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Decrepit Dakkanaut







If you are happy with it, then that is all that matters.

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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 nerdfest09 wrote:
 dsteingass wrote:
I don't think you really know what you are talking about dood, a console is static, obsolete hardware, limited Blah Blah, limited Blah thingy, limited Watzit blah!. it is a non-Doohickey, disposable,Blah watchamacallit, regardless of who makes it. It's like my toaster, it will only ever make toast, until it breaks, then I'll throw it away and get a new one that will only ever make toast.


O.k that's what i read when i saw that post......


LMFAO... dude, them's some chajones you have there

"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
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Oh I meant no offence to Dave, but the only technomarvel I am familiar with from his post was..... toaster lol :-)

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" I will constantly have those in my head telling me how lazy and ugly and whorish I am. You sir, are a true friend " - KingCracker

"Nah, I'm just way too lazy to stand up so I keep sitting and paint" - Sigur

"I think the NMM technique with metals is just MNMM. Same sound I make while eating a good pizza" - Whalemusic360 
   
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal







Just to poke my oar in here.
I'm a fan of both PC and console gaming but I feel they both have their strengths and weaknessess.
Consoles are great because they make gaming easy, you can pick up a game for your chosen console and you know it'll work (or at least should) and when you want to play a game you can just stick it in and off you go.
PCs are great in their versatility and power, they will always have the potential to do more than a console. However, you need to know more about how it all works to get the best from your PC and you don't know if the game you've just bought will work on your particular PC.
You don't nessassarily have to constantly upgrade your PC much to keep playing the latest games and sometimes an upgrade can be really cheap and allow you to play the latest games and make all your current games also much better than they were. Whereas when the latest console comes out you have to forget your current console and buy the new one which will be far more expensive than most upgrades you could buy for a PC.

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Lols when Someone says toaster they usually mean this:



when I hear people say toaster I think this:


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare






I have had a PS2 for 12 years and used it solely to play movies on lol, and it still works without missing a beat! I figured with the new PS3 I got i should probably look into learning how to use the damn thing! I'll probably change up when the PS47 comes out! :-)

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" I will constantly have those in my head telling me how lazy and ugly and whorish I am. You sir, are a true friend " - KingCracker

"Nah, I'm just way too lazy to stand up so I keep sitting and paint" - Sigur

"I think the NMM technique with metals is just MNMM. Same sound I make while eating a good pizza" - Whalemusic360 
   
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal







Why is that toaster called "john"?

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Oh my god, that toaster says John... that is so cool!

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" I will constantly have those in my head telling me how lazy and ugly and whorish I am. You sir, are a true friend " - KingCracker

"Nah, I'm just way too lazy to stand up so I keep sitting and paint" - Sigur

"I think the NMM technique with metals is just MNMM. Same sound I make while eating a good pizza" - Whalemusic360 
   
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Somewhere In Time And Space

 Dr H wrote:
Why is that toaster called "john"?


they are taking over the world...


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare






"John us while we tak ova the woorld"

maybe it has an impediment?


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Whoa ^fast :-)

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" I will constantly have those in my head telling me how lazy and ugly and whorish I am. You sir, are a true friend " - KingCracker

"Nah, I'm just way too lazy to stand up so I keep sitting and paint" - Sigur

"I think the NMM technique with metals is just MNMM. Same sound I make while eating a good pizza" - Whalemusic360 
   
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Somewhere In Time And Space

 nerdfest09 wrote:
"John us while we tak ova the woorld"

maybe it has an impediment?


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Whoa ^fast :-)


tbh, its to do with personalised settings, saved to names. Which is just fracking ludicrous


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal







 nerdfest09 wrote:
I have had a PS2 for 12 years and used it solely to play movies on lol, and it still works without missing a beat! I figured with the new PS3 I got i should probably look into learning how to use the damn thing! I'll probably change up when the PS47 comes out! :-)


Indeed, I still have and still use a megadrive, a PS2 (which I only recently replaced a PS1 with), a Wii, an xbox and bits of my PC are at least 15-20 years old and I built a 2nd PC from the spare parts as I upgraded. You don't have to throw them away.

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Somewhere In Time And Space

I have my PS2, but use it only for the early FF games... I stick to the X-box now because its quick, easy and seamless... and I now have the urge to customise the shell so It looks like a Cylon toaster thanks to Dave


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal







Yeah, I tend to use my consoles for platform and driving games and the PC for first-person type games.
And a cylon toaster or console would be cool.

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* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial *
Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all
Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!  
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut







We have a lot of different things going on here:


Moore's Law states that:
"The number of transistors that fit into an integrated circuit doubles every 18 months"

This is a technology we call miniaturization, it's why your smartphone has 100X the computing power than the Apollo missions to the Moon had 40+ years ago.
This means that hardware will always need upgraded to keep up with software, but software can only be developed for hardware that can run it, that is why your observation is correct about always having to upgrade PC hardware, but you are equating that with a quality perception somehow, that is where you are incorrect in your assumptions. Every single console game in existence was developed on a PC, which by necessity MUST be more powerful than the console hardware it is designed to run on (otherwise how would you compile that code into what we know as a game?). It isn't a valid argument that "console X is better than PC" because you cannot have one without the other. It can't be a matter of opinion, because it is empirical fact, and it can be measured by scientific means. I could go on and on, the curse of 16 years of doing this stuff professionally.

Now, from a consumer's perspective, there are a lot of other variables, empirically, all consoles and all PCs have exactly the same components, but some are faster.

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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44.328850 / -73.110190

So I'm guessing my 8-bit Nintendo (w/ original Zelda game!) is out of this discussion?


 Gitsplitta wrote:
That's.... dirt... Skalk. Actual dust. (09/08/2021)
 
   
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 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
So I'm guessing my 8-bit Nintendo (w/ original Zelda game!) is out of this discussion?


If it still works, then it's fine. I still use a megadrive.

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I'll admit, I know little about the internals, but from a consumers point of view, it is both cheaper, and more desirable to have a console over a PC. Yes I own a PC, but only use it for Research, ordering online etc, the usual mundane crap. But also, I hate to have all my eggs in one basket. If I used my PC for games, and for whatever reason it breaks down, I'd be without numerous options. Whereas I keep the gaming element separate from the PC I have lessened the chance of that happening, which is why I also have a laptop and several Tb external hard drives (I process a lot of raw image data for photography).

In the end its preference from my point of view, much like Coffee or Tea... although in the latter I chose neither




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 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
So I'm guessing my 8-bit Nintendo (w/ original Zelda game!) is out of this discussion?







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 Dr H wrote:
 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
So I'm guessing my 8-bit Nintendo (w/ original Zelda game!) is out of this discussion?


If it still works, then it's fine. I still use a megadrive.


My friend has several Dreamcasts which he uses for parts to keep his original going lols

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"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
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Mastering Non-Metallic Metal







 AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:


My friend has several Dreamcasts which he uses for parts to keep his original going lols



Yeah, I aquired a 2nd megadrive when the original I had started playing up.
I also have aquired 3 PS2s, so that should keep me going a while.

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Berlin Germany

i can understand your thought process... but still... console= kids...PC= man

and i think i will be strict on this


and ... they look indeed like my rivettos... holy crap!!! when do i get my royalty???

   
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Somewhere In Time And Space

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
i can understand your thought process... but still... console= kids...PC= man

and i think i will be strict on this


That just makes you a stubborn old man


"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut







Vik is right Childe, the Elite play PC...sorry.....

I propose a challenge!, go play Modern Warfare 3 or any other popular FPS online on XBox, get good to the point where you are just owning everyone, then play it online on a PC, I bet you $100 USD that you'd get your ass handed to you swiftly!



"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

er...probably... which is as right as the above statement of me ...

rule one: i am right...always...

rule two: if i am not right...look at rule one...

´nuff said...

   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut







HAHA Vik is right
..Don't make him tell you twice!


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..A Smartphone may be more powerful than the moon landing, and they do a LOT of things...but they just aren't as cool or useful as landing a man on the moon

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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare






What a delightful fruitious conversation we have going here all because I don't know who big daddy was! :-) but you know what they say... you learn something new each day! this thread is like my very own Encyclopedia britanica!

Flesh Eaters 4,500 points


" I will constantly have those in my head telling me how lazy and ugly and whorish I am. You sir, are a true friend " - KingCracker

"Nah, I'm just way too lazy to stand up so I keep sitting and paint" - Sigur

"I think the NMM technique with metals is just MNMM. Same sound I make while eating a good pizza" - Whalemusic360 
   
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Berlin Germany

so if i toss the smartphone of someone in the air it won´t hit the moon?


guess i should quit that behavior now...

   
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Somewhere In Time And Space

And because it is Elitist, I don't play it...

online Elitist players suck the ever living fun out of online gaming. They, for the most part, are idiots.

Sorry, my opinion. Oh and I used to play online with games like Counterstrike and so on... then the life got sucked out of it through its ass. Now I couldn't careless for PC gaming. I'd rather play a game thats fully imersive from beginning to end without relying on other users than do Co-op with a bunch of no-brains.

and please this is not aimed at you personally Dave or the majority of other Americans on here that I know as a friend, but it seems the vast amount of online players that make PC co-op gaming unbearable are in face american elitist (game) snobs. It does my nut in.

"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut







HAHA It'll be ok Childe!

As long as you agree with this:

meme I made

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
Made in de
Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

by the way... tho i still won´t play a console... i too think that online gaming can suck out your life... been there, done that, bought the ticket...

wow definatly teached me a lesson here...


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 dsteingass wrote:
HAHA It'll be ok Childe!

As long as you agree with this:

meme I made



LOL.... actually that makes me a wussy then... as i only ever did that once... i am even ingame disgusted by this^^

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Somewhere In Time And Space

 dsteingass wrote:
HAHA It'll be ok Childe!

As long as you agree with this:

meme I made


ANYTHING Fallout related I will agree with... within reason... so long as it doesnt include those chaps I saw one guy wearing in FO3




"This is why I hate the novels. They squash our imagination and creativity and create way to many fluff lawyers. To many "you can't do that because Fluffy Kitty novel says Captain Ichypants lost his pointer finger in the battle of Dogtown"." The Papa-Nid Project: A P&M Blog. Hive_Fleet_-_ΔΣ0113/Ω84:_The_Fall_of_Calliope_VI.
 
   
 
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