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 The_Blackadder wrote:
So there are a few (read very few) new images of the DS titan on the 'net. Considering that it costs virtually nothing to take hundreds of pictures anymore why only three of this monumental artistic effort but I appreciate all that I can find.

Geez can't someone take a decent picture of the back of this thing and try not to get a reflection in the image in the glass! Cripes how hard is that? Do I have to purchase a ticket to LA and take 'em myself??????????????

Anyway these are revealing pictures and expose new aspects of the work heretofore unseen and I am grateful for them in spite of my childish tantrum..................

Sir the way I see it is- This project that you are doing right now is a master piece. It's amazing and it's yours. I really wouldn't worry about what any one else is doing with theirs or how it really is suppose to be in games workshop 40k universe. use your own take on this masterpiece of art that you are doing. if any thing you an always say it's a slightly different pattern. this also save a lot of time looking around on the internet for some one's pictures, and just simply do what you think looks really cool. Like I said- It is still amazingly awesome, and I can't wait to see it finished.

Wow Thailand, I'm impressed. I love the cosmopolitan aspect of these forum. There are so many like minded individuals in the world. The internet has done so much to decimate the archaic political boundaries on this planet.

Awaiting the first deep space reply any day now..............

With regard to copying it's more now that I'd like to see how my version compares to the original.

Thanks for the reply

Wicked stuff Black.

It really is looking wonderful.

D

I can't wait until I start bulking this thing out. Right now it's like a skeleton of the finished work and much too thin looking. I made the mistake with Lucie and bulked her up before she was ready due to popular opinion (I was a mere tyro in scratch at that time.) I've learned my lesson since then and realize that detail adds immensely to the overall massiveness of the finished product.

Update coming later this evening........


EB

Here's a lesson boys and girls; don't be afraid to rebuild that which is unsatisfactory. without a guide other than rather spurious images and incomplete documentation I have decided that the current iteration is less than satisfactory and am employing efforts to rectify said anomalies. Therefore I have amended slight indiscretions for the great good of the overall project.........

Case in point; the discrepancy in the overall back panels of the current work with that of the original. Due to a failure on my part to discern perspective errors I made definite and grievous mistakes.

Fortunately the errors can be corrected without redefining the internal structure of the said project but at the expense of a few square centimeters of styrene I can ameliorate the current structure into a more reasonable facsimile.

http://i.imgur.com/tuzaW.jpg

Note in the upper right the replacement seam on the center back as opposed to the mirror site on the left. A quarter inch seems to make all the diference.

http://i.imgur.com/kdQ8U.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/oY4lD.jpg

After taking a week off to refresh myself I woke yesterday morning with a solution to a problem that has vexed me since I started this project. Namely the door and the ladder to nowhere. I have always thought the door was a personnel portal when the titan was docked in the hangar for maintenance and maybe it served a secondary function as an escape hatch in battle but the ladder always looked ridiculous and wasn't needed. Scratch one ladder.

The other big problem was the placement of the door on the epic and DS model which seems too high for convenient exit. I felt that the logical place to have it was for the command deck people. The waist block has a hatch at the bottom and engineering exits through the catwalks under the carapace. That leaves the command deck and the reactor/void generator decks to vacate. Naturally descending on a ladder is too slow so in the vestibular immediate proximity of the door will be descent bungees for rapid evacuation.

One can assume when the titan is docked the door provides egress for the crew much as the gantry catwalk for the lamented Space Shuttle missions.

I did an major revamping of the command deck to accommodate this door and passage and there was sufficient room under the carapace for the vestibule.

http://i.imgur.com/qu5bn.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/Aytdi.jpg


Problem solved and in a logical (TMM) manner; Whew!

http://i.imgur.com/ShkeR.jpg

Regarding the cooling modules on the stern panel they are just tacked in place so I can get a feel for how they will look. They're not permanently mounted.

Naturally there will be a lot of piping and mysterious components galore to 'tech up' the exterior.

Looking good Black. Your comments about that door make sense, I'm always impressed by how you approach such problems.

D

Temporarily indisposed for the past week or so but managed to pull an all-nighter yesterday and brought this baby into a new level of detail. I had some trouble reconciling the trim strips on the edge of the seam between the upper and lower panels of the carapace but the solution appears satisfactory at least in the images.

Its strange that what is seen with the naked (Ha, he said naked.) eye is different than what is displayed in a camera image. I have a tendency to elongate images top to bottom when viewing a picture and when I see them in an photograph the perspective/proportion changes. I don't have that problem with TV images and broadcasts on plasma screens bother me greatly when presented in the wrong aspect ratio. Go figure!

Anywho here is the latest run of images complete with inroads into the shoulder carapace magazines starting to be encased. I figure since the Warlord employs both energy and projectile weapons that the area directly above the arms (sic) is devoted to storing the projectile rounds. No point in displaying that as yet but it does logically indicate future reworking.

http://i.imgur.com/chteh.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/9Yhtb.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/UxRAa.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/o9kIR.jpg


Purists may note that I changed a lot in the detail of the rear projection to suit my aesthetic sensibilities but since these vehicles are subjective to the FW, 'many worlds/many interpretations' I feel that Lucius Warlord Titans in a class have variations in that class depending on the 'Forge World' planet of origin. Plus I'm not going to buy a bunch of bitz just to copy the DS original.

HOLY CRAP BLACKADDER, YOUR NOT DEAD!

Between you and Max its like a graveyard around here

ok now thats been said... bloody hell dude, thats some exceptional work!!! As much as you've not been around much, when you post, its always well worth the wait, especially when you knock out quality work like this.

whatever the reason for your absence, its done wonders for the Titan!

Yes, I think we have all been missing our titan scratch build projects on dakka!

Great update, the back looks even better now with the changes you made. Keep up the good work!

Your efforts have been well worth it... astounding detail - inspirational! It's great to be able to follow along with this. Keep up the great work, Blackadder.

There is almost assuredly an easier way to manufacture these components but my natural propensity for doing things the hardest way imaginable forced me to utilize the following method.

The goal is to have trunnion mounted capable of elevation rather than traverse turrets to mount the turbo lasers.

First I made the barrel shaped mounts using the method described below. I started with 1/2 inch PVC tubing which for some reason actually has a bore of about 3/4 inch. Now I need a veneer of styrene so I can glue detail to the surface and I need an axle made of styrene to permanently glue the end caps and detail to the axles and I need styrene trunnion receptacles to permanently glue to the upper carapace housing.

All these items must be the same size within a minor fraction of a millimeter i.e. about a hundredths of an inch or the discrepancy will be noticeable.

First I wrapped thins strips of styrene 0.250 inch wide around the center axles wrapping and gluing until the layers made a snug fit in the PVC gun mounts. Making sure the axles were 0.250 inches longer than the mount.

Then I wrapped 0.125 inch strips around the protruding ends of the axles installed in the PVC mounts so when completed there was two styrene discs on either end or the PVC tubes with a 0.5 inch tube running thru the center.

Next I wrapped 0.10 sheet styrene around the PVC to obtain a styrene cover to glue on subsequent detail.


http://i.imgur.com/Pmjal.jpg


This image left to right demonstrate the steps to make the trunnion mounts for attaching the elevation turrets to the carapace and they are build up in much the same manner as the above discription

http://i.imgur.com/tOX52.jpg


Here are the trunnion mounts afixed to the carapace and the inboard reinforcement is glued in place to provide strength when the laser mounts are moved.

http://i.imgur.com/ExJuS.jpg


This side show the rough laser mount in the carapace recess ready to be reinforced.

THis is going to be really really baddass...

Turbo laser update and now its Moskva time.

http://i.imgur.com/8Zlgh.jpg


Note, drilling the holes for the laser barrel mounts is critical if you want both lasers to point in the same direction. Especially if you don't have a drill press.


http://i.imgur.com/hHbAn.jpg


These seem pretty straight.

Bloody awsome work bro. Glad to see progress on this magnificent build. I fondly wait for the day where you do a battle report for this beast.

Battle report.......... do you think I'm putting in all this work just to have it fired on!

A little more accomplished on the turbo laser mounts including the wiring and trim. aside from the laser tubes themselves this pretty much completes the basic detail in this area and I'll be working around the rest of the upper carapace detail. A note on the propriety of exposing circuity to incoming fire............. Not a good idea.

In a headlong career of activity ( For me that is.)I added significantly to the basic structure and the finer detail this week and I thought before I got too far I should post an update. I'm very glad to relate that the void generator housing have a goodly start and the carapace magazine covers (BTW they are removable to access to main weapon armatures) are fitted with Leman Russ hatches and a bit of detail as well.

http://i.imgur.com/1cJ6N.jpg


The center cover and inner walls of the generator housings are removable to view the interior detail of the reactor compartment.

http://i.imgur.com/64duE.jpg


The back view reveals the complete detailing of the left and right upper carapace.

http://i.imgur.com/YhT69.jpg

I'm very eager to see your ideas about a head and command crew.

Holy crap on a cracker! It lives! The titan is looking awesome!

your skills with plasticard are that of a jedi!

Orinoco wrote:I'm very eager to see your ideas about a head and command crew.

You and me both. It's not by accident I have left the head for last and I probably won't even start on it until the rest of the front is done. I confess I'm a bit daunted of the prospect in beginning the cockpit there is so much that could affect the entire aspect of model not the least of which is the relative scale. Fortunately the neck is entirely removable from the hull which should make modifications easier. The forehead/helmet contour is my biggest Waterloo, I only want to make it once so I have to complete the exterior front elevation before I commence.

Squigsquasher wrote:Holy crap on a cracker! It lives! The titan is looking awesome!

Ahh do I detect a TBBT aficionado?

Note below all the removable components. THeis will remain removable even after the model is completed for access to the inner workings and display.

TBBT? What is that?

The Big Bang Theory...

... kids these days

Allow me to elucidate; TBBT is probably the best sitcom in quite a while and the lead female character has a propensity for ejecting, "Holy crap on a cracker!' at opportune moments. Not the most gentile of phrases but what you might expect from one who has the Chinese character for 'soup' tattooed on her right buttock. She thought it meant 'courage'.

^ what Black said

Amazing.... I've always wanted to build one but never got up the nerve.... keep up the good work & post tons of pics !!!!

Oh thank goodness for that...

I was worried that TBBT was a term for coprophillia...

 Squigsquasher wrote:
Oh thank goodness for that...

I was worried that TBBT was a term for coprophillia...

That was a new one on me and I had to look it up, and now wish I hadn't.........yuck!

On an ad absurdum note; I shall never look at a Senior Citizen Transport vehicle in the same way..................


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In a related topic (and I should have picked up on the root word prefix as familiar with Paleontology as I am) the study of fossilized dinosaur feces i.e. Paleocoprology is an accredited scientific profession but one infrequently encounters an adherent at cocktail parties willing to admit it.

First a question.

In the first attached image can anyone identified the outlined bitz?

I have had a chance to work on this model more than usual being laid up with a virus for the past three days.

As the poet said, It's an ill wind..........................

The center one looks like the fans off of the vindicator