Walking Dead TV Show **Spoilers** (comic talk only in spoiler tags)

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**Frazzled**

KamikazeCanuck wrote:
And the fact your completely exposed. Car gives you protection. Motorcycle just establishes your cool level.

Protection? I'm a Texan. The zombies will be the ones needing protection, from me.

Actually I'd proffer the highway scenes in Zombie land and Walking Dead would be quite accurate near any major area.

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Frazzled wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:
And the fact your completely exposed. Car gives you protection. Motorcycle just establishes your cool level.

Protection? I'm a Texan. The zombies will be the ones needing protection, from me.

Actually I'd proffer the highway scenes in Zombie land and Walking Dead would be quite accurate near any major area.

Well I'd proffer a nice hard shell jeep type vehicel with real 4 wheel drive would be the next best thing. I'm sure there would be plenty of Humvee types laying around.
At least until the gas runs out. Remember, gas loses its potency over time.

**gorgon**

My vote's definitely for a car...something big enough that I could throw a mountain bike in the back as a backup.

@Frazz: That's a great point about the gasoline, especially with modern ethanol blends. I know they sure gunk up my small engines if they aren't treated with fuel stabilizer (and sometimes even when they are). A car engine is undoubtedly more forgiving, but gas would appear to become an issue even before it runs out. Maybe a chemical engineer on the board can chime in on this.

**DutchKillsRambo**

The average life span of gasoline is ~5 years, less if its not sealed well. They kind of covered gas crises at the end of season 1 in the bunker.

Anyone else read the comics? I'm a bout 3 issues behind and I really need to get back into it.

**Andrew1975**

DeathReaper wrote:
The thing about a bike is, if you need to catch a nap, and you do it on your bike, you wake up with a zombie bite.

No problems like that in a car.

Not really an issue, just make sure you find a safe spot. Not really that hard. Zombies can't climb trees.

**KamikazeCanuck**

Not everyone lives in Texas Frazz. This is main concept Texans struggle with: some kind of world outside Texas.

Anyways, forget about the Priii and the Hyundais the best thing to have is a Humvee or a Hummer. I don't care if its a gas guzzler. When you think about it they haven't done that much driving and abandoned vehicles seem to be everywhere.

**Frazzled**

KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Not everyone lives in Texas Frazz. This is main concept Texans struggle with: some kind of world outside Texas.

Anyways, forget about the Priii and the Hyundais the best thing to have is a Humvee or a Hummer. I don't care if its a gas guzzler. When you think about it they haven't done that much driving and abandoned vehicles seem to be everywhere.

Well during the Zombie games, there will only be: Texas and Zombie ranches where the zombies are raised. Others would term those areas Chicago.

**KamikazeCanuck**

There will still be Non-Texas enclaves resisting and hiding from The Great Imperium of Texas.

**Gitsplitta**

Perhaps, but Chicago zombies would be organized and exceptionally well armed!

**whembly**

THis is cool...

**Byte**

Byte wrote:
FITZZ wrote:
Byte wrote:
Did anyone else notice the Governor had Rick's sheriffs gun bag?

Wait...what?, No I didn't notice that, when did that scene take place.
I usaully catch those sorts of things...

He was talking to Blondie in his room/house and gearing up with wargear. He hoisted the bag up on the table. I'll check my DVR and get the minute mark.

36 min 50 secs mark.

I assume it came from the nursing home.

**FITZZ**

@ Byte.

I assumed that as well, but then,IIRC wasn't Andrea carrying the gun bag when she was running from Hershel's farm when it got over run?

**Hulksmash**

Yep, or it could be another cops back. I'm sure there are other similar bags out there

**Byte**

FITZZ wrote: @ Byte.

I assumed that as well, but then,IIRC wasn't Andrea carrying the gun bag when she was running from Hershel's farm when it got over run?

Ahhhhh... maybe... can't recall.

Hulksmash wrote:Yep, or it could be another cops back. I'm sure there are other similar bags out there

Now thats no fun!

**Lint**

Decent episode last night, I enjoyed the Daryl/Merle dialogue. I'm also fairly certain that there wasn't a dry pair of panties anywhere when Daryl showed up and saved the people on the bridge. And then couches everywhere got soaked again during the prison scene.
I am kind of confused as to the Gov's purpose though. Why did he stop when he clearly held the advantage and could've easily caused more harm and death to the group? Seems a little contrived to spend the first shot and kill a non-character, then shoot a thousand more rounds, hit nothing, drop off some geeks, and then leave without seeing the plan to fruition. Granted he left before Daryl showed up to save Rick, but all the more reason to hang around and make sure your plan worked..

**Hulksmash**

I think it was more like a warning shot. And remember he'd lost a dude on the tower and the longer the fire fight went on the higher the chance he was to lose more of his "wet work" group. The guys who will do whatever he says. It's funny but the sides are almost even in actual fighters (if you count Darryl, Merl, and Carl). And the govenor didn't see Darryl or Merl and heard a truck heading his way, seemed a reasonable time to call it quits.

**Lint**

I suppose.
He also looked like a complete tool firing his gun in the air, ymmv.

**Hulksmash**

I think the gun in the air was to attract walkers. Another reason they might have been scooting out. He breaks the gates and draws a huge herd of zombies and figures even if they survive they'll be busy for a bit. Giving him time to rile up the town to assault the prison.

**Meade**

I think there was enough return fire to discourage the governor from just rolling in, keep in mind that he has a lot to gain from the prison group being annihilated... revenge on Merle and Michonne, and sooner they're gone Andrea will stop asking questions and it's less likely she'll contact them. But he might just be hoping the group packs up and moves out.

BTW.... I love schizophrenic Rick. Pretty cool that he's become unhinged.

**Hulksmash**

I love schizophrenic Rick for 2ish episodes and I thought the actor did an excellent job in portraying a man who knows he's losing it. That said I hope it wraps up sometime next episode because if they draw it out it'll make me like one of my favorite characters less.

To be fair if anyone has a right to go nuts it's Rick. The man woke up in an over run hospital, was nearly eaten entering Atlanta, had to watch people he was in charge of die, had to kill his best friend, has a baby that might not be his, and now his wife is dead. I say he's earned an episode or two of crazy town

**Squidmanlolz**

I'm kind of disappointed in Glen's character. He was my favorite in the comics and the show thus far, but upon taking more of a leadership role in the group, he's kind of becoming a dick and forcibly driving Maggie away. I miss old Glen, it seems like everyone in the group is sort of getting crazy/aggressive/bored

**Byte**

Squidmanlolz wrote:
I'm kind of disappointed in Glen's character. He was my favorite in the comics and the show thus far, but upon taking more of a leadership role in the group, he's kind of becoming a dick and forcibly driving Maggie away. I miss old Glen, it seems like everyone in the group is sort of getting crazy/aggressive/bored

Doesn't he have to be like this out of necessity, I mean Rick's a fruit pie and Daryl left...

Maggie isn't exactly being supportive.

**Lint**

Byte wrote:

Maggie isn't exactly being supportive.

Yeah what the hell is her problem anyway? I was really scratching my head with that whole dynamic.

**Byte**

Lint wrote:
Byte wrote:

Maggie isn't exactly being supportive.

Yeah what the hell is her problem anyway? I was really scratching my head with that whole dynamic.

We were to last night. WTH.

**Hulksmash**

I got the feeling from her conversation with Glen that she partially blames him and her feelings for him for what happened to her. Even more so what she would allow to happen to her. Add in Glen being in an obvious rage and not seeming to be there for her. He's upset something happened to her but it feels more ilke he's the one that's uncomfortable. Add all that up and you've got a world class fight going on because they aren't communicating.

Basically, Glen is being male and Maggie is being female and it's a natural progression.

**whembly**

Hulksmash wrote:
I got the feeling from her conversation with Glen that she partially blames him and her feelings for him for what happened to her. Even more so what she would allow to happen to her. Add in Glen being in an obvious rage and not seeming to be there for her. He's upset something happened to her but it feels more ilke he's the one that's uncomfortable. Add all that up and you've got a world class fight going on because they aren't communicating.

Basically, Glen is being male and Maggie is being female and it's a natural progression.

^^^

Yup... that's what I got from that sequence...

I think the writers are trying to say that while the world can go into a gak dumpster... some dynamics don't really change.

**gorgon**

I think you have the way of it regarding Glen and Maggie.

**Byte**

Would she not endured "torture" for her father, sister? Would she be all butt hurt after? Does she really love Glenn? Hmmm...

**Hulksmash**

She'd probably be less butt hurt if it was her family, not someone she'd fallen in love with. If it was her sister there wouldn't be the communication problem. Herchel was successfully married for decades, probably wouldn't have the same problem there either.

Remember, she was pretty fatalistic when they met in season 2. This would just bring that back after the happiness she found with Glenn.

**Squidmanlolz**

My thought was that Maggie was trying to recover from the trauma on her own. She was pushing Glen away because he was being too controlling. IMO, he should have given her some space after she told him to sort of back off

**KamikazeCanuck**

I'm loving Glenn right now and dissappointed with Maggie. I know she doing the non logical, emotional woman thing but still.
However, totally dissappointed in Rick. Anyone notice when he was going on his crazy walk he just left the door open? Good thing Michonne, the women he's kicking out, was there to see it.

I don't know what to make of that shootout. I guess in a way it's realistic that a bunch of civilians would miss so much with their fully automatic weapons. However, this is also the group that masterfully and completely wiped out an army patrol SEAL Team 6 style.