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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 08:34:28
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 08.18, pg 17: Paiting the Ork!
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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Then, we should make a movie
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 15:54:19
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 08.18, pg 17: Paiting the Ork!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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@LDD: A tutorial on it would be cool indeed, though I have no idea how to put it all together in an understandable way... I'm a bad teacher. Ask Storag - he knows  But may be it worth a try... By the way, I remember, that you was the first on the list... So...  The casting quality is pretty decent though the master-model was not... Nothing bad, but a bit of roughness and bumpiness here and there. Still much better then failcast  There are twenty copies right now: one model for my painting, one for the new and better master-model and eighteen more are worth selling, I dare to think. Now we should figure out the price, billing and shipping and here we go, but the OnLine Store won't be up until the first week of October for couple of reasons anyway. Yet anyone who want to get himself a very first MyWay miniature - just let me or Storag know via PM.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/29 22:23:23
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 29.18, pg 18: Casts!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/31 19:08:57
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 29.18, pg 18: Casts!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Well, as I said before, the casts are pretty good, but my master-model itself was not. Nothing that I can't fix with a good ol' knife and a bit of polishing. The price is nine euro. As for the tutorial... I won't be able to make the decent pics due to the lack of a good camera, but I see some other way around. An easy one, I must admit, but... Here it is: Spots before your eyes – a guide to stippling. It's a good guide to the technic by Sprocket. There are also a lot of other interesting things on his blog - you should check it out! I also have to add a few words from myself: First off, every technic starts with an appropriate instrument and you need a really good instrument for this one. I use Winsor & Newton Series7 size 0 brush - a round "belly" carries a lot of paint providing required longevity, a short hair allows a better control and a very fine tip gives you an exquisite precision. I believe any qualitative Kolinsky Sable brush will do. Remember: you need a very fine tip, but not a very small brush. The smaller your brush is, the faster your paint dries, and that's not the way to paint such things. That's why you want a proper brush which can retain a stiff and thin tip. Second - paint dilution. Your paint should be diluted enough for the delicate, but explicit strokes. Too much water will make it flowy and smudgy. Not enough water will make it rough and way too crisp. I can't give you the exact recipe, since me doing it intuitively always, but 1:1 ratio is the common one. Just try a several ways on the pallette before applying it on the miniature (I use my fingernail to test the stroke usually). Third - the colouring. I strongly recommend to start with digging through a lot of reference pictures to get the exact idea of what you want - which dot and line should goes where and of which colour. E.g. you can simply make a tiny line of highlight to imitate the scratch, or you can add another line next to it of a darker-than-underlay colour to give this scratch an effect of deepness. Both ways are good and works for surfaces as well as for the edges. Adding more layers of highlights and shades will gives a better and more convincing image. The rest simply comes down to your sence of beauty and your brush controll. A little practice, experimentation and you'll probably will be surprice with the results. I call it texturing. As you can see, basically it's just a regular freehand. I believe there should be a lot of other guides about how to do the things faster, which can fit better for the tabletop purpose. While the freehanding suppose to give a better outcome, it is still the most time consuming way... But that's my way of doing it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/31 19:17:41
Subject: Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 31.18, pg 18: A gimpy guide!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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Oh...that looks cool... I have no use for that beauty other than simply wanting it... So...work out how and how much mister! Also would it be possible to convert him into a tech priest?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/31 19:38:38
Subject: Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 31.18, pg 18: A gimpy guide!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Thanks, El Vic! It's nine euro per piece. Well, the project started as "The Implacable Skitarii" so with a proper colouring (red robe, basicly) he already can go as a Tech Priest, I believe. He's only three parts (head-body, weapon-hand and palm-hand), but the material is fairly soft and thus conversion-friendly. The rest is up to you. Anyway, I will be glad to see various conversion of this fella!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/31 22:01:10
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 31.18, pg 18: A gimpy guide!
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Cheers mate for the link and explanation will come in very handy indeed, not bad price either I will take one how you taking payment Paypal?
I see him as if dearth vader and iron man had a kid this is the bad ass result, I to have no idea what to use it for but it will be used
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/01 08:14:45
Subject: Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 31.18, pg 18: A gimpy guide!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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My pleasure, LDD! Right now PayPal doesn't allow Russian users to transfer money out of the company, but that's about to change soon, gladly. We can recieve the payments though, but it will be virtual money until the 16th of September. Not a big deal, I guess, but yet... On the other hand, we can use Weestern Union. What suits you best. By the way, I'm still not sure about the shipping price. Should be around 1.5-2 Euro =/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/01 08:44:34
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 31.18, pg 18: A gimpy guide!
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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So I can send a payment as a cash form using Paypal then? Sorry i am going dumb at the moment
I don't like using western union transfers as I have heard a lot of bad things, so if I send a cash request to you using Paypal that would work then ?
Sorry to be a pain mate just so I know what I am doing is correct, make sure the postage rate covers your costs other wise you could end up out of pocket.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/02 16:38:21
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 31.18, pg 18: A gimpy guide!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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It's never mind, LDD. I'm kinda dumb with all this too - never tryed to do anything like that before... But oh well... Should get used to it asap. An unhappy customer is not our way
I have to admit, you're a lucky guy, mate - you're going to be our test subject, if you're okay with that
Right now, you only need a person's email to send him a payment. Or a person can request a payment, having your email. With the store up and running the things will be automated and much more convenient, of course.
So, it's only left to figure out the shipment...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/02 22:51:12
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 31.18, pg 18: A gimpy guide!
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Sorry I gather this is just the same as I do normally, you send me your email address and the total including post and packageing then I send a money order to you via Paypal easy.
But you need to work out the postage first  then I will be your test rat
Let me know as soon as you do, while your at it let Storag know I am still waiting for him to release the Tau syndicate bits especially the heads
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/03 00:39:37
Subject: Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 31.18, pg 18: A gimpy guide!
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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As for Base pricing... The rubric I use for my resin stuff is ML resin x Cost of resin per ML x 10-15 depending.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/07 22:29:01
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 31.18, pg 18: A gimpy guide!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hey, everyone!
Here goes a little bit of update - the Ronin, casted and polished:
This one will be the new Master Model for the further casts.
Yet we decided Ronin needs a second weapon option so I'm working on it right now and that's what I've done so far:
It supposed to be some kind of a pew-pew thingie, a plasma of some sort. That's pretty much finished form and only a bit of detail will be added.
I hope you like it
As a side note, here's a little story behind the character:
Also I guess you've seen the other good news on the Storag's thread, if not, you should check it out
Cheers, my fellow dakkanauts!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/07 22:36:00
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful! Upd. 31.18, pg 18: A gimpy guide!
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Glad to see he is ready to ship
I like the new nuclear knuckle duster  "PUNCH AND POW " which to have as weapon lay out now  I guess I will have to get 2 now
Good news on the website and good luck to you guys  not that you will need it with your 2 creations
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/07 22:49:50
Subject: Slow and Purposeful!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Aye, that was the idea - a plasma knuckles! PEW-KPOW!
Cheers, LDD!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/08 07:42:53
Subject: Slow and Purposeful!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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Wow... That is an amazing idea! If you keep this spirit of inspirational goods then you will have business forever. And I need to talk to my wife about getting two too...it's the only way
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/08 13:45:33
Subject: Slow and Purposeful!
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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Thanks for the inspiration, ish. That ork is gorge!!! I stumbled upon that same technique and used it to paint any organic cloth material on that priest i painted. It really came out how i wanted it and will be using it from now on.. Like you say, its more painting with tiny dots (or how i thought of it, as wet blending with dots) instead of "stippling" per say...I kinda stole it from you i guess...:( well mockery is the best form of flattery they say...and that BASE....yeah man....yeah!!
Bebop
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/04 22:09:09
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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@ El Vic: Thanks, my friend! Well, getting two is an option, it won't hurt @Bebop: Cheers, pal! I really like the paint job you did on that Priest, robe and face especially. As for the "painting with dots", you should check the Nakatan's gallery - he use this stuff a lot. And he is really awesome. An incredible source of inspiration! But on to the news, everyone, shall we? First off, the complete commercial version of Ronin with all options and stuff: Yep, he's available for sale, 9 Euro per fella plus shipment price. Our online store is under construction yet, but should be there soon. If you don't want to wait, just send me a private message But off with trading, back to the hobby! And here comes the grand finale of this lingering project: It's still WIP. Some details and polish to be done... And a base, of course. Bearing in mind, that a project was born with "the implacable skitarii" name, I decided to portray him in a role of an old Tech guard. So, what do you think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/04 23:02:37
Subject: Slow and Purposeful!
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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Great!!!! Nice work Ish
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/05 17:39:02
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Thanks, Bebop!
Actually, it turned out not the way I wanted, but oh well...
The first version of the armour was all worn iron-esque and looked more grimy. Just for comparison:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/05 18:01:37
Subject: Slow and Purposeful!
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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hmmmm....both are cool...how do you do that iron look? are you starting with brown then highlighting up mixing in greys/whites? or starting grey and shading down with browns? Im assuming its NMM...
Also...the red silks...highlights with white? what are your mixes? Im trying to learn how to do a high class sheen type fabric like youve done here but my mixes are off...
Thanks!
BB
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/05 18:35:03
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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I've started with the gray basecoat, than a mix of gray with reddish-brown for the gradient to darker areas and with a drop of black for the deepest shades. For the highlights I've used a mix of gray and white, with a drop of blue for the brightest areas and a mix of white with a tiny bit of blue for the most extrim highlights - just dots mostly. To be honest, I didn't aimed for NMM, just wanted a cool and grim worn and scratched iron effect, though it ended up pretty much NMMish As for the fabrics... It's the same idea with warm-cold contrast I've used on the iron armor: darker red for the basecoat (I've used a mix of Scorched Brown with Evil Sunz Scarlet), reddish-brown and a bit of black for the shades, brighter red (Evil Sunz Scarlet in that case) for the lighted areas and a mixes of white with red of various proportions for the highlights, up to a very light pink for the most extrime spots. The shades are deep and highlights are very bright for the greater contrast, which gives a bit of comics-esque effect. I have to note, this goes a bit apart with armor, painted in a more realistic manner. And that's why I'm not really fond of my current work =/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 00:17:44
Subject: Slow and Purposeful!
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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thanks! I think my mistake is im going too fast to pink and losing the red base. makes sense. time to get to work. as far what you said about disliking th project, for the very reason i like it alot. the dirty metal vs the rich upper crust robe. two extremes juxtaposed makes them even more extreme. quite fond of it
thanks!
BB
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 08:12:32
Subject: Slow and Purposeful!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Pink goes only on the very edges. It's important not to overdo, since highlighting gives "the feel" to the colour, e.g. while highlighting red with orange, a few more extra layers could make the impression of the whole object being orange. Well, I guess you know the drill
Probably I'm just too hard on myself... But the fella is almost done nevertheless.
I've got the whole mount of this guys on my table anyway, so can try to paint a new one any moment
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 16:04:40
Subject: Slow and Purposeful!
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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Haha. Thanks for being ultra clear though   Dunno if you had a chance to see the priest i painted bout 2 months back on my blog. I was trying to recreate a burlap rough cloth look that actually came out better than expected for my first attempt.
Though i understand your being hard on yourself, i too am the same way. Ive hit a wall currently of trying to learn how to paint reflective hard flat colored surfaces, like nmm carapace armor or what have you. Its extremely frustrating when your momentum tanks while trying to learn new techniques...:(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 17:02:59
Subject: Slow and Purposeful!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Yeah, I remember that priest - in a white robe, right? A great job you've done on him! Robe turned out very well. As for NMM... Have you considered trying acrylic based Tempera paints? It's slightly harder to work then regular Acrylic paints, because it dries slower, but on the other hand it gives a great opportunity to mix colours right on the miniature's surface, to gain very smooth gradients. Also it's very opaque, matt and can be easily removed while it's still wet with just a wetted brush if any mistake occured. Personally I find it more handy for NMM paiting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/09 18:37:26
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful!
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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OK test rat checking in delivery arrived today safe and sound, well packed and quick delivery not long at all.
Contents results Ronin miniature looks fantastic, great detail, clean and crisp casting and great resin quality, overall impressed some larger companies could take a leaf out of this book on all matters.
I would love to post pics but unfortunately cant find the camera or the cable  but as soon as I do will post some
On top of this there was a little extra included  we all love freebies and this consisted of some of Storags Tau Syndicates pieces.
Included was a head, set of arms and the torso and I can say these look Awesome  and the quality is the same as above top notch.
Well, done guys I can see me being a returning customer well done indeed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/09 19:51:15
Subject: Slow and Purposeful!
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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ishkatar wrote:Yeah, I remember that priest - in a white robe, right? A great job you've done on him! Robe turned out very well.
As for NMM... Have you considered trying acrylic based Tempera paints? It's slightly harder to work then regular Acrylic paints, because it dries slower, but on the other hand it gives a great opportunity to mix colours right on the miniature's surface, to gain very smooth gradients. Also it's very opaque, matt and can be easily removed while it's still wet with just a wetted brush if any mistake occured. Personally I find it more handy for NMM paiting.
i havent heard of them. I will try it out. I bought some p3 mixing medium and used it while trying some experimenting. I might have used too much but the paint practically would NOT dry lol. I see it as being useful for wetblending and NOT for basecoats and small detail work. Up until now i havent had much issue with wet blending with water and actually, as stupid as it might sound, ive even used a spray water bottle to keep the mini moist while i work. It works quite nice too as long as you dont use hard water or have some bad stufff in your h20.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/09 21:53:33
Subject: Slow and Purposeful!
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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am i a jerk for stating that i liked the gold/brass armor section better?...
but it looks spiffy nevertheless^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/09 22:25:23
Subject: Re:Slow and Purposeful!
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna
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@ Vik
Brass is the current one =) Dull metall was the first try. Seen it today. Looks much better. We'll see it finished soon I belive
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