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 Viktor von Domm wrote:
i would just add the purple wash as suggested and then some off white very thin highlights to the edges... then it will sell as a crystal...

in how many layers did you do the current washed look of all the bone parts? must´ve taken ages...

2 coats of sephia. Took me about 45 minutes to do the legs and the tank in just the wash. Now to paint it up tonight for you lads.

ah... that sounds good...

by the way... are you married (yet)?

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
ah... that sounds good...

by the way... are you married (yet)?

Yes/No. We live together and stuff, but have not tied the knott. Its gunna be a graduation gift to us.

Awesome on the crystal idea and the tying of the knot

I like the crystal.

And I guess depending on how far away graduation is, congratulations on the marriage! You will find it is truly the best gift you can give one another.

shasolenzabi wrote:Awesome on the crystal idea and the tying of the knot

40kFSU wrote:I like the crystal.

And I guess depending on how far away graduation is, congratulations on the marriage! You will find it is truly the best gift you can give one another.

well i am touching the crystal up now..


Errr... i didn't tie the knott yet?

Grad is about 2 years from now roughly.

Ah, I thought since it was brought up both were relatively close.

 40kFSU wrote:
Ah, I thought since it was brought up both were relatively close.

2 years seems to be

Alright got some painting work to show off for ya here in a minute. I did all the touches to the "rock" it now looks more rocky/crystal and awesome.

actually kids are the best gift... (you may need to know that in german gift is to be translated into poison...)

and you planned your marriage two years in advance?... that´s some patience...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
actually kids are the best gift... (you may need to know that in german gift is to be translated into poison...)

and you planned your marriage two years in advance?... that´s some patience...

I actually want some of that poison! Kids are awesome.

More like 3...probably more. We should play poker! (in American that means lets play with money and drink, also known as warhammer or miniatures hobby)


So I learned much painting this turret much of it from the great teacher of FINNAN! but more so just going at it.

Highlighting with a color is awesome
Blending is more awesome! time consuming but worth it
and dakka offers good advice! Here is the results (Thank you Dr. H Finnan, Vik, Shas, 40k and All followers.)

yes...crystal is looking cool... but that damned cockpit canopy is the killer... there you simply outdone yourself! even that crappy pic shows a cool paintjob!...the effect is really looking like glass with reflections ! one thing tho... what happened to all the flat surfaces? did you use textured paint???

and as for kids... my son oskar is sitting next to me atm and is asking for the backside of yon tank...he is so sweet sometimes... he had a hard time today at the kindergarten... lots of play at the sandbox and so on... I would suggest get two of them and see afterwards if you are still hungry you will see even after the first one some pieces of your former life will be missing.. or if you are lucky only halved like your sex life^^... but the next kid then is proof that it still wasn´t killed completely

Good job pushing yourself Panda. That's the way to get better.

Good work on the bone surfaces. The more layers you use the smoother the shading looks (and the longer it takes...).

Good effort on the crystal. I can see the shading you've done on the colours and the edge highlights look pretty neat. The only thing I would change is that I (personally) would have made the lines between the colours not quite so light (but don't change it on my account) as it kind of looks like it's cracked.

and I like the black areas on the turret, it's turning into a nice scheme.
Oh yeah, and the canopy glass is very good too.

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
yes...crystal is looking cool... but that damned cockpit canopy is the killer... there you simply outdone yourself! even that crappy pic shows a cool paintjob!...the effect is really looking like glass with reflections ! one thing tho... what happened to all the flat surfaces? did you use textured paint???

and as for kids... my son oskar is sitting next to me atm and is asking for the backside of yon tank...he is so sweet sometimes... he had a hard time today at the kindergarten... lots of play at the sandbox and so on... I would suggest get two of them and see afterwards if you are still hungry you will see even after the first one some pieces of your former life will be missing.. or if you are lucky only halved like your sex life^^... but the next kid then is proof that it still wasn´t killed completely

As far as the paint goes, I don't have a clue! the plastic was abnormally shiny, was probably mold releaser and I should have washed it, but years of not washing GW kits I ignored it. When the primer set it was like that. And at a distance of six inches or so you cant even tell it is rough, so I am rolling with it. Mind you I take these pictures at about 1-2 inches away with no zoom, I could stand to invest in a real camera kit!

Thanks about the glass. I wanted to practice highlighting a black with a color, and blue was my color so the canopy was a good practice for me. It made the plates much easier to do once I knew what I was doing. I can also provide a tutorial on the glass if people are so inclined.

Oscar wants the back?! (I better paint that )

Ah, I don't know since I was about 15? I wanted to be a dad and teach kids. I became a Math tutor for most of my class mates and other grades, and a computer Techy. Now at college I am like screw being a Dad, but from time to time it is an entertaining thought. The price just seems so taxing, but rewarding much like painting!

If he needs someone to bully the little punks back at the sandbox I will help! However, I find that kids are jerks because they are jealous of how awesome someone is. Oscar must be a very cool dude! Even points out good educational points like I don't take rear shots...

Sadly my painting will be on hold this evening, I have to scramble together a 1750pt list/build the freaking models


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 Dr H wrote:
Good job pushing yourself Panda. That's the way to get better.

Good work on the bone surfaces. The more layers you use the smoother the shading looks (and the longer it takes...).

Good effort on the crystal. I can see the shading you've done on the colours and the edge highlights look pretty neat. The only thing I would change is that I (personally) would have made the lines between the colours not quite so light (but don't change it on my account) as it kind of looks like it's cracked.

and I like the black areas on the turret, it's turning into a nice scheme.
Oh yeah, and the canopy glass is very good too.

Thanks Dr. H!

I wanted that Cracked looked, so I am glad you see it. Crystals are not always formed perfectly and form light weirdly giving a cracked look normally. So mission accomplished. Definitely will continue to push myself.

 cormadepanda wrote:

I wanted that Cracked looked, so I am glad you see it. Crystals are not always formed perfectly and form light weirdly giving a cracked look normally. So mission accomplished. Definitely will continue to push myself.

Coolio then. Keep at it.

Oh and don't talk to me about crystals not forming properly, Its the bane of many chemist's lives...

Just going at it is one of my most trusted teaching tools. I always say to my students that the most valuable thing I can give them is time to work on their pieces (and figure out for themselves what's working and what isn't).

Looking good - I'm liking the blue on the black - makes such a difference and really lifts the model as a whole.

Dr H wrote:
Oh and don't talk to me about crystals not forming properly, Its the bane of many chemist's lives...

I feel your pain really.

finnan wrote:Just going at it is one of my most trusted teaching tools. I always say to my students that the most valuable thing I can give them is time to work on their pieces (and figure out for themselves what's working and what isn't).

Looking good - I'm liking the blue on the black - makes such a difference and really lifts the model as a whole.

Yeah your highlight with a color advice was huge. That blue does add a much needed lift. Now only I could figure out why the model isn't smooth.

Oo, I know what else I was going to say. If the basecoat or undercoat is rough for whatever reason I often lightly smooth it with fine sandpaper. Just enough to remove the lumps and bumps and not the whole paint layer (it can always be touched up anyway, but if it's underneath the final paint who'll notice). Then you can paint over a nice smooth surface (and then find the few bits you missed...).

 Dr H wrote:
Oo, I know what else I was going to say. If the basecoat or undercoat is rough for whatever reason I often lightly smooth it with fine sandpaper. Just enough to remove the lumps and bumps and not the whole paint layer (it can always be touched up anyway, but if it's underneath the final paint who'll notice). Then you can paint over a nice smooth surface (and then find the few bits you missed...).

What grade of sand paper would you suggest?

if you're going to do that, I'd suggest getting hold of some Wet & Dry paper - really fine grade, used for smoothing out plastics like Acrylic. The stuff we get at work is usually black.

The only thing I can think of for the uneven surface is that maybe you're spraying too close...?

 finnan wrote:
if you're going to do that, I'd suggest getting hold of some Wet & Dry paper - really fine grade, used for smoothing out plastics like Acrylic. The stuff we get at work is usually black.

The only thing I can think of for the uneven surface is that maybe you're spraying too close...?

Do you know what the optimal distance is?

 cormadepanda wrote:

 Dr H wrote:
Oo, I know what else I was going to say. If the basecoat or undercoat is rough for whatever reason I often lightly smooth it with fine sandpaper. Just enough to remove the lumps and bumps and not the whole paint layer (it can always be touched up anyway, but if it's underneath the final paint who'll notice). Then you can paint over a nice smooth surface (and then find the few bits you missed...).

What grade of sand paper would you suggest?

I usually "rob" whatever is in my Dad's garage that feels suitable.

I currently have a sheet of 150C (for heavy sanding, this is what I use for my SprueSwords) and a sheet of P240A (for smoothing) which is what I would use and did use on the undercoat of my WS. Before the 240 grit paper, I did have some that was even finer, but the only square I have left of that (less than an inch) is blank on the back. These are all the grey flavoured sandpaper (aluminium oxide I believe) which is the wet/dry stuff Finnan mentioned, I think .

I would suggest, if it's only paint that you're sanding, to use the finest grade you can get your hands on (paint is not very hard and comes off very easily) and be gentle.

HAH! so you started a new thread you bugger! no wonder there's no activity on the orkthread..

and what iv'e seen here so far it looks great everything! the obonescheme is great and the crystal looks amazing!

there's ALOT of versions out there for the crystals but yours is deffinetly one of my favorites.

Dr H wrote:

 cormadepanda wrote:

 Dr H wrote:
Oo, I know what else I was going to say. If the basecoat or undercoat is rough for whatever reason I often lightly smooth it with fine sandpaper. Just enough to remove the lumps and bumps and not the whole paint layer (it can always be touched up anyway, but if it's underneath the final paint who'll notice). Then you can paint over a nice smooth surface (and then find the few bits you missed...).

What grade of sand paper would you suggest?

I usually "rob" whatever is in my Dad's garage that feels suitable.

I currently have a sheet of 150C (for heavy sanding, this is what I use for my SprueSwords) and a sheet of P240A (for smoothing) which is what I would use and did use on the undercoat of my WS. Before the 240 grit paper, I did have some that was even finer, but the only square I have left of that (less than an inch) is blank on the back. These are all the grey flavoured sandpaper (aluminium oxide I believe) which is the wet/dry stuff Finnan mentioned, I think .

I would suggest, if it's only paint that you're sanding, to use the finest grade you can get your hands on (paint is not very hard and comes off very easily) and be gentle.

I will do this in the future!

DiDDe wrote:HAH! so you started a new thread you bugger! no wonder there's no activity on the orkthread..

and what iv'e seen here so far it looks great everything! the obonescheme is great and the crystal looks amazing!

there's ALOT of versions out there for the crystals but yours is deffinetly one of my favorites.

Thanks DiDDe!!!! haha yeah my Orks are having a small break from, they don't need the love at the moment.
I am glad you enjoy the rock and the paint scheme. Nice to have you aboard! stick around a second wraith knight is coming!

Looking good

The orks having a break you say.. and here i was thinking they had done something bad and you sent them to the corner to feel ashamed.

sitck around? stick around? dude, i would stick around even if didn't want me too!

so with that cleared out. when is the other knight coming?

i think i must´ve colored the image wrong... he only was pretty tired from playing... he is quite cabable from definding himself... tho if someone actually would be too brutal he would shy away... but he is very clever... i used to call him my british bulldog for his bulky frame and the red hair on his head...^^...
and he has a smile of an angel... no really...^^...and yeah... i am a proud father

shasolenzabi wrote:Looking good

Thanks shas nice to see you around.

DiDDe wrote:The orks having a break you say.. and here i was thinking they had done something bad and you sent them to the corner to feel ashamed.

sitck around? stick around? dude, i would stick around even if didn't want me too!

so with that cleared out. when is the other knight coming?

Other knight will be here at the latest Saturday.

Viktor von Domm wrote:i think i must´ve colored the image wrong... he only was pretty tired from playing... he is quite cabable from definding himself... tho if someone actually would be too brutal he would shy away... but he is very clever... i used to call him my british bulldog for his bulky frame and the red hair on his head...^^...
and he has a smile of an angel... no really...^^...and yeah... i am a proud father

you made it sound like your kid was being picked on. That rustles my undies like no tomorrow.

Grat paint job mate!

You're doing giant steps on It!

oh you may believe me... if something like that would happen... i would be all over the place like an avenging spirit...i once told a kid off for talking bad about my son... afterwards his teach told me off for telling him off...as he cried afterwards...(the kid... not my son...) but me... i always go by the credo... blood is thicker than water... so family comes first... i try to teach my kids like we are a clan... always back to back... so if someone gets nasty.... we get nasty back^^

Other knight will be here at the latest Saturday.

ah... so now we see the schedule then

 SelvaggioSaky wrote:
Grat paint job mate!

You're doing giant steps on It!

Yeah! a couple touches here and there, and It will be done.


@Vik.. schedule.. haha