E E D M O R E S T O R Y...the suspense is killing!

Don't know how much longer I can wait!

Don't worry guys, I'm not dead yet. However, I did have a life changing event. Several days ago I am became a dad. Good news for me, not so good news for you guys, lol.

If it does make you feel any better I have managed to write several sentences since then, but having him around will cut back on my writing time a bit. I do promise to keep on writing my Ice Angel fluff though. There is still more to explore and more marines to kill!

Dude congrats!!
No worries on a slower pace- Your kid needs ya more!

Just remember to start them on 40k early

Congratulations! Don't worry too much about updating, you've got more important things to do

Congratulations from me as well ! ! !

 prime12357 wrote:
Don't worry too much about updating, you've got more important things to do

QFT

As a father of two Im allowed to say your excuse is not valid. Nevermind the fact that you have better things to do I have precsios internet time and I demand it be filled by your stories. Your child will have plenty of umrememerable moments in the next two years so you can completly focus on yourself and being as selfish as I need you to be.



PS. If for one second you really act as selfish as Ive memtioned then I will drive down to your house late at night and you will forever be a good father under pain of true suffering. Enjoy the sleeplesss nights, you should have plenty.

Captain Razzik lightly jogged down the ever descending tunnel. His HUD illuminated the growing tunnel system that Philosir’s servo skulls quickly explored. Commander Vetov ran beside him, his bionic leg gave off a faint whine with every long stride.

After only half an hour the tunnel complex had been vastly explored by the servo skulls. The giant worms had turned the standard drill pattern into a chaotic mess of interwoven tunnels and dangerous caverns. Dead ends were darkened in his HUD and many servo skulls were already doubling back. A large chamber was highlighted by a soft gray icon and as he ran towards the distant room Squad Rimsin confirmed servo skull 12398’s initial findings.

With super human speed orders were sent and blips from the tactical units in the tunnels showed the change of movement of his men. All of them were now moving at full speed towards the chamber. With no regard for stealth the Ice Angels thundered down the tunnels. The echoes of power armored boots hitting rock filled the wide melta bore pathways.

After rounding another bend Razzik and Vetov came across an expansive gateway chamber. Reactivated glow globes floated lazily near the ceiling of the chamber. Excavating equipment still lay strewn about, many of which were heavily damaged. A dozen chutes opened beneath them and one excavator lay on its side, partially consumed by a hole. The bodies of quadruped avian creatures dotted the chamber and small flying beasts occasionally darted from tunnel to tunnel above their corpses.

Squad Rah-Apsu was beginning its descent into one of the holes. Squad Kujara entered from a side tunnel and ran towards the same hole but instead of entering they began to move equipment and excavating machinery to form a defensive perimeter around the chute. Two of the marines stood over the hole with bolters raised.

The final member of Squad Rah-Apsu began his descent as Razzik and Vetov arrived. Mi-Luqua Vaz, of the Kujara unit, stood over the chute watching the ceiling for enemy swarms. Razzik and Vetov mag locked their shields and quickly followed after the climbing squad. The angle of the tunnel was nearly vertical but very rough and easy to scale for the super human marines.

The growl of an excavator’s engine rumbled above them as they climbed. Captain Razzik could already imagine what the chamber will look like when he returns. Clear firing lanes and an easily defensible position. Already the map on his HUD was being altered as the marines blocked off tunnels with the equipment and pushed the damaged machinery into tunnels to limit the number of entrances.

Razzik could hear the thump of marines landing on rock below him as he climbed and after only a few more handholds he too pushed away from the wall and fell the final few meters to where the tunnel was flat enough to run instead of climb. Vetov landed next to him half a breath later and the two marines were once again running at full speed through the tunnel’s darkness.

The map in Razzik’s HUD minimized and slid to the side as images from Squad Rimsin and several servo skulls took over. Razzik already had a partial tactical lay out of the vast subterranean chamber before he had arrived.

Squad Rah-Apsu was behind boulders and rubble in prime elevated position to provide cover with their two heavy bolters. The marines from Rimsin were further in the chamber spaced between more rocks and a heavily damaged transport vehicle. Razzik and Vetov ran full speed up a final incline as they left the tunnel and entered the cavern. With precise timing Rimsin advanced and the members from Rah-Apsu broke from cover to provide fire if needed.

As the marines advanced, Razzik concentrated on the bizarre lay out of the cavern. All of the tunnels and the man made entrance were contained to the end in which he entered. The middle section of the room was vastly different and the other end was swathed in darkness that he couldn’t yet discern. No servo skull had passed through the darkness and returned.

Racks of large vertical cylinders lined the floor; each was large enough to house one of the massive burrowing worms. Along the walls were rows of cages. A thick chemical smell emanated from the banks of those dark containers. Syringes and vials lined the edges of every surface of the cages. Long cords descended from each cage and wound further into the cavern through the blackness. The racks seemed to extend out from the curtain of darkness at the other end of the cavern. A lone crystal floated amidst the murky wall of darkness. The powerful light from the crystal easily illuminated the cavern before him, yet no shred of light pierced the darkness that held the embedded crystal.

Razzik slowed as he past the first tall cylinder. Vetov was right behind him. The members of Rimsin were advancing down other pathways between the cylinders. The tall canisters blocked all lines of sight between him and his other marines, only his HUD gave him any idea of where his marines were.

Above the rows of cylinders and wall cages, the brightly glowing crystal larger then Razzik’s chest floated. Razzik’s attention was drawn to it as he approached. It was well out of his reach and gave off a faint hum.

A red rune flashed in Razzik’s HUD. He reflexively raised his shield. Zaduga, a member of Squad Rimsin, flashed the red sword, meaning he has an enemy contact. Captain Razzik expected to hear gun fire as he pulled up Zaduga’s helmet cams, but the shot never came.

Zaduga was in one of the outer most paths between cylinders and the cages. The cages were stacked three high and in one of the bottom row cages a quadruped bird was laying prone. Its breathing was labored and it was in a pool of ichors. A lithe harness was draped over the bird and wires snaked out of it into a panel near the cages door.

“Leave it,” Sergeant Shar-Takazz commanded.

“Wise choice Sergeant,” Razzik added before removing his feed from Zaduga. Razzik gazed up at the floating crystal once again. He took several more steps before coming to the last cylinder in the row.

The crystal above him pulsed with a dark inner light yet it exuded a cleansing yellow light throughout the cavern. His gaze switched from the crystal towards the curtain of darkness before him. Captain Razzik leaned forward to get a closer look. Upon closer inspection the vertical sheet in front of him seemed to wave and shift like oil over a pond.

“Captain, “Vetov softly interrupted.

Razzik looked back at the Emperor’s Tear, and stepped aside. Vetov focused on the wall as he approached and plunged through the wall of darkness. Captain Razzik hesitated before opening up a private channel with Vetov. He had expected the marine to scan the wall or throw something through it first, not walk right into it. The wall had enveloped the marine with out noise or any visual change.

For several seconds Razzik held his breath, expecting his vox to crackle or some sort of signal yet none came. A feeling of dread began to ooze through his being. What happened to Vetov? Why wasn’t he responding? Why did he do that? What idiot would see an unknown xenos murky wall of darkness and walk right through it. Razzik began to feel his surprise and shock turn into anger.

He could feel his agitation begin to manifest physically as he opened and closed his white powerfist. As he contemplated his next tactical orders the chest and head of Vetov leaned through the shadowed wall.

“Next room is clear. Vox doesn’t pass through the portal Captain. I suggest a relay unit.” Vetov spoke before leaning back through the curtain.

As the torso of Vetov disappeared back into the wall the build up of agitation dissipated, yet a shred of annoyance still lingered. “Rah-Apsu, hold your position. Rimsin and Kujara advance,” Razzik thought to himself as he issued orders with simple vox symbols. His HUD was already responding as affirmations and movement could be seen as marines disappeared through the black curtain. Servo skulls streamed overhead.

“Plafwu, we will need you at the black wall to provide a relay, vox cannot pass through the barrier.” Razzik reevaluated his orders and waited for confirmation from Squad Plafwu, they were still advancing from else where in the tunnel system. Razzik patiently waited for a response and while he did he thought about Vetov. What was it about that marine that was getting to him?

A simple affirmative crossed his HUD from Sergeant Maranu of Squad Plafwu, he calculated an estimated arrival time and once again examined the curtain wall. Satisfied with his commands he stepped into the murky wall of darkness.

Oooh.. a long awaited update, I'm honored!

I really liked the use of the HUD information in this passage, I can totally see marines conducting tactics using this as a tool.

Now the big question...

Is it a portal they've gone through, or is it a blanking device designed to keep something in?

Oooooh, good question Knightley.

Before I forget, I'd like to thank everybody for the great comments before my previous post. Thanks for viewing my fluff over 20,000 times as well!

Its so addicting! Its my new drug. Thanks Ice.

Is it even possible to be addicted Literature?

Literature Readers Anonymous?
or
Ice Angel Readers Anonymous?

Ice's Reading Anonymous group... but what would the acronym be....

Well deserved Ice. It's riveting! Pretty intense installment, even if it is a "quiet" one.

First sentence, second PPH. I'm not sure that "vastly" is the best word to use there. Sounds a bit odd to me.

 Gitsplitta wrote:

First sentence, second PPH. I'm not sure that "vastly" is the best word to use there. Sounds a bit odd to me.

Yeah, I was thinking that. Apart from that, it's another fantastic installment.

I'd totally join the IRA

Awesome installment, way to go building up tension!!! Cant wait for the next one...

wait...

I always say that...IRA huh?

Yeah, I think I suffer from that too...

I've got a better name for the reading group. Ice RAG "Ice's Reading Anonymous Group"?




Interested in joining?
Reply to this comment and you'll get the same access to all of my writings! A giant thank you AND an occasional responses in this thread from me, ICEANGEL.

BUT WAIT, there's more. If you respond in the next 48 hours I'll make you an honorary member and you'll be assigned a number in Ice RAG. You can then add it into your DAKKA signature and have one more piece of random information to share with the world.

SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE!

Well get on typing folks, there are only so many numbers that can be used for Ice RAG. Make sure you get one of the good ones.

Operators are standing by.

Respond now!

Yes, I want to be on Ice's Rag....

Wait whats that in the distance? It looks like the gutter....

Me too!

What's that scraping sound? Is this the bottom of the barrel?

I will gladly stand on the shoulders of Gits in the new barrel of addicts.

Hey, hey! speak for yourselves, I can stop whenever I want!

Also, any updates coming, Ice? I [i]need[i/] an update....