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Excellent work vik! Love the pirate theme, now you need a grot with a peg leg and a small squiggle on his shoulder.

thanks to all of you my friends!!!... your comments really boost my efforts!

and theo...:

 Theophony wrote:
Excellent work vik! Love the pirate theme, now you need a grot with a peg leg and a small squiggle on his shoulder.

well the final decisions have been made by me... there will be a grot army made by me... i will work on this from time to time now... so that peglegged pirate is bound to happen...!... i have one squigg... but that one probably needs to be scratchbuild / greenstuffed ....ARRRRR^^

so...i rpomised more pics... well i give you two updates for one...

at first i drybrushed the whole build with boltgun metal...:





but then i added black and white... see for yourself...hope you like them^^






i have to be extra careful with the painting process... if i am careless the paint comes off... sadly while being very precise with brush on primer... the primer isn´t that trusty as i had hoped for... the model thus needs extra sealing later on...

cheers, vik

Sorry for saying the same thing all the time, but brilliant. Looks great.

Not sure, but for future reference, a coat of pva as a pre-primer may have helped. Or sanding the deo. I take it, it is the deo giving you a problem.

Looks brilliant though, is it staying black and white? Goff-esk.

Can't wait to see your Grot army come along.

see... i wanted to check what kind of orky army would use that scheme... thanks cam!...

and well yes... the deo part is indeed the main problem here... that soft and slick surface just doesn´t want the paint that much ... but a coat of PVA i already had thought about too... hmm... the details are that thick anyway that a coat more wouldn´t hurt... that is the best thing with scratchbuilding... the details are mostly that thick no hurt in doing thick coats of paint and no fear in loosing any details thus!

and... i have absolutly nothing against brilliance


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oh... and i am think of adding a third color... but which one? red again? my whole armies always get these colors... or just stay black and white?... at least there will be green for the skin tones of the grots...

Vik, if this grot army will be attacking your steampunk army then it needs BLUE. Just to shove I in the queens face. Will this be the "Black Baron"? He could be the grot flying ace who always needs a new sidekick or two after each battle as they become bombardiers.

Nice vik!
Im in the process of making my own grot plane at the moment, just alot smaller

I like Theo's idea and blue could work.
Make sure to pick a pleasing blue to match the particular shade of green that your grots will be.

Blue/Deathskulls would also seem to fit Vik's general tendencies:
"The Deathskulls (sometimes written as Death Skulls) are an Ork clan of looters who grab whatever they can from corpses on the battlefield, although they aren't above taking things from other Orks who aren't watching. They collect anything that might be useful, as well as various lucky trinkets and charms, and even junk and whats-its that "might come in 'andy later'". Deathskulls would make capable scientists and excellent engineers if their fascination for new things lasted longer than the time it took to steal them." (from the Lexicanum)

Sound like anyone we know?

 inmygravenimage wrote:
Blue/Deathskulls would also seem to fit Vik's general tendencies:
"The Deathskulls (sometimes written as Death Skulls) are an Ork clan of looters who grab whatever they can from corpses on the battlefield, although they aren't above taking things from other Orks who aren't watching. They collect anything that might be useful, as well as various lucky trinkets and charms, and even junk and whats-its that "might come in 'andy later'". Deathskulls would make capable scientists and excellent engineers if their fascination for new things lasted longer than the time it took to steal them." (from the Lexicanum)

Sound like anyone we know?

So they are the LOER, of 40k???

Deffskulls=US Congress?

Looking great Vik!

Pirates need treasures... I'd live to see a chest full of teeth

That looks excellent, and I too second the idea of a chest full of teef, I mean 'booty.'

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

oh... and i am think of adding a third color... but which one? red again? my whole armies always get these colors... or just stay black and white?... at least there will be green for the skin tones of the grots...

I say 1 of two.

Blood axe random camo. It always goes well, and will challenge your color pallet. They use purple to green camo and all inbetween. Second I would have to say deff-skulls, blue and white.

Theophony wrote:Vik, if this grot army will be attacking your steampunk army then it needs BLUE. Just to shove I in the queens face. Will this be the "Black Baron"? He could be the grot flying ace who always needs a new sidekick or two after each battle as they become bombardiers.

do you actually remember my fullf about my steampunk victorian army? wow... i am quite fluttered! yes... it would be a constant affront against everything the mourning queeny declared! clever idea!

Jackal wrote:Nice vik!
Im in the process of making my own grot plane at the moment, just alot smaller

HA! i build mine first nanananana ...and...pics or it didn´t...you know the drill^^

Dr H wrote:I like Theo's idea and blue could work.
Make sure to pick a pleasing blue to match the particular shade of green that your grots will be.

so... if i start for my grots with my usual methode with a scorpion green and then add either green flesh wash or thrakka green... what would be a pleasing blue, say?... iceblue and a blue wash?... or even darker blue? OR... what about the old citadel metalic blue? too flashy?

inmygravenimage wrote:Blue/Deathskulls would also seem to fit Vik's general tendencies:
"The Deathskulls (sometimes written as Death Skulls) are an Ork clan of looters who grab whatever they can from corpses on the battlefield, although they aren't above taking things from other Orks who aren't watching. They collect anything that might be useful, as well as various lucky trinkets and charms, and even junk and whats-its that "might come in 'andy later'". Deathskulls would make capable scientists and excellent engineers if their fascination for new things lasted longer than the time it took to steal them." (from the Lexicanum)

Sound like anyone we know?

muhahahahaha!!!... loved reading that!... put i aint no petty thief... tho... if you have a million bucks lying around... i am game for everything

Theophony wrote:

 inmygravenimage wrote:
Blue/Deathskulls would also seem to fit Vik's general tendencies:
"The Deathskulls (sometimes written as Death Skulls) are an Ork clan of looters who grab whatever they can from corpses on the battlefield, although they aren't above taking things from other Orks who aren't watching. They collect anything that might be useful, as well as various lucky trinkets and charms, and even junk and whats-its that "might come in 'andy later'". Deathskulls would make capable scientists and excellent engineers if their fascination for new things lasted longer than the time it took to steal them." (from the Lexicanum)

Sound like anyone we know?

So they are the LOER, of 40k???

do we steal? no sir... only ideas

dsteingass wrote:Deffskulls=US Congress?

Looking great Vik!

i am actuually atm totally trying to not post any thoughts on what i currently think of US politics... i fear that a raiding party could just drop in from the windows at any moments if i type the wrong stuff... atm we all should think we are being watched...

storag wrote:Pirates need treasures... I'd live to see a chest full of teeth

hmmm... hmm indeed... i think i could even do that with my ever trusty holepunch

Valhalla130 wrote:That looks excellent, and I too second the idea of a chest full of teef, I mean 'booty.'

cormadepanda wrote:

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

oh... and i am think of adding a third color... but which one? red again? my whole armies always get these colors... or just stay black and white?... at least there will be green for the skin tones of the grots...

I say 1 of two.

Blood axe random camo. It always goes well, and will challenge your color pallet. They use purple to green camo and all inbetween. Second I would have to say deff-skulls, blue and white.

hmmm... i dunno if i am a good enough painter to do camo on small modells...


no painting done today... tho... i took cam´s hinto to heart to strengthen the overall structure and the longlivety of my painting by adding a coat of diluted PVA to the whole model... it worked like a charm... thanks mister for suggesting this to me!!! i first hesitantly aplied the mix to the underside... this is due to the stand a rather heavy trafficed part of th model... and more and more i added PVA to the mix so that now i think it has a rather strong sealing coat... i think the more earnest painting can happen now...

so again... think about the blue i should use... i am very much undecided atm...

cheers, vik

Me like Bad Moonz... they be da teefest, da richest...

I just came up with a little verse that might fit as a "pirate song":

Beat it
Eat it
Chew it
Spit it
Om nom nom nom

/repeat/

Have fun with this gits!

one of these marine marching/running songs would be cool...

but i can´t really rhyme in english...

and whenever something starts wuth beat it... my minds wanders to michael jackson...


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as for rich... well i try to be a role player... but whenever i do play a role it always is just me... a thief... a joker, a jester, a
scoundrel


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so rich probably never but more a pirate... of course with honor

so... if i start for my grots with my usual methode with a green and then add either green wash or green... what would be a pleasing blue, say?... blue and a blue wash?... or even darker blue? OR... what about the old citadel blue? too flashy?

This is what I read with those colour names

I would say, If you have a painted grot laying about in the green that you intend. Then paint a few scraps of card/plastic and see which looks best next to the grot. Rather than painting on a blue and then painting the grots and sticking them in and finding it doesn't look right.

Metallic blue would be nice if it works though.

They are yellow man! Nothing beats yellow!

If I'm not mistaken, Kaptin Badruk - the most famous ork pirate, was a badmoon, they excel at trading and what's the point of robbing and looting if you can't get it off your hands

And by marine song you mean something like this:
Me nutt 'now butt me been told
Da hummies purse be full of gold!

at storag... exactly!

but yellow... only in details... on full scale surfaces... probably now... i tried some on the marines of my son oskar... and well... i call that an epic fail...^^

at doc H... will do some testings... fortunatly i already have some 20 grots already painted in my dio... these will work as a referrence! picsa tomorrow!

As to the blue, I have in the past had the old ork commandos, and for some reason everyone painted them with either a bright red, or a turquoise camo. The turquoise really clashed with the green horribly, which made it even better. But a traditional Deathskullz colour would be nearer ultramarine blue, I am afraid.

The metallic sounds interesting, got that paint myself. Love the colour.

I think you need some swatches to test colour combo's. If your keeping the black and white, blue will not really fit in. Orange, yellow, red yes. But give us some swatches to see where your mind is going please.

Oh and just a thought, but you mentioned metallic, how about just a deep gold trim, on the black and white. Show how rich they are.

Vik, what's the new avatar o yours from?

Holy cow Vik ,seriously man that grot plane looks aces! Can't wait to see it finished

Heres your pics vik

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
but yellow... only in details... on full scale surfaces... probably now... i tried some on the marines of my son oskar... and well... i call that an epic fail...^^

The secret of painting yellow is simple: you need a good opaque foundation paint. E.g., I use Citadel Tausept Ochre - it's a very solid basecoat paint, which is good for undercoating even for white.
Dilute it 1:1 and you'll get a great yet thin coverage. You can add a bit less water (1:0.5) for a better covering, but there's always a risk of getting very thick layer which can hide the details, so keep an eye on it.
Just use any needed yellow tone to get the desired colour afterwards - will be very easy with such a solid basecoat.
A brighter foundation browns might work too.

By the way, an awesome plane you've made! GJ! I like the stand - nvery clever idea!

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
thanks to all of you my friends!!!... your comments really boost my efforts!

Sorry to be such a lurker, Vik! It's been far too long since I've participated in the Dakka community!

Loving the work on the grot plane! I'm a bit surprised that there aren't more =]_,=eaguers building orky things; seems like a good opportunity to rivet This will be the start of a full grot army you say? What comes next?

Cheers,
Rawson

Hey rawson! So Good to See you back Here again.
Secretly i have planned this Army for a Long time...

I guess it will be Nice to make some killakans and of course grottanks...

 ishkatar wrote:

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
but yellow... only in details... on full scale surfaces... probably now... i tried some on the marines of my son oskar... and well... i call that an epic fail...^^

The secret of painting yellow is simple: you need a good opaque foundation paint. E.g., I use Citadel Tausept Ochre - it's a very solid basecoat paint, which is good for undercoating even for white.
Dilute it 1:1 and you'll get a great yet thin coverage. You can add a bit less water (1:0.5) for a better covering, but there's always a risk of getting very thick layer which can hide the details, so keep an eye on it.
Just use any needed yellow tone to get the desired colour afterwards - will be very easy with such a solid basecoat.
A brighter foundation browns might work too.

By the way, an awesome plane you've made! GJ! I like the stand - nvery clever idea!

When I started my Imperial Fists, it took me one model to determine I wazsn't doing yellow right. It ended up looking all right, but it took forever and I realize the more paint you have to put on to get the color right, the more you risk losing detail. I had used Iyanden Darksun as my base, and on my next set of models, I used an airbrush with the paint diluted down to give me a good basecoat over white primer. It gave a much smoother and even coat. Then I used the brighter yellows to bring it up and I think it looks much better and still looks the same shade as the first model.

Yep, yellow is something you definitely need to work up to in stages. too many people think "I can do it in one coat" and then blame the paint

Yeah, I personally like the more orange-y Golden Yellow of a lot of IF, so I used Iyanden as my basecoat, and then built up to the Golden Yellow. It's not the mustard yellow some IF are, but it isn't too bright either. I like it a lot.

well.... i am still not that confident to go yellow yet... there needs to be more patince in my veins and all that before this happens^^

at jackal... that looks awesome... almost good enough to cuddle really!....but i see ´orrible mold lines and big gaps for now my own grot fighter is in no danger due to yours for now^^

at theo:

Vik, what's the new avatar o yours from?

lookee here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/210/463277.page#5911540

also... there you all can see probably the most awesome smokelauncher effect WIP i´ve ever seen!!!

at KC... welcome king cracker!... i am honnored to have you here! and thanks for the praise!


well... yesterday i needed a good lie down... as the heat and humidity took the better of me...

but today i could paint again...which i did...

at cam... for now i used mithril sliver... but i am a bit unsure... i am atm pretty usure of the whole current paintjob... so if you have some nasty remarks... bring ´em on... i need to know!!!

i used the blue metal color...and for accent i used mithril sliver...(posh)...tell me how you like this... for the blue... it needs another coat it is rather uneven...

pics:









and without flash...





cheers, vik