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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
I read somewhere that it WILL have a major impact.

If you've read the latest issue, you might start to see how, why and via who - but maybe not?

As you say, I have a hard time believing it will have a lasting impact at all, no matter what they say.

But who knows - they may surprise us in the end!


I hadn't heard that - that's good then.

I don't read Superior Spider-Man. Is the Spider-Man in this mini The Amazing Spider-Man or The Superior Spider-Man?

Superior.
They established it was superior in a tie-in issue.

   
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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Because it's an obvious alternate timeline I'm having a tough time caring what's happening because I know it's going to be undone in the end anyway.


I get tired of comments like this. When nothing happens people complain that nothing changed. Then something changes people complain that the change is bad, or that it's just going to go back the way it was.

Comics are about the status quo. I thought we would have all accepted this by now? What's old is new again, and then will be old, and then new. It's a cycle.

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No, some comics are about the status quo. Many have dynamic ongoing stories or even an end. Even the big 2 which have the most status quo have titles like that.


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Besides I wasn't even talking about that but rather AoU's irrelevance in relation to the main Marvel universe. It seems more like an extended "what if" story than an "Event".

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Because it's an obvious alternate timeline I'm having a tough time caring what's happening because I know it's going to be undone in the end anyway.


I get tired of comments like this. When nothing happens people complain that nothing changed. Then something changes people complain that the change is bad, or that it's just going to go back the way it was.

Comics are about the status quo. I thought we would have all accepted this by now? What's old is new again, and then will be old, and then new. It's a cycle.


I don't accept it and I don't buy comics that do.

Not all comics lack dynamic characters. In fact, what made those characters
interesting in the first place was their change from one thing to another.

Marvel's entire mutant franchise is based on an adolescent coming of age
storyline where you wake up one morning and have hair in places you
never had before.

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RVA

The distinction is not between static and dynamic characters. It's more about the difference between "hard" and "soft" continuity.

   
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 Manchu wrote:
The distinction is not between static and dynamic characters. It's more about the difference between "hard" and "soft" continuity.


I know "soft" continuity is what keeps superhero comics in business, but I
got tired of it after awhile. I don't see the appeal anymore and now follow
books if it looks like they will have "hard" continuity (and a potential finale).

My favorite comics fall along this line, Transmetropolitan, Invisibles, 100 Bullets.


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What's that even mean? What's the difference between the two? Is it when the yolk is solid?

 
   
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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
What's that even mean? What's the difference between the two? Is it when the yolk is solid?


I think it's a term that Manchu put together from the conversation.

My guess is a hard continuity makes changes permanent.

A soft one allows for retcons and resets.

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RVA

Yep, thats what I meant.

   
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 Alpharius wrote:
I read somewhere that it WILL have a major impact.

If you've read the latest issue, you might start to see how, why and via who - but maybe not?



I have now:

Spoiler:
Hank Pym? That's ok by me, not a fan of his. Although he also indirectly created Vision and he's quite important too.


This is really going to screw up the old space-time continuum!

 
   
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Any word on when Spidey will change back? Can't be that long now.
   
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I'd say another 6 months to a year to go - though I'd be happier with a 'sooner rather than later' option!
   
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Hey anybody know anything about this Judge Dredd Classics published by IDW? Looks interesting. Is it actually the original stories?

What about this Judge Dredd: Year one?

 
   
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 Anung Un Rama wrote:
Any word on when Spidey will change back? Can't be that long now.

Hehe.

Spoiler:
Based on the ending to #10 it's going to be a long time till anything happens.


Also, I picked up the first 4 issues of Cable & X-Force, which is quite enjoyable at the moment. I need to get to the comic shop to pick up #5 onwards, but it seems fun at the moment.

Deadpool Killustrated finished, which was quite amusing, if a bit of a dark ending.

Picked up Thanos Rising #1 and #2, which are actually doing rather well to fill out his backstory and make him somewhat less of a flat out "evil" character, twisted and deranged maybe, but not entirely evil.

My younger brother got convinced by me to try comics, and he picked up the TPB of All New X-Men #1-5, however I've no idea whether he's even read it yet as we're about 150Km away from each other at the moment.

I also got lent AvX in exchange for lending a freind X-Men Legacy, and I have to say that I rather enjoyed it. It was quite interesting seeing characters that I am currently reading, where presently they may be damaged or broken or angry, and seeing the events that led up to where they are now.

   
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RVA

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Is it actually the original stories?
Yep and in color. There's also an original monthly. Year One is also ostensibly original but I hear it's pretty boring.

   
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HAs anyone gone back to a comic they read as a kid thinking it was awesome and then read it and gone meh?

I just did this with grendel (christine spar) i got about 3 in assorted comico grab bags in the 80sish. I ordered the collection of that storyline recently, and well, i think my fascination with it must have pretty much come down to one awesome panel.
Big
BIG
letdown.

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I had the same experience with Grendel.

   
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 Manchu wrote:
 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Is it actually the original stories?
Yep and in color. There's also an original monthly. Year One is also ostensibly original but I hear it's pretty boring.


Yes, I saw there is a new ongoing series too that's around issue #9. Is it any good?

I'm going to get the classic series. I hope it's good.

 
   
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RVA

It's okay, it's nothing that you MUST read as JD fan or otherwise. I subscribed to the JD Megazine for a couple of years recently and I like IDW's monthly better than it.

   
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Read all 4 issues of Deadpool kills the marvel universe last night.

Kind of dissapointed. It was way to short to properly convey everything that was going on and in the end just came off as being an half assed story.
   
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 Soladrin wrote:
Read all 4 issues of Deadpool kills the marvel universe last night.

Kind of dissapointed. It was way to short to properly convey everything that was going on and in the end just came off as being an half assed story.

I haven't read that, Deadpool Killustrated follows on from it, and is very enjoyable, mainly for how odd it is as a concept.

   
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Canterbury

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fut9DHWzi50

just perfect.

swears etc so

The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
 
   
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Canterbury

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/comics/news/a481554/young-justice-crowdfunding-campaign-launches.html


Young Justice has launched its crowdfunding campaign.

SMGO.tv is seeking $10 million to fund a third season of the cancelled DC Nation show.

The '#YJ - Let's prove them wrong' campaign launched yesterday with an extended 82-day window. The average Kickstarter campaign lasts either a month or 60 days.

The extras include various special edition DVD sets of the series should it be made.

SMGO.tv previously reported that DC Entertainment had refused its plans to crowdfund Young Justice and its fellow cancelled show Green Lantern: The Animated Series, before revealing that it had been given the go-ahead to attempt one campaign.

The campaign has currently raised $24,550 - 0.2% of its goal.

The defunct Veronica Mars television show recently became Kickstarter's most successful project when it gained funding for a movie sequel.


.. good luck to'em.... $10M .. whoa !

The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
 
   
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Probably not going to happen, but kudos for the having the brass to ask for 10 mil!
   
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I know no one will probably believe me but Avengers Arena is surprisingly good...

 
   
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Canterbury

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/05/16/grant-morrison-wants-to-make-a-superhero-out-of-you/

ah hell yeah !



At a Warner Bros Burbank event to celebrate Grant Morrison’s work at DC (including Action Comics biscuits, right), he talked about the upcoming Multiversity series. And how it is intended to turn the reader into a superhero.

Oh balls, I’m just going to cut and paste and bold out some rather intriguing bits from MTV’s report…

Discussing the structure of “Multiversity” and its forty-page nine issue run, Morrison says the first and last issue, ostensibly bookends, act as an “80-page giant DC super-spectacular story, in between which we have seven comics, each of which come from a different parallel universe, so they all have a slightly different trade dress…a different storytelling approach…each one is drawn by a different artist.” Briefly discussing the history of the DC multiverse, wherein each alternate reality vibrates at a frequency slightly out of phase with the other earths, Morrison gushes over the idea of “comic book universes as music”, a concept he played with in Final Crisis. “When you hear them all together they make the most beautiful music you’ve ever heard, and you can choose whatever [music] you want that to be.”

Going back to the classic multiverse-introducing “Flash of Two Worlds”, wherein Barry Allen could read about Jay Garrick’s adventures in comic books, so too will that meta-structure return for “Multiversity” in order to highlight what Morrison calls “the most terrifying threat anyone’s ever created in a comic. I don’t do hyperbole,” he laughs, “BUT. This is the one. We’ve discovered, what I think, is actually a technology…it’s like hypnosis…this is a new thing we are doing” that will highlight the increasing threat over the course of each issue, as one world has to pass portents of doom along to the next. “Something is bringing down the structure of the multiverse.”

“Like I said, we have seven different books dealing with this,” he continues. The initial story will feature a multiversal Justice League, with Calvin Ellis, the black President Superman from Final Crisis and Action, as the protagonist. The second story will be a pulp adventure tale, using both old pulp characters and repurposed characters who could easily fit the mold, including an Indiana Jones by way of John Constantine “Doc” Fate. Also present will be Lady Blackhawk, the Atom and the Immortal Man in a story set in the year 2013 after a world war has decimated the human populace down to two billion people. Following that will be “The Just”, taking place on Earth-11, showcasing the return of the Super-Sons and the children of other superheroes. Surprisingly citing The Hills as an inspiration, the disaffected super-kids will be introduced in ways similar to that program, and the utopian world brought on by their parents will be echoed by their dull, meaningless, “shallow” conversational patterns. We’ll also see the remnants of a bored Justice League, filled with nearly-forgotten 90s characters with nothing to do but superhero/supervillain battle re-enactments. When asked who would be appearing, Kyle Rayner will be the Green Lantern featured in the book, but Guy Gardner will be present. Other 90s characters set to appear include Bloodpack, Bloodwynd, Anima, Walker Gabriel and, yes, Wally West, amidst a host of other legacy characters introduced in the era, hinting at appearances by Azrael and the “replacement” Supermen. Knowing that it would always come back to the most iconic versions of the characters, such as Bruce Wayne, Barry Allen and Hal Jordan, Morrison wanted to give these heroes “a world they did inherit, but they didn’t inherit anything” worthwhile.

Next up is “Pax Americana”, Morrison’s long-awaited take on the Charlton heroes, such as Blue Beetle and Captain Atom, that Alan Moore’s Watchmen was based on. His take on Watchmen itself, Morrison has altered that series’ famous nine-panel grid into an eight-panel grid for “Pax Americana” in order to drive home the concept of “the musical harmonics that kind of underpin the whole series. It’s all based on the number eight, which becomes really important.” He refers to the artwork as “beyond what most people in comics are doing”, claiming it’s the next stage in Frank Quitelty’s continued artistic evolution. He firmly believes it’s the “best thing” that he and Quitely have yet accomplished in the world of superhero comics. “Thunderworld” will be in an all-ages style and will immediately follow “Pax Americana”. After that, readers will be due for a trip to Earth-10 (formerly Earth X in the pre-Crisis world) home of the Nazi superheroes that helped defeat the Allies in World War II. The issue, which Morrison gleefully revealed “opens with Hitler on the toilet reading Action Comics” and yelling about Superman. Morrison reveals that in this world, Superman’s rocket landed in 1938 in Nazi-occupied territory and Hitler raises the child. Everything in the story (which Morrison compares in scope to Shakespeare and HBO epics) will evolve from that point, with Superman realizing, in his twenty-fifth year of life, the precise nature of Hitler’s evil and realizing “who the baddie is”. Deciding instead to take down the Nazi regime and create a utopia, Superman won’t stray too far from how he’s been raised, with Morrison promising sweeping Wagnerian architecture and a melodramatic world. He promises the story will delve deep into Superman’s inner conflict; he’s created a Utopian society that looks perfect but “is built on the bones of the dead” and has to come crumbling down. At this point in the story, in 1956, Morrison will re-introduce the Quality characters known collectively as The Freedom Fighters, this time making them both literal and figurative enemies of Hitler. Uncle Sam, the last remaining vestige of America, will again form and lead the team. Quoting Emma Lazarus (“Give me…your huddled masses yearning to breathe free”), Morrison teases a team featuring a version of Dollman who’s a Jehovah’s Witness, a homosexual Ray, a gypsy Phantom Lady and an African version of Black Condor in what Morrison calls “the return of the oppressed.” Thematically, the story will deal with a society under siege by terrorists who are in the right, and the regime they’re striking against knows it.

“Ultra Comics” will be a story set in the real world and involves the technology Morrison had mentioned earlier, which he refuses to talk about before the issue is released because “it will blow your mind. This comic will possess you. This comic is haunted, is all I’m going to say.” He promises to “make a superhero in front of” the reader in our own world. Morrison also promises a guidebook to the Multiverse will accompany the series, which he calls his magnum opus.

Once upon a time, Grant believed he could use the complexity of the DC Universe to literally make it a sentient being. Now he wants to make the reader into a superhero when they read it.

Don’t know about you but that’s one hell of a cover gimmick.


sounds awesome !

The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
 
   
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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I know no one will probably believe me but Avengers Arena is surprisingly good...

Nah, I got #1 a while back and it looked awesome! In other news, I have no money, and therefore no comics.


I am sad.

   
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Grant Morrison is an original, that's for sure. I'm not even sure where to start with all of that.

Wait...yes, I do. Super-Sons FTW!

Regarding Avengers, that entire franchise has scared me off for the last couple years. It all seems too confusing, with too many books. Marvel's gotten less and less of my money lately.

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 Goliath wrote:
 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I know no one will probably believe me but Avengers Arena is surprisingly good...

Nah, I got #1 a while back and it looked awesome! In other news, I have no money, and therefore no comics.


I am sad.


I understand your pain.

 
   
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 gorgon wrote:


Regarding Avengers, that entire franchise has scared me off for the last couple years. It all seems too confusing, with too many books. Marvel's gotten less and less of my money lately.


I've dropped Avengers for the first time in many years. I'm just not digging Hickman's style. All of the Avengers have lost their personality suddenly for some reason.

Sticking with New Avengers for a while longer. It's a bit better and I've got a bit of soft spot for Black Panther for some reason. I'm hoping he can make a breakthrough as an A- lister.

Avengers Arena shouldn't even be called that. It's got nothing to do with anything Avengers related. It's it's own self contained story that must come to a conclusion some time.

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