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**MasterSlowPoke**

Mantic usually releases stuff like this around 2-4 EST.

**TheAuldGrump**

judgedoug wrote:
TODAY!! where's my pdf?!

All your rules are belong to us.

The Auld Grump - yeah... I already checked, too....

**TinHat**

Just been on eBay to see what bargains there in KoW and you know Kings of War is growing in popularity because the auction prices are getting much higher than they used to.

**Polonius**

Well, I imagine there might be some WFB armies for sell at a good price though!

**kodos**

V2 Rules are up

http://www.manticgames.com/free-rules.html?utm_source=Mantic+Games+Newsletter&utm_campaign=32097ba58a-Mantic+Games+Newsletter+341&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_20fe4cf5a8-32097ba58a-201359726

**highlord tamburlaine**

Well look what showed up in my inbox...

Cavalry looks nice.

That greater obsidian golem though? The smaller one on the left is about 55mm tall, on a 50mm base. That greater one, if that thing is still in metal, is going to be HEAVY.

I honestly wonder if they'll end up switching materials on it.

**RoninXiC**

Cav is sweeeeet.
Want my PDF now!

**kodos**

RoninXiC wrote:
Cav is sweeeeet.
Want my PDF now!

link is one post above the pictures

**timetowaste85**

They said rules are up. Should be in your inbox. Mine are.

**Thraxas Of Turai**

The cavalry does look good, I just wish they had sculpted some different horses from the Basilean/Elven ones.

And the GOG is going to be metal? That is a potential murder weapon there.

**GiraffeX**

Is that the Vampire Cavalry?

**highlord tamburlaine**

Yeah, that's the vampire cav.

That Golem is nuts if it's metal. That's at least a chariot sized base too, and the thing still hangs over it, and looks double the size of the current one.

Wish I'd ordered one for 15 when I had the chance, especially since I was under the impression we'd get a second chance in the pledge manager, but we know how that turned out.

At least I've got the elemental version coming with my nature army.

**overtyrant**

Just had a quick read through the new rules, I'll have to get a few games in first to get to grips with the new edition but I like the changes thus far especially how you build your army. Don't like the change to Viscous and Elite only a reroll of a one. I'm guessing the magic items will be added to the BRB physical copy. Also I didn't notice a wing terror/dragon option for the vampire lord, is this correct?

**judgedoug**

I thought the GOG was Mars Attacks/Dungeon Saga plastic?

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Woops page 4 makes reference to Terrain on page 59 but the short PDF it's actually on page 11

**Theophony**

My poor Orcs lost their friendly Giants

.....

rage-quits, goes back to GW....finds the price tag on their giant, then finds out they don't exist anymore and neither does the warhammer world

, returns to mantica and house rules the Giants in

. Got to love balanced rules.

**NTRabbit**

Mother of all free swings gifted to them by GW and they still found a way to feth it up, with the complete book not ready, and the free army lists reduced to free sample army lists, please buy the book. A month of talking the game up to whfb refugees down the drain.

**Tyr13**

Almost Mantic, almost.

It wouldve been enough to just include the full lists and a small sample (5-7) of magic items... as it is, youre not really going to get the full experience. I mean, I cant even see a list that includes any monsters... such a shame. :/

**judgedoug**

Error on the Foot Guard entry (incorrect Me and De for Horde)

**infinite_array**

Sigh. It's just like Mantic to be sprinting to the finish line and then stumble at the very end.

**overtyrant**

I'm really scratching my head why they didn't include the complete rules??? Is it just the magic items missing from the rules (as i said I've only skimmed it as I'm at work atm). Have other army got things missing? I think all the ogre stuff is there and just the flying mounts from the Vampire Lord entry.

**judgedoug**

All the magic items weren't in the free V1 pdf either (nor seige rules, campaigns, etc). If you remember the free pdf for V1 was just the 32 page mini-rulebook.

The lists are quick-start lists. The webpage does read:
"Inside these documents you will find all of the core rules. To allow you to try the rules, we've also supplied large extracts from each Force List for you to sample the different units and heroes. More will follow as new armies are released."

**scarletsquig**

I don't know what is up with the half-complete lists, not an RC decision there.

**Thraxas Of Turai**

Wasn't the previous online rules release limited in terms of units etc? Like the mini rulebooks you used to get in mantic products with only a few unit profiles in? I may be remembering wrong as it was probably 3/4 years ago.

Errors do not surprise me, you see a lot of grammatical and spelling errors in newly published books from major publishing houses let alone Mantic who probably had 2 or 3 pairs of eyes scan the thing.

**NTRabbit**

judgedoug wrote:
The lists are quick-start lists. The webpage does read:
"Inside these documents you will find all of the core rules. To allow you to try the rules, we've also supplied large extracts from each Force List for you to sample the different units and heroes. More will follow as new armies are released."

We know what they are, we're talking about what they were supposed to be, what they should have been. Excited and interested people dropping off with comments like "You can take the employee out of GW" on other places I've been talking it up.

**scarletsquig**

There were full army lists posted online previously for the last edition.

**infinite_array**

Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Wasn't the previous online rules release limited in terms of units etc? Like the mini rulebooks you used to get in mantic products with only a few unit profiles in? I may be remembering wrong as it was probably 3/4 years ago.

While the V1 rules online were limited, the army lists were the full versions.

**Thraxas Of Turai**

That makes this decision even more...odd.

Maybe the full rules will come after the physical release? Or a boat has been missed.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

The latest update from Mantic said

Today the free ‘give it a try’ Kings of War second edition rules have gone live on our website. You can download them here.

These core rules and sample Forces Lists are designed to let people try the rules. Please share them around!

There will be a complete rulebook as a PDF sent to you guys in the next couple of weeks. Nobody else will be able to get this full version digitally for free.

Your download will contain all of the rules, including magical artefacts and all eleven forces lists, plus art, photography, background and more.

so backers will get the full book as a pdf soon(ish),

but the general public are going to be limited to the (free) cut down sampler that's just come out

**Nostromodamus**

Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
That makes this decision even more...odd.

Maybe the full rules will come after the physical release? Or a boat has been missed.

Doubt it.

They want you to buy their book.

Another case of Mantic saying one thing and doing another.

**scarletsquig**

Full army lists can still be found online here, keep in mind:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nhZLDFOHUXC2MCA6NwYQWr0HF2mSyvEWIlNH4oCtBeQ/htmlview#gid=1243412207