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decker_cky wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
The Twilight Kin on foot is okay, but I don't like those Goblins very much. I mean they're competent sculpts but they're not blowing me away or anything. GW's recent Goblins are much better.
The Twilight Kin on horseback is a bit meh, but mostly because of his fashion choices. I actually think the face and so on are pretty good and the proportions aren't bad.

Which recent GW goblins? The shaman and the forest goblins on the arachnarok are very nice, but I'd say that the heroes/mages that were released with the 7th edition sculpts are about on par with the new Mantic goblin characters. Out of the 10 foot character released in that GW batch, there's only two I'd say I clearly like better (3/11 if we count the limited edition goblin hero that came with WD subscription).

The mantic goblins are also much better than the recent forgeworld night goblin command (which is the only GW goblin BSB that's been released outside of Grom's chariot).

Well obviously it's subjective, but I preferred the GW heroes released with 7th and especially the Skulkers or whoever they were called- the little cloak and dagger goblins. Each to his own. The Mantic Goblin Sneak and the Mawbeasts are the only Mantic Goblins I've been really impressed by, which is a shame because I am a sucker for Goblins

 scarletsquig wrote:
All the pics:


Lovely models.

Don't let your friends forget leg day

thos modells look really stupid (and not in a good way)

(and people complain about GW proportions on modells mwahahaha)

 Azazelx wrote:
I don't have a problem with any of these. They're all reasonable. The mounted TK's head isn't really doing the model any favours, but as a freebie, he's acceptable. (Wouldn't spend cash on him, though). On that note, the Goblins aren't free KS sculpts? How much are they asking for them?

Objectively, the paint isn't bad either, given that the images are shown at about 12,000x the sizes of the actual models.

The gobbos are $15 for the three of them - but only available together, for now.
TBH I've had to restrain myself from buying more than one pack - that wizard is phenomenal. I love the ridiculous kev white ish comedy greenskins look it just oozes by the gallon
not a fan of the mounted TK hero and that hero on foot has a very happy wife, it seems (that will only take a pair of clippers to fix, though ) but I think perhaps a decent black-coloured armour look might save him completely. purple glazes over metallic armour? I'm not a fan, TBH.

The minis only look horrible when you post these SUPERSIZE pictures. Those Goblins are ... a third... a quarter of that size in real life?

RoninXiC wrote:
The minis only look horrible when you post these SUPERSIZE pictures. Those Goblins are ... a third... a quarter of that size in real life?

Going by the biggit on my monitor, more like 1/8...

I'd like to weigh in in favor of the goblins. I like the overall aesthetic of the Mantic goblins, and these new gits fit right in.

I think the goblins are fine, but I'm tired of the weird, comical leering goblin style. I wish Mantic had tried a different direction, but that decision was made a while ago.

The evil elves look pretty bad however.

RoninXiC wrote:
The minis only look horrible when you post these SUPERSIZE pictures. Those Goblins are ... a third... a quarter of that size in real life?

I'd be happy to do this as standard if Dakka supported/allowed standard bbcode img tags. It doesn't currently, resizing in the usual format of

[img=500x500]image_url[/img]

doesn't work.

I could save each image, open it up in photoshop, resize, save, upload to the internet, grab url and then post it, but that would get really annoying really quickly.

Hold CTRL key. Mousewheel down. Spin for awhile. Stop when figures are approximately actual size on your screen.

Make note that Holy gak! The "terrible" paintjobs look so much more impressive now.

Those goblins are great I love the wee warboss. I hope future goblins have the same style of helmet

 Azazelx wrote:
Hold CTRL key. Mousewheel down. Spin for awhile. Stop when figures are approximately actual size on your screen.

Make note that Holy gak! The "terrible" paintjobs look so much more impressive now.

See, unfortunately, Mantic doesn't have much of an ad or pr department, or something. If you were to look at any 20mm tall model blown up 8x it's size, it'll look like crap. .Notice when you go to the GW site and click on models, they NEVER get that big.

It's amazing. the KS update the paint jobs look fine; then the super duper high res massive ones posted on the thread are like OMGWHATISGOINGON

Mounted paladins look amazing. Really good job on those horses.

Don't like the actual handweapons on the men-at-arms, but the overall models look a little better in this most recent shot.

Fight wagon is fine. Got what was expected when I heard it would be a dual kit. The chariot build will look better so that's what I'll do.

Yeah, mounted Paladins look like they'd fit right into my Confrontation armies. Fantastic sculpts.

I'll be building Fight Wagons (and lots of them, gonna add a ton to my survey). Looks great, can't wait to paint 'em up

The humans are looking good. Need to build an army. Can't wait to see the angels

 judgedoug wrote:
Yeah, mounted Paladins look like they'd fit right into my Confrontation armies. Fantastic sculpts.

Really?

What pictures are you looking at?

And I'm being serious here - I'd like to see them too!

They are on kickstarter update. Does anyone know when the 2nd shipment will be sent out?

 Alpharius wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Yeah, mounted Paladins look like they'd fit right into my Confrontation armies. Fantastic sculpts.

Really?

What pictures are you looking at?

And I'm being serious here - I'd like to see them too!

That might not actually be the final layout of the sprue.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/kings-of-war/posts/500279

Disappointed with the fight wagon it's just the chariot with the orcs and gores facing the other way. After seeing the great looking models and renders for deadzone a bit let down with this. Hope to see more minis tomorrow

 Gadge wrote:
Disappointed with the fight wagon it's just the chariot with the orcs and gores facing the other way. After seeing the great looking models and renders for deadzone a bit let down with this. Hope to see more minis tomorrow

That's what it's always been It's even described that way in the rulebook. A platform pushed by gores, full of Orc Morax. It looks exactly how I imagined it so I am very very happy with it for my giant Orc army.

Those Paladins ARE very nice - much nicer than the last mounted figure they showed us!

It looks like you could flip the gores to get a chariot out of it if that's any better?

I imagined more morax on it, but yeah, that was the basic concept. I think that it may have come out looking more unique (eg, not a chariot turned backwards) if the boars were one on each side rather than at the back.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
It looks like you could flip the gores to get a chariot out of it if that's any better?

It's a dual kit. You use one kit to make a Chariot OR a Fight Wagon.

Anyone know a good source of alternate heads for those men at arms?

Like the minis, getting loads of them, don't like 3 of the heads, and we're not getting spares on the sprue.

Ideally, something with the same helmet style.

So far, all I know of are the heads made by basicks (formerly micro art).. and those look just as bad. And buying a box of perrys just for the heads would kinda defeat the purpose a little.

Failing any alternatives, I might have a go at sculpting beards on all of them, or pressmoulding some faceplates (since the one with the faceplate down looks pretty badass) , or try to keep the fugly looking ones in the back ranks where they belong.

Liking the mounted paladins, great sense of movement to them.

Fireforge Sergeants or Knights templar? Although again that would defeat the object (and I think these actually do a good job of looking 'fantasy', rather than 'historical', if that makes any sense).

Overall I would give a 6/10 for the foot soldiers, 8 and a half for the mounted Paladins (which I think look fantastic).

The mounted Paladins are really pretty good, very fantasy but not too overblown. The men at arms would be better with a different helmet design, agreed, and apart from that are kinda generic. I would probably be more likely to get some historical plastics instead if I was in hte market for that sort of thing.

Just remembered, perfect solution (spending way too much time on dakka can help sometimes!)

http://eccentricminiatures.com/sprues.html

Eccentric minis, good alternate heads hard plastic, $2 for 16.

And.. they also have some spiked heavy maces and scourges (with hands attached!) that might do nicely for the basilean sisters.

I don't actually mind the faces on the Men-at-Arms however I will for sure be cutting the feathers off the helmets.... I hate feathered helmets.

Might have to check out those arms for sisters, since I'm planning on raiding the sisters arms to make custom plague censer bearers.

God, do you know how impossible it would be to push that 2-fixed wheeled cart without any form of steering? That backwards chariot is a physical impossibility as the beasts of burden can't steer from behind due to the way carts work.

Animals can pull a static-wheeled cart, but to push it, it would need a form of steering in the wheels.