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2012/08/24 21:50:24
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
Dave, can you PM me your supplier information on that dental stone?
You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
2012/08/24 22:19:09
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
I can tell you and everyone else right here!
I just went to http://plaster-supply.com/ Brite White Orthodontic Stone (reg)
Item# BWOS , Size: 50 lb.@ , Color: Brite White
$50 shipped UPS. They are out of PA
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2012/08/24 22:35:54
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2012/08/25 00:37:46
Subject: Re:The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
Sadly, moments after this picture was taken, ash from Willie's cigar fell into the wheelbarrow.
All we found were his glasses, charred and still smoking, 200 feet away from the crater.
Falling down is the same as being hit by a planet — "I paint to the 20 foot rule, it saves a lot of time." -- Me
ddogwood wrote:People who feel the need to cheat at Warhammer deserve pity, not anger. I mean, how pathetic does your life have to be to make you feel like you need to cheat at your toy army soldiers game?
2012/08/25 01:13:17
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2012/08/25 01:53:20
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
Yeah, with 3D sculpting, they can do amazing, perfect-fitting kits, that's for sure.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2012/08/25 02:32:21
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
Yep. You seen the kickstarter in my sig? Theyre tooling for injection moulding using 4 way pulling moulds, so you can get even more undercuts in there. Impressive.
2012/08/25 02:35:15
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
Dude! That is Awesome! Everyone should ad that link to the Banner!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2012/08/25 02:43:20
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
[ "Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike
2012/08/25 02:57:08
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
Absolutely stellar terrain work in here...
Im still reading through the thread, but I had something of a few questions:
How does the Orthodontic stone hold up to resin? That is to say, is it better/worse?
Why do you use it instead of resin? Cost? Dries faster? Better results?
Would it hold up to casting models or would you suggest only terrain?
And finally, until I inevitably think up another one, How durable does it end up being? Ive used plaster (cheap craft stuff...) before to poor results- the pieces shattered after only a little handling.
I do apologize if I repeated any questions youve already answered.
Keep up the great work!
Ramos Asura wrote: Absolutely stellar terrain work in here...
Im still reading through the thread, but I had something of a few questions:
How does the Orthodontic stone hold up to resin? That is to say, is it better/worse?
Different. It can hold as much detail but is more prone to chipping. is plenty tough for tiled floors and such though.
Ramos Asura wrote: Why do you use it instead of resin? Cost? Dries faster? Better results?
Cheaper, and much easier to clean up after, also does not wear out molds anywhere near as fast.
Ramos Asura wrote: Would it hold up to casting models or would you suggest only terrain?
It is VERY fragile when thin and unsupported.
Ramos Asura wrote: And finally, until I inevitably think up another one, How durable does it end up being? Ive used plaster (cheap craft stuff...) before to poor results- the pieces shattered after only a little handling.
I do apologize if I repeated any questions youve already answered.
Keep up the great work!
Dental stone should hold up to handling better if it is thick enough in the main structural parts (min of 1/4 in thick for free standing pieces)
The Orthodontic plaster is about 6 times harder and denser than plaster of paris. To cast Hirst Arts blocks in Resin would be stupidly expensive.
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2012/08/25 04:15:07
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
dsteingass wrote: The Orthodontic plaster is about 6 times harder and denser than plaster of paris. To cast Hirst Arts blocks in Resin would be stupidly expensive.
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I think he could be used as a Steampunk Truscale Marine as well
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I can't wait to get my new Munda Gang!
I am SOOOO happy they went retro on these!!
This is enough to get me into Chaos!
I even like these Marines' poses!
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2012/08/25 14:09:40
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
Ah, i'm sure Vik would find a use for those wooden butterchurnersteampunklegs
Eh...
Inmygravenimage: That's sweet dude. I bet her ass is bad...
Camkierhi - What a load of rubbish... Amazing!
Rogue Wolves - Its rediculous how much character you pack into those guys
Skalk Bloodaxe: I know those will be awesome when finished, but right now they look like crackers.
Necro-pocalypse weirdness:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424470.page
2012/08/25 14:43:38
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2012/08/25 15:20:18
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
I can't wait to get my new Munda Gang!
I am SOOOO happy they went retro on these!!
Funny, I was thinking just the opposite: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/472174.page Love the models, just don't want to pay that much. Maybe when people start selling them on ebay (not like anyone would do that- look at the one in the trenchcoat, he's epic!)
"Da anvil 'it'z 'ard, but da 'amma getz dere first... And 'it'z 'arder!"- Boss Grubsnik: Warlord uv da Bloo Bonez!
Rivets within, Rivets without, What is this steampunk thing all about?
my steampunk blog: somebody should really comment on this thing... http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/416574.page Plastic sisters of battle!
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/457445.page
2012/08/25 15:36:55
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
OMG Dave, the casts look fantastic! I will have to pm you and work out how much I can grease your palm with to send me some :-) it's only scant weeks away from decent weather down here and that's always when my terrain bug bites me firmly on the ass!
Not to mention I did the most terrible, terrible thing any hobbyist should do when they have 4,500 points of marines!..... I got a copy of Cities of Death! now there's no hope for me at all..... I want/need an epic city board now! i've even been looking for parts to use, I love the gothic tower the spanish guy has made (I forget his name) and I found some 'roads' small cobblestone but should still work when put together, only problem is they're only 16cmx24cm so i'm gonna need a load of 'em! :-)
on a terrain note, can anyone enlighten me on the proportions of 1/35 scale compared to our heroic scale? I'm looking mainly at terrain accesories so crates barrels etc. would they look out of place amongst 40k terrain? considering the normal human populace is smaller than the marines? or will it just look tiny and out of place?
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"Nah, I'm just way too lazy to stand up so I keep sitting and paint" - Sigur
"I think the NMM technique with metals is just MNMM. Same sound I make while eating a good pizza" - Whalemusic360
2012/08/25 15:48:49
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
nerdfest09 wrote: OMG Dave, the casts look fantastic! I will have to pm you and work out how much I can grease your palm with to send me some :-) it's only scant weeks away from decent weather down here and that's always when my terrain bug bites me firmly on the ass!
Not to mention I did the most terrible, terrible thing any hobbyist should do when they have 4,500 points of marines!..... I got a copy of Cities of Death! now there's no hope for me at all..... I want/need an epic city board now! i've even been looking for parts to use, I love the gothic tower the spanish guy has made (I forget his name) and I found some 'roads' small cobblestone but should still work when put together, only problem is they're only 16cmx24cm so i'm gonna need a load of 'em! :-)
on a terrain note, can anyone enlighten me on the proportions of 1/35 scale compared to our heroic scale? I'm looking mainly at terrain accesories so crates barrels etc. would they look out of place amongst 40k terrain? considering the normal human populace is smaller than the marines? or will it just look tiny and out of place?
That would be KM2500 (the spanish guy)
The Pegasus hobbies accessory bits look about right I believe they are 1:48...
BTW the first test cast of the "dusky Rootbeer" machine is done. I'll be posting some side by side pics of the master+ the 1st cast in my thread momentarily.
@Nerd Thanks man! PM me what you need, we'll figure something out! I can weigh and ship from the shop here now, even internationally, we can get what you need in your budget
1/35 accessories are perfect for our heroic 28mm figure size. The fence kit I built was 1/35, the crates stowed on the Orkmower are 1/35, they are perfect.
Union Miners
Miners & Steamfitters Union Special Forces.
They can bury themselves and burrow under the battlefield to any other M&SU member
Automatically Appended Next Post: Since so many are curious, I thought I'd document what I'm doing:
I weigh out a cup of Powder 200g
Here I have pre-measured 4 pours, ready for a quick mix and pouring
Then I add 1/3 cup cold water, watch it bubble for 30 seconds
With this stuff, the more vigorous the stirring, the less air bubbles
Pour onto the ridges of the mold, let gravity and physics force the air out naturally
Putty Knife FTW!
The production line.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
2012/08/25 17:59:09
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
Looks exciting! I think i'll have to sit down again and write you an epic terrain laden PM again with oodles of questions and ideas that hopefully will see light of day! :-) and you can bet i'll be grabbing some of your stuff pronto!
Flesh Eaters 4,500 points
" I will constantly have those in my head telling me how lazy and ugly and whorish I am. You sir, are a true friend " - KingCracker
"Nah, I'm just way too lazy to stand up so I keep sitting and paint" - Sigur
"I think the NMM technique with metals is just MNMM. Same sound I make while eating a good pizza" - Whalemusic360
2012/08/25 19:24:30
Subject: The Necromunda Project: -=]_,=- Orthondontic Stone casting extravaganza
so these things are called putty knifes? god to know...
and the production line looks very good... i like your way of getting rid of the airbubbles... good thinking there!
would you say that this whole business with casting and mixing plaster is possible without a scales? i don´t own one and i think without one it would be way more complicated to achieve stable quality? what´s your opinion?
those miniers are a nice thing... aren´t we all like minis that don´t look too much like fighting all the time?
oh and i cross my fingers for your auction to go well...!
My P&M Blog :
He can actually blow up terrain in-game!
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