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**Vindicare-Obsession**

I just noticed that repentia cant get DT's.....
I may have to re-think using them in my list. Not a fan of a unit that wont make it to the enemy 9/10 times. Pre, what do you mean spendy? You think they cost too much?

**Shandara**

Heavy flamers are expensive compared to meltaguns, you can easily make your likely 1-shot squad too expensive.

**pretre**

Vindicare-Obsession wrote:
I just noticed that repentia cant get DT's.....
I may have to re-think using them in my list. Not a fan of a unit that wont make it to the enemy 9/10 times. Pre, what do you mean spendy? You think they cost too much?

Yeah, repentia couldn't get a DT when DT were required for assault units and now they wouldn't want one even if they could get it.

20 points a piece for Heavy Flamers on rets is just not worth it.

**Vindicare-Obsession**

240 pts could be a bit difficult to make up. I'd have to choose their target very well....
Hmm......
I just dont like running them with a heavy weapon. I feel like it limits them too much.

**Shandara**

I usually park my retributors with the quad-gun and having them blast stuff to pieces. Exorcists/Dominions usually have the enemy's first priority.

Without a transport they are also about half the price of a baking oven (unless you pad them with extra bodies to catch bullets).

**Vindicare-Obsession**

T^T
I miss the old days. So you guys think spending 240 on a unit that is likely to get hard targeted the first time it hits is too much?

**pretre**

Yes, way too spendy.

Also, Bastions + HB Rets are awesome. You get 4 more heavy bolters (2 of which can generally fire at any target).

**Shandara**

It will kill something squishy, but will it kill 240 points worth?

If you fight mostly horde infantry (IG foot, Orks, etc..) with only 4+ saves, then it may

If you fight 3+ stuff, then even my Seraphims with Celestine causing a whopping 39 hits may only kill a few (I cried a tear about that yesterday).

**Vindicare-Obsession**

It would be nice if they were scoring unit.

**pretre**

They are in one mission.

**Vindicare-Obsession**

Yes. I dont think I can dependably roll Big Guns Never Tire for every game though

People would start asking questions.

**Shandara**

Give them the loaded dice and insist they roll to prevent cheating so that unless you play the same person every single time it would take longer for them to notice.

**MrMoustaffa**

What is the "easy bake oven". sounds like it would be a lot of fun to run

Is it the heavy weapon sister squad with maxed heavy flamers?

Also, are Seraphrin (forgive my horrific spelling) any good? always wanted to try jump infantry and they look way better than the ork ones.

**pretre**

Yeah, easy bake was used a lot in 3rd edition. Retributors with 4 Heavy Flamers and an optional Combi-Flamer on the superior. Jump out and make something disappear.

Seraphim are pretty good right now if you take Celestine.

**SagesStone**

Can probably still make it work. Overwatch makes that oven slightly more fun perhaps.

**pretre**

Yeah, the problem really is the cost of the unit + the fact that it is 5 T3 models that have to get out of their transport to do their job.

So they jump out, kill the crud out of something (if their faith goes off) and then get shot to death by the first thing that looks in their direction. Why even bother assaulting?

**SagesStone**

Because not everyone has the knowledge to think to shoot such a thing when they think of how pathetic they'd be in melee. It's not that great, just sounds fun.

**pretre**

Oh, the unit is hilarious when it works.

You're talking (depending on target unit) 20-30 hits with prob 3-5 rends and 7-10 other wounds. Ouchy.

**Vindicare-Obsession**

Well I was thinking if you used the hull of the Immo to block LOS it could easily be very devestating without having that many drawbacks. Thats how I do it anyway and it drives people nuts.

Now if only Vulkan's ability passed onto allies

**pretre**

If you flat out the immo to block LOS, then the immo doesn't get to shoot. It isn't a bad idea, but just has a downside.

**Shandara**

Plus if you disembark to toast something, the vehicle can't move further anyways. You'd have to use another vehicle to do it.

**pretre**

Ooh, good call, I forgot about that.

My days of disembark and tank shock are long behind me. :(

**Shandara**

I still remember my tank shocking skimmers hitting with S10, shame they got rid of that.

**Vindicare-Obsession**

Why not disembark 6 onto the side of it? I mean park it sideways to your target and then move the sisters around the side with their 6' disembark.

**pretre**

Because then you are still exposed? If you're going to do that, just disembark in front of the vehicle...

**Vindicare-Obsession**

I dont think I understand. How are you in danger if the Immo blocks LOS? If you are up against the side of the vehicle then you have decent cover from your enemies main shooting force while effectively cutting off the target unit.

**pretre**

Ahh, I see what you're saying. It is better than nothing, I suppose. Keep in mind that that helps against a static force, but most forces in 40k are not static.

**Vindicare-Obsession**

Still nothing like watching the ork players face as you roast and entire unit of anything with 5 girls. Priceless.

**Spidey0804**

pzbw7z wrote:
Here's an additional viewpoint on Battle Sisters squads with over ten members;

[rant]
Are you out of your mind? Do you EVER want to win?

The millstone around the whole list's neck is the cost of the Battle Sister squad. This limits the number of troop units and consequently the number of objectives that can be held. Twenty-member Battle-Sister squads cannot hold two objectives. They cannot target two different units. They cannot even carry more special weapons than a ten-member unit.

Putting twenty models in a Battle Sister squad is maximizing the WORST aspect of the codex. It's self-flagellation, which may seem in character with an army themed on the medieval church but is also self-defeating.
[/rant]

Then you will absolutely hate my list LOL I have 20 man squads Melta MM VBS Power axe Plasma Pistol Melta bombs stuck in there is a Priest with Eviscerator Combi-plasma Melta Bombs yeah that's times 2 also and Uriah and Kyrnof... LOLOLOL BTW Killed 3 Demon Princes this week IN CC with them LOL to go 3 and 0 in a local RTT LOLOLOLOLOL Tabled a Nids player turn 5 Tabled in game 2. Bastion and Monkeys is straight broken LOL...

**pretre**

Wow. My brain hurts reading that.