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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

Cpt Horatius wrote:
Sorry to be off topic here but, KalishnikovMarine, what chems do you use for your paint removal? Exceptional work by the way, very inspiring to a mediocre painter like myself.

I use simple green. and I'm really not that good. Just ask any one around here.

Edit: Simple green, a stiff brush and a heavy gauge sewing needle for the tight corners. I hear dental picks are brilliant for that sort of thing though, so perhaps ask your local dentist if he'll cut you a deal on a pick he can't use on people any more.

Thanks for the tip! And don't under-rate your skills, wish I had half that talent (damn my meat-hooks)

@Pretre Oh, isn't it only 3 flamer templates on overwatch?
From memory, I thought you can only fire one template during it

Overwatch obeys the rules for normal shooting, so you are allowed to use all the weapons you can and the rules you can.

So 5 templates with Celestine.

 Shandara wrote:
Overwatch obeys the rules for normal shooting, so you are allowed to use all the weapons you can and the rules you can.

So 5 templates with Celestine.

Yeah, Seraphim can be nasty on overwatch 4x D3 S3 AP6 Overwatch, 1x D3 S5 AP4 Overwatch plus any bolt pistols in the unit.

pretre wrote:For the conclave, why not a mix of Axe/Maul, Axe/Sword and Maul/Sword?

Also, my standard admonition against doubling the price of a vehicle.

Have you found IP good on the Seraphim? The Hand Flamers are just awesome right now.

I didn't have time to model them so it comes down to that is what I had so Im going to run with it.

I know you dont agree with me on the Vehicles. This is the way I look at it. I use them as gun platforms I can hit something table wide turn 1 with HKs I can shoot 8 dice at something or 24 if I want to turn all three squads onto something. They can move and fire I have Heavy weapons inside that can suppress vehicles or take out high priority targets. Turn 1 and turn 2 most of the time they will have a 4+ cover save so they are protected. If one HK kills something than it will probably have paid for all 3. I like my Dozer blades because when I need to move getting hung up on a piece of terrain isn't cool so to me its worth 5 pnts to keep if from happening. This style rhino fits will with the Double stormbolter BSS squads that I have inside. PNT for PNT they make it back almost every time They give me a level of protection. They give me mobility and even a glance wont stun them so they have more serviceability than you think. Hows this just run them 1 time if you hate it then never do it again and you can bash it all you want.

Yes I agree with you about HF being crazy good however I wanted them to do more than that.. Become a pocket knife for me I think this will play towards having to deal with something like mech guard. I deep strike dangerously for the most part go big or go home. FLs dont get the job done and I want the STR 8 AP 1 coming in off the drop. I dont have any Doms in this list so I cant really due the whole out flanking stuff. If they come in and take some thing out great if they dont well oh my they are a harassment unit that I will use to *#$& with people nothing more nothing less.

 Spidey0804 wrote:
{A lot of stuff justifying his army choice.}

Don't sweat it man. Necron Air Force is going to win anyway.

Yeah Im not so sure about that reason is those vehicles dont count toward scoring. The Air force build has like 1200 pnt rolled up into vehicles. Yes it will be crazy tough to beat but all and all Im not sold on it.


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Personally I think it would get blown out of the sky against a Imperial guard air force


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and thirdly this is some of the best painted models I have in my army LOL so I was kind of leaning that way for more than just a completely beat face list LOL.. I took a list that was very similar to this to the 11th company GT and place 4th overall with it so who knows it might work It might not.


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All I want to do is place higher than 85th this year LOL

That guy playing sisters with Coteaz is in top 8 of round 6 at nova.


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And he made 6-0.


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Necron air force got blown out of the air game 6 by Njal.

Sisters made 3rd in battle in the open.

Having some games tomorrow night and debating the following:

3 Sister Squads in Rhinos

-or-

2 Sisters Squads on foot
+ Uriah and Conclave

The rest of the army stays the same (Celestine + Seraphim, 2x Doms in Immolators, 2x Exorcist, HB Retributors with ADL/Quad-gun).

Having the countercharge ability is very nice, but only having 2 troops (and on foot to boot) is just making me shiver. I'd be reduced to basically playing the denial game.

What do you guys think?

Another option is ditching Celestine+Seraphim of course, but she's been very successful lately for me.

I'd do the three squads in Rhinos. They have a bit more versatility and maneuverability. Celestine and Seraphim make a great counter-charge unit as is.

Agreeing with lamp on your question Shandra.

Gah I'm jealous of all the matches going on, I still have a massive series of painting blitzes to get through to be even close to done.

Well, one more Celestian squad and I'm done painting normal infantry myself.

Been saving the best for after that (Penitent Engines and Repentia).

 Spidey0804 wrote:

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Personally I think it would get blown out of the sky against a Imperial guard air force

Not berating but you've got to remember that guard vehicles dont do so well when a S10 AP1 hit os drawn along their entire flight of vendettas/valkyre. Ive tried both and IMHO necron air force is better because the doom scythe is just much more versatile. Instead of having to buy a chassis to account for vehicles and a chassis to account for infantry you get it all rolled up into one nice s10 ap1 line, that you dont even need to roll to hit for.

Well just got back from NOVA and I want to say I had a complete blast. Props to the 2 Sisters Players that were 4 and 0 going into bracketing..

Frgsinwntr was running his Pure Sisters List and there was New guy I didn't get to talk with that was Running GK Allies with both did great. I was in the 3 and 1 bracket but wasn't able to due much after that went 3 and 3 for the Open.

However I was able to get a pick up with with Frgsinwntr and his list against mine. I got pictures and will be posting a battle Rep later this week. I just want to say It was great to see a huge amount of vindication for the ladies with 2 guys in the 4-0 Bracket.


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BTW Frgsinwntr was in the Invitational also so double kudos for that. I'm already looking forward to next year!

Cheers all around. Sounds like It was great. Wiah I wasn't on vacation when that was going on otherwise I woudlve entered sister-crons. Glad you enjoyed it.

 Spidey0804 wrote:
Props to the 2 Sisters Players that were 4 and 0 going into bracketing..
New guy I didn't get to talk with that was Running GK Allies with both did great.

The new guy was Jeremy Veysseire from Portland, OR. He ended up going 6-0 on the first two and then lost to Tony on game 7.

His list:
Celestine
Coteaz
Henchmen Squad - 5 Aco, 3 Jokers
10 BSS - Melta/MM, Combi-Plas
10 BSS - Melta/MM, Combi-Plas
10 BSS - Melta x2, Combi-Plas, Rhino with SL
10 Doms - 4 Flamers, 1 Combi-Melta, Rhino with SL
10 Seraphim - 2 HF, Eviscerator, PP
Exorcist
Exorcist
5 Rets - 4 HB
Dreadknight - Heavy Incin, Greatsword, Teleporter
Bastion with Icarus

I only count 1 gk troop choice in the henchies....
What am I missing?

You only need one troop for allies.
So HQ - Coteaz
Troop - Henchies
Heavy - DK

Yeah I really like it I'm modifying to to take it to the 11th Company GT in November

 pretre wrote:

 Spidey0804 wrote:
Props to the 2 Sisters Players that were 4 and 0 going into bracketing..
New guy I didn't get to talk with that was Running GK Allies with both did great.

The new guy was Jeremy Veysseire from Portland, OR. He ended up going 6-0 on the first two and then lost to Tony on game 7.

His list:
Celestine
Coteaz
Henchmen Squad - 5 Aco, 3 Jokers
10 BSS - Melta/MM, Combi-Plas
10 BSS - Melta/MM, Combi-Plas
10 BSS - Melta x2, Combi-Plas, Rhino with SL
10 Doms - 2 Flamers, 1 Combi-Melta, Rhino with SL
10 Seraphim - 2 HF, Eviscerator, PP
Exorcist
Exorcist
5 Rets - 4 HB
Dreadknight - Heavy Incin, Greatsword, Teleporter
Bastion with Icarus

That's a pretty interesting list. Interesting that only one squad of BBS has a rhino...

I hadn't really given much thought into running allies, but the idea is starting to appeal to me. Not sure I could build a 'competitive list' with the armies I collect (SoB and BA), but atleast with BA I can shoehorn a flier into my list.

I am surprised that with 10 Doms he did not max out the special weapons - especially since it seems like it would be a better swap for the Plasma Pistol on the Seraphim Superior.

I am assuming Celestine with the Seraphim, Coteaz with Henchmen arming the Icarus, with the HB rets lined up behind them.

Snap Fire has definitely made MM a bit more attractive - I regret not grabbing the 4 I saw on sale a year ago for 5 bucks a pop.

Whoops, good catch. That should be 4 flamers. (edited my post)


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 calypso2ts wrote:
I am assuming Celestine with the Seraphim, Coteaz with Henchmen arming the Icarus, with the HB rets lined up behind them.

Coteaz was on top of the Bastion with Icarus. HB rets were inside.

 Shandara wrote:
Having some games tomorrow night and debating the following:

3 Sister Squads in Rhinos

-or-

2 Sisters Squads on foot
+ Uriah and Conclave

The rest of the army stays the same (Celestine + Seraphim, 2x Doms in Immolators, 2x Exorcist, HB Retributors with ADL/Quad-gun).

Having the countercharge ability is very nice, but only having 2 troops (and on foot to boot) is just making me shiver. I'd be reduced to basically playing the denial game.

What do you guys think?

Another option is ditching Celestine+Seraphim of course, but she's been very successful lately for me.

I'm facing a similar dilema while coming up for a list for a tourney in a little over a month. I've got pretty much an identical list to you (not surprising it is sisters after all) except instead of Rhinos I'm fielding Repressors as some FW stuff is allowed and I've been doing great with them in 6th.

Well the list worked decently with 3 BSS squads in Rhinos. Managed to table a CSM+demon player in 4 turns, but that was more thanks his awful rolling.

I'm still struggling on a proper way to use them. So far every game they were 1-shot wonders, driving up and toasting/melting something and then getting wiped out.

A bit like the Dominion squads, really.

I haven't actually been able to take an objective with them in missions where it was needed. Even with support from other squads they are just so weak.

 Shandara wrote:
Well the list worked decently with 3 BSS squads in Rhinos. Managed to table a CSM+demon player in 4 turns, but that was more thanks his awful rolling.

I'm still struggling on a proper way to use them. So far every game they were 1-shot wonders, driving up and toasting/melting something and then getting wiped out.

A bit like the Dominion squads, really.

I haven't actually been able to take an objective with them in missions where it was needed. Even with support from other squads they are just so weak.

Glad to hear that things worked out for you. Silly question regarding your problem with BSS, are your disembarking?

Remember the old SoB maxim "she who bails, fails".

I only disembarked when it was safe to do so, i.e. to finish off weakened squads.

 Shandara wrote:
I only disembarked when it was safe to do so, i.e. to finish off weakened squads.

Right, but as soon as you do that, they get finished off.

Naturally, but I did so fully expecting them to.