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2014/11/20 01:43:53
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
The bunker looks great. If you answered this question and I missed it, I apologize... What's the fluff behind the bunker, does it have special rules or is it just a building? I looks like it's meant to be deployed and even recoverable. Which makes me wonder if these are stored on board something like a Hunter Destroyer (or other Escort ship), or maybe they would only be on a larger ship (Cruiser or Battle Barge). In which case there must be other equipment that serves to recover chapter resources like drop pods and battle bunkers right?
@Turaxa: Thanks for stopping by! Yes, they do make a good proxy for the Contemptor, the only limitation being what weapons you can stick on it. Of course, with a little elbow grease you can make anything work, although I'm not sure if it would look very good with a DCCW of some sort! Thanks, I'll get back to the Landing Craft once I have a better work space, the engine and wings section is going to be massive!
@Jabbakahut: Thanks! No worries, I've not dived into this yet, hehe! My best guess is that there is no official fluff on this particular bunker, let alone rules. If any such thing exists it would be in the two White Dwarf issues (298-299?) that covered the release of the Space Marine's 4th edition codex, which I don't own so I couldn't tell you right now. However, looking at the shape and variety of his bunker it is easy to infer that they are, as you say, deployable and recoverable. In the SM 4th edition codex there are 3 distinct versions of this bunker, a command bunker with a radar type thing coming out of the top, a techmarine one with a giant servo arm on the roof, and I guess a Firebase version with the added defensive wall, which is the one I modelled mine off of!
Yeah, it makes sense that SM barges and escorts would have room for all sorts of deployable stuff. As I recall, according to FW fluff, Thunderhawk transports are used to recover drop pods and such, and I'd assume that the big old Landing Craft I'm working on could do the same. Stands to reason that they could easily pick up a bunker like the one I'm building, especially considering it's similar shape and size to a Rhino or drop pod!
@ruralguard: Great minds!!! Wow, four assault cannons and four missile launchers, that's pretty wicked! Those are some great looking dreads!
Great idea both of you to proxy a Space Crusade dreadnought as a Contemptor. I'd forgotten how tall the legs on a MkX are, it makes that Sallies dread look short. I do love the SC Dread, I wish forgeworld would do an updated version.
I do love the Crusade dreadnoughts, such a great looking model. I've got a few of the smaller ones as Imperial Guard sentinels too
2014/11/21 01:13:59
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
Hehe, I wish I knew where that pic came from and what the context was. I assume it's an old White Dwarf, but who knows. To me it's a mkI Rhino hull with unique track assemblies, neither Rhino nor LR, or if it is one or the other it is with a lot of artistic licence, which makes me think this pic comes from a White Dwarf that predates the original Rhino kit. For my build I'm using an old Rhino hull and reversed Leman Russ track assemblies!
@Ruglud: Hehe, I know what you mean, for now I'm treating it as a predecessor to the Legion Medusa! I assume the reason why the track assemblies are so bulky is in order to deal with the recoil, as opposed to the typical track assemblies found on the Rhino.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, I should add that I found this pic on the net a long time ago and whoever initially uploaded it assigned the name Maelstrom to it. Whether this is accurate to the pictures source I don't know. Here's my basic idea for it, currently running short of some crucial bits!
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Heliodore wrote: Hehe, I wish I knew where that pic came from and what the context was. I assume it's an old White Dwarf, but who knows. To me it's a mkI Rhino hull with unique track assemblies, neither Rhino nor LR, or if it is one or the other it is with a lot of artistic licence, which makes me think this pic comes from a White Dwarf that predates the original Rhino kit. For my build I'm using an old Rhino hull and reversed Leman Russ track assemblies!
I believe the pic is from a Hourus Heresy card game. I own the HH art book and it has pictures of all the cards at the back. And yes, Maelstrom rings a bell, I'll double check for you though when I am home.
Heliodore wrote: Hehe, I wish I knew where that pic came from and what the context was. I assume it's an old White Dwarf, but who knows. To me it's a mkI Rhino hull with unique track assemblies, neither Rhino nor LR, or if it is one or the other it is with a lot of artistic licence, which makes me think this pic comes from a White Dwarf that predates the original Rhino kit. For my build I'm using an old Rhino hull and reversed Leman Russ track assemblies!
I believe the pic is from a Hourus Heresy card game. I own the HH art book and it has pictures of all the cards at the back. And yes, Maelstrom rings a bell, I'll double check for you though when I am home.
Great start by the way, you sure work fast!
I think I've seen that picture before, and I don't have a WD collection going back to RT, so it could well be an image from the HHCCG, GW used a number of external artists to create the images and some of the pictures which featured on the cards did involve quite a bit of artistic licence.
I'll be around my old WD this thanksgiving, I'll have to look through some of the early 90's ones and see what cool stuff I forgot about.
Good call on the Leman Russ track, it looks like it backwards. The tank kind of reminded me of a smaller version of the Squat/Imperial giant land train thing.
@Turaxa: You're right about the HHCCG art, there was some wonky stuff in there. My brother owns the original art book and I don't recall seeing that pic, but I could have easily missed it. I also think there must be a ton of art that was never published after the CCG went bust. For instance, I've never seen a high resolution image of John Blanche's Ferrus Mannus sketch and I don't think it was in any of the big book compilations. For all we know it could be really old fan art!
@jabbakahut: Cool, let me know if you find anything nifty!
Yeah, thanks, I was a bit proud of that since I had an incomplete Russ lying around that I didn't know what to do with!
@Jabbakahut: Hehe, awesome bunch of pics, that's all great stuff! The first pic is certainly old assault marines. I know in the Rogue Trader era dual weapons were easily allowed. The guy in front probably has a bolt pistol and a plasma pistol. The guy in back is carrying two of something larger, you can see the casings popping out, so oddly enough, they are probably normal bolters, since I'm pretty sure that in the RT days you couldn't dual wield heavy weapons.
Second pic is the original ornithopter, here's mine again:
Yeah, I've got a couple of copies of Rogue Trader, I love going through it for inspiration. The original scratch build Land Raider is truly a thing to behold, hehe. A fellow on Dakkadakka did his own version of it, can't find it right now due to being buried deep, but it's definitely more fiddly that the inevitable plastic kit that came afterwards!
The fourth pic I've seen before, it has crossed my mind to do something with it. It has a more real-world feel, which is due to the fact that it was drawn before the SM aesthetic was fully established In mind it's what eventually became the Predator tank, and may have been based on someone in the studio's early kit-bash. I try to stick with things that have fluff and rules, like the ornithopter.
Hehe, with the fifth pic I initially thought you wanted me to make a full-scale turtle-back Warlord titan (I am tempted!)! The flying dude is actually riding the older style jet bike or jet cycle as they called it, older than the ones in your last pic!
I like those old bikes and jet bikes, after a long while I finally bought a couple of them, I have comparison pics in my gallery. I have that old Termy, along with the other two old styles that were made around that time, but those are back in the states!
Thanks for the blast from the past, not that I was actually there, hehe!
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So, I happened upon a copy of gothic and eldritch at half priced books yesterday. There was an alternate design for the current land raider kit in there that would be perfect for your ongoing project here.
I'm eyeing the reaver titans in there as well. They look like a fun project for me.
There is no Zuul, there is only war!
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Mechanicum W:4 L:2 D:1
2014/12/28 10:52:05
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
Hey Zuul!! Awesome, I've always wanted to go through that book, I've seen some of the sketches, but never had the book in front of me! Ooh, sounds fun, wouldn't mind seeing that sketch!
Yeah, go for it, I love seeing all the titan projects that go on in here! A part of me wants to make a 40k scale beetle-back warlord titan one day!
Oh, I've totally been working on a lot of cool stuff, but my camera ran out of juice and my usb cord broke awhile back, so I'm waiting for a new one, otherwise I'd have posted a bunch of stuff by now!
Cool, thanks for the offer Zuul! Hehe, I have a feeling I'd need some big pieces printed, which would probably be a lot of money considering what some things go for on Shapeways! Oh, and those pics you wanted are in my gallery(if I did them right).
Ok, big update on a smattering of projects I've been working on since last I posted any pics! Here's my Maelstrom/ Medusa as copied from the odd piece of artwork I posted several weeks ago! The cannon is Armorcast's howitzer that I modded by adding extra tubing to widen and elongate its barrel. I wonder if I should add more rivets to the sides? I kind of wanted to keep the sleekness as seen in the pic.
And here's the back, hehe, not much space, but then that's typical of the old MkI Rhinos anyways!
Next is the Land Raider made from a WWI British MkIV Male tank as shown in an old White Dwarf article. It's not to the letter exactly like the one built by Fred Reed, but it's pretty close!
Here's a cool garage kit I had to pick up, the Anathema Assault Tank, which was made by a fellow in Russia. As you can see, some of the parts were appropriated from GW kits, but the tank as a whole is something pretty unique. I usually don't go for non-fluff creations, but I really liked the grimdark spirit of this crazy looking tank!
Just for fun, here's my LR Terminus Ultra. I'm just proud of the fact that all of its lascannons can target a single vehicle at once!
And finally, for now, my leftover Vindicator with a Laser Destroyer Array (the old Rapier) instead of a Demolisher cannon, an option you can take in the Horus Heresy books! Not a difficult mod as all, just thought it came out better than I initially thought it would!
That's pretty much it for 2014, see you next year!!
I don|t know which of your creations I like most, top contenders are the ornithopter and the mark raider, I suppose. I expecially like the simpleness of your conversion jobs, simple, yes, but nevertheless producing very distinctive and exactly defined results! In other words,
genius.
The crazy roller-of-doom tank you got there is even crazier because it is based on two real-life studies...
Spoiler:
russian "Tzar" tank prototype from 1915
Wehrmacht mine clearing vehicle "Stampfer"
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2014/12/30 23:52:00
Subject: Heliodore's Rare and Obscure SM 40k Vehicle scratchbuilds. Random stuff!!
@Stormwall: Thanks kindly! Hehe, cool, I've seen both of those before. The size of the "Devourer" Drop-ship in 40k scale would be crazy, it would totally take up most of my garage, if I had a garage! The Space Marine Drop-ship, on the other hand, I have actually considered! I think it looks cool even though it's something of an anomaly design-wise for the 40k universe. There's a lot of detail on it, which is cool, but I'd want to have the actual Epic/ Spacefleet model in front me if I'm going to tackle it. Even without it, I'd say there is a strong possibility I'll do one down the line! I'll probably do one of these first, hehe:
@Camkierhi: Thanks man, much appreciated! Hehe, totally, and to think I scaled down the howitzer from the old picture I based the tank on!
@Hruotland: Thanks a ton, I appreciate your kind words, I don't get called a genius everyday, hehe! I have always liked the phrase "simplicity is key" when doing my builds!
Awesome, I was aware there were some real-world influences for the Anathema tank, but I didn't know which tanks specifically. Thanks for the pics!!
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Great bunch of updates! Nice to see the Maelstrom all finished up though I'm beginning to wonder where you store all these vehicles. Judging by the amount you have made I think an actual tank would take up less space.
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Thanks Kid_Kyoto! Big fan of your Reaper and retro review threads!
Hehe, thanks as always Commander Cain! A bunch of my super-heavy tanks are stored back in the States, and here in NZ I have a good number of spacious shelves!
Thank you for the kind words Heliodore and I can't wait to see what you do for that Landing Craft. Maybe we will see that dropship after it in 2015 eh? I think it is cool you are going with the older variant. As of late I have been drafting up plans for a Grav-Attack Cruiser/Lander (I don't have a good name for it yet,) large enough to house a small company of Astartes and some guard, and some of the old epic designs proved to be most useful for it. This thread inspired a lot of it, alongside a scout land raider scratchbuild. I can't show anything yet as I still have to run the Cruiser designs through Adobe Illustrator. (Okay, rather my girlfriend. I am not that talented.) So thank you for all your old-school work. It has even saved me some grief with old Rhino assembly.
Also, I have Pm'd you about Mk1 Terminators, I didn't want to be rude and ask about them in this thread.
Lastly, do you think we will ever be treated to an entire collection shot? (Either all of it or at least two half pictures since you are a global modeller it would seem? :p )
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