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2017/04/22 05:28:13
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors- Trident Realms release
Not interested in backing any more Mantic KS campaigns, but if the terrain turns out well, I'll be happy to buy it when it hits retail. In about three years.
Pacific wrote: Is there any mention of when the terrain KS is due ?
2018 would be fine, can get some stuff to arrive alongside HQ25!
I know that I'm asking for trouble, but I'm more optimistic about HQ25 than that!
Having said that, I think that I'm done with Mantic Kickstarters - not had any problems with them, in fact they've been great; I just think that I've got a mountain of stuff already and I have only so many decades left in my life to play and paint it all.
2017/04/22 11:42:18
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors- Trident Realms release
Pacific wrote: Is there any mention of when the terrain KS is due ?
2018 would be fine, can get some stuff to arrive alongside HQ25!
I know that I'm asking for trouble, but I'm more optimistic about HQ25 than that!
Having said that, I think that I'm done with Mantic Kickstarters - not had any problems with them, in fact they've been great; I just think that I've got a mountain of stuff already and I have only so many decades left in my life to play and paint it all.
This is currently where I'm at. And with getting married soon...yeah, don't have time and won't have the disposable income for their Kickstarters. However, I've been nothing but happy with Mantic!!
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2017/04/24 12:38:45
Subject: Re:[Kings of War] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors- Trident Realms release
There is no modern the KS is purely fantasy only it's been pointed out to them that they should remove the sci-fi tank from the artwork as it's causing confusion.
2017/04/24 15:16:15
Subject: Re:[Kings of War] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors- Trident Realms release
DaveC wrote: There is no modern the KS is purely fantasy only it's been pointed out to them that they should remove the sci-fi tank from the artwork as it's causing confusion.
I was under the impression that there would be three different crates available- Fantasy, Sci-Fi and Modern.
2017/04/24 16:05:27
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors- Trident Realms release
DaveC wrote: There is no modern the KS is purely fantasy only it's been pointed out to them that they should remove the sci-fi tank from the artwork as it's causing confusion.
I was under the impression that there would be three different crates available- Fantasy, Sci-Fi and Modern.
3 crates
1 fantasy dungeon
2 fantasy town
3 fantasy battlefield - walls hedges etc.
2017/04/24 16:07:14
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors- Trident Realms release
So, I think we are back in one of those – might be genius, could be madness moments. It’s always a bit tough to tell before! However, stick with me and then you can all pass comment.
I guess one of the reasons I got into gaming with miniatures was because the aesthetic is important to me. One of the best moments of the game is when you get down to eye level and look over the shoulders of your painted army, across the terrain and see the horde arrayed before you. Previously we have indulged a few of my passions for wargaming terrain with Deadzone and Mars Attacks. However, if I’m playing through a dungeon I want to be able to see where everything is, and what I’m fighting around – something we incorporated incredibly well into Dungeon Saga to create a nice mix of the board game and miniatures game experience.
However, I realised that while we have started to build items of dungeon furniture, there isn’t an affordable, durable and easy-to-use (i.e. mostly plastic) system for turning your dungeon (which might be card or big lovely pieces of Dwarvenite) into a fully 3D detailed adventure. Where are the items that make up the wizard’s study, or the torture chamber’s Iron Maidens or even the piles of treasure to hunt down?
All of these have been done in resin – but often by different manufacturers – and while they’re typically very nice, that option can get very expensive very quickly – and not to say fairly delicate when you’re getting them out their box time and time again. But because the TerrainCrate pieces will be made from the same plastic we used for both Dungeon Saga and The Walking Dead, they’ll be near indestructible! What’s more they are pre-coloured and assembled, so you can take them straight out the box (or Crate, more accurately) and start using them in your games.
The current plan is to go for three sets from the onset – all three of these are fantasy themes and every single piece that gets funded will be a new sculpt!
So what are the sets?
The classic Dungeon Set – which has a library, wizard’s study and piles of treasure.
The Battlefields Set – think walls, fences, camp sites and even a cart
The Town Set – including a Blacksmiths, Town Guardroom and Tavern.
Everything is designed to work together – so the food goods will fit in the back of the cart, and also on the table. As far as possible we have designed everything to be cross-compatible and there is significant crossover options between the sets – offering almost infinite game play options. You can pledge for one or three sets – and if you want to go deep on one – do it – the choice is all yours.
While I’d love to say Mantic is big enough to live without Kickstarter, that’s not quite true. However, I have written that we are scaling it back, and only bringing projects that require significant funding or where we need a big print run to help get the game into production. This has to be one of the systems – to get it from nothing to three full schemes right out of the gates, Mantic will need some help. The good news is that means a couple of weeks of good style, old school Mantic madness – where our backers get whole heaps of terrain to build towns to explore, rolling fields to battle over and Dungeons to plunder.
I hope this is going to be a massive and fun ride, and at the end we will have funded a great scheme that’ll give everyone the tabletop 3D terrain they have always dreamed of.
Oh – and why is it called TerrainCrate – well because each themed set will come in its very own… crate! The crate will be able to store all your terrain after you’ve unpacked it – with a bit of spare room in case you make any add-on purchases – and it’ll be exclusive to Kickstarter Backers and game stores that back the campaign.
Thanks for reading and enjoy the TerrainCrate campaign!
Ronnie
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2017/04/25 20:08:32
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors- Trident Realms release
Ronnie posted that there will be a special pledge level that gets you all 3 sets for $60 each. This leads me to believe that this is the sweet spot and smaller pledges will be more expensive per set.
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2017/04/25 21:11:36
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors- Trident Realms release
lord_blackfang wrote: Ronnie posted that there will be a special pledge level that gets you all 3 sets for $60 each. This leads me to believe that this is the sweet spot and smaller pledges will be more expensive per set.
1 crate is confirmed at $60 3 crates at $60 each is $180 no saving there it would make more sense to do all 3 for $150 get 1 for half price.
2017/04/25 21:59:27
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors- Trident Realms release
It's Mantic. That's the deal they'll unveil halfway through the KS when pledge totals aren't exactly coming along as planned... again... and after lots of folks have already committed mentally to not pledge.
Was like that on DZ2, was like that on WP, and will be like that here
2017/04/25 22:06:36
Subject: [Kings of War] Mantic Games - Fantasy News & Rumors- Trident Realms release
Azazelx wrote: Just beware the trap of their shipping charges. You don't want the Star Saga experience...
Did the yanks get the shaft as well? CMON's charging $24 for shipping for its KS now. No idea when I'll kick the habit.
Anyway, on the Mantic FB page:
Ciaran Morris So I'm that guy... did a slow-mo and counted 66 pieces in total, of about 36 different types, with a couple of variants of repeated pieces (bookcases and mine tracks at first pass).
Here's the list that I could make out:
ITEM TYPE QUANTITY
Armour pile 1
Astronomer's Orrery 1
Barrel Set 2
Bookcase - Corner 1
Bookcase - Narrow 1
Bookcase - Wide 2
Brick Rubble - Large 2
Brick Rubble - Small 2
Candelabra - Tall 2
Chests & Scrolls pile 2
Giant Rat/Tabletop - Rat 2
Hasty Door Barricade 2
Hasty Table Barricade 2
Mage's Dresser - Wide 1
Mine Cart 2
Mine Explosives Barrel 2
Mine Pickaxe 2
Mine Track - Curve 2
Mine Track - Straight 6
Mine Track Bumper 2
Scribe's Dresser - Wide 1
Stone Pillar 2
Stones/Rocks pile - Small 2
Stones/Rocks/Ore pile - Large 2
Tabletop - Books pile 1
Tabletop - Candles 1
Tabletop - Gold Sack 2
Tabletop - Map & Scrolls 1
Tabletop - Platter & Chalice 2
Tabletop - Potions & Bottles 1
Tabletop - Skull 2
Treasure Hoard - Large 2
Treasure Hoard - Medium 2
Treasure Hoard - Small 2
Wooden Crate 2
Wooden Crates Set 2
So that's less than $1 a piece - I'll have that thanks very much!
And that's before stretch goals roll in. I know there are a few teases not included in that video, such as the Crystals outcrop, Training Dummy, Sword in the Stone, Tall pile of tabletop books, Mage's Desk, Mage's Owl + Stand and the Bookcase ladder, some of which may be in different sets but it shows there is alot of stuff on the way regardless!
Did the yanks get the shaft as well? CMON's charging $24 for shipping for its KS now. No idea when I'll kick the habit.
I believe the bigger issues were related to add-ons - specifically their shipping being radically more than it had any right to be based on even courier options. Squig posted some specific info on it.
Gotcha. Add-ons are always more expensive than the base pledge, so I pass on them (glad I did for Myth). And, at $180 for all three sets, it's going to be hard enough on the cash flow with Reaper and Dwarven Forge!