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**jtrowell**

Yes there will be a pledge manager as usual, it has been mentionned that it would be opened after the holidays so that people have some time to recover from them

**.Mikes.**

Cool, thank you.

**Zywus**

Stretchgoal reached. Hellequins added to the free Abyssal starter warband.

Update #12: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/kings-of-war-vanguard-the-fantasy-skirmish-wargame/posts/2039602

Next up. More Basileans

and some runestones after that.

**ulgurstasta**

Those Hellequins have potential, will be interesting to see how the renders shape up.

**Barzam**

That Abyssal army is mighty tempting. Almost enough to make me pledge just for them. I really want to see renders for them.

**pancakeonions**

Upped my 2-p starter set pledge $60 to get all the resins for the three warbands I'll be getting. Sigh!

At least it's starting to look really cool now.

**Zywus**

Renders shown of Basileans with crossbows:

Update #13: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/kings-of-war-vanguard-the-fantasy-skirmish-wargame/posts/2040017

The Basilean Men at Arms HIPS kit confirmed to contain bits for all three weapon options Sword/Spear and shield, and Crossbows.
.

**Galas**

Those look actually nice. If the sprue and plastic end looking like the Render and they have a similar price, I can see myself buying a gak-ton of those to do a Stromgarde-Warcraft army

**Zywus**

Galas wrote:
Those look actually nice. If the sprue and plastic end looking like the Render and they have a similar price, I can see myself buying a gak-ton of those to do a Stromgarde-Warcraft army

I know, right!

These could be a big hit if the HIPS measure up to the renders.

They should also be a good fit for whatever regular humans are called in AoS. They'd fit in pretty well as human militia alongside the sigmarine elite units I believe.

**ulgurstasta**

Everyone's Getting Stoned! New Nightstalker Spectres Unveiled!

Ho! Vanguardians,

Yesterday was another fantastic day, with almost 100 brand new Vanguardians backing the Kickstarter. Welcome aboard and thanks for the support - you've joined at a great time and next week promises to be very special.

Thanks to all these new backers, overnight we've smashed through another stretch goal and you've now unlocked three Stone Runes, which will be added to the Join the Vanguard Pledge and the Two-Player Set. These towering runes will form the basis of a Vanguard scenario in the rulebook.

We're also approaching the next stretch goal - the terrifying Abyssal Despoiler… an awful mix of crab and demon! This resin monster will be added to the Abyssal Resin pack, which is available to add to your pledges for $20. Remember, we'll also be creating rules to use the new Despoiler in Kings of War too.

After the Despoiler, we've got the fantastic stretch goal of five extra Men at Arms in the Basilean Warband and Two-Player Starter Set. What's more, you'll also get new weapon options on the sprue so you can create spearmen, swordsmen and crossbowmen.

Of course, it seems a little unfair that the Nightstalkers are potentially about to be outnumbered by the Basileans, so at $130,000 we'll be giving you FIVE extra hard plastic Nightstalkers. Plus - and here's the exciting news - the hard plastic Nightstalkers sprue will now create the shuffling Scarecrows or the ghostly Spectres, so you can choose a mix of the two when putting them together.

And that's not all, thanks to some technical wizardry we're also pleased to announce the Nightstalkers hard plastic sprue can be combined with our existing zombie hard plastic sprue, just in case you want to swap out the legs or torsos.

Remember, you can add a regiment of the Scarecrows/Spectres to your pledge for $20. Simply click 'manage my pledge' and increase the total by the amount required. Once we send the pledge manager round, you can use any extra credit on the optional extras you want.

Have you got the stomach for the Spectres?

Well now we know why the scarecrows have tentacle feet

**lord_blackfang**

Yeah that is a terrible choice for a dual kit.

**Zywus**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Yeah that is a terrible choice for a dual kit.

I have a hard time seeing how it could be done without basically having double the bits on the sprue?
They don't look very much alike.

**DaveC**

Concept art for the dual kit - bit of a strange mix and does explain the scarecrows tentacles

**Zywus**

So, they'll share legs, but I get the impression there will be separate torsi for making either scarecrows or spectres?

they'll share the legs. Sorry, should have put the concept art in the update

the fact this kit combines with the zombies means you could easily create the Doppelgangers too actually - make them look half Spectre/half zombie

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Well that's my interest in the scarecrows crushed

**jtrowell**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Well that's my interest in the scarecrows crushed

Why ? The screcrow are still based on the very same picture that we already know, we simply now know that the kit will have alternative arms and head to make spectre too.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

I was hoping they were going to take on board the requests to make the flames/tentacles on the legs optional as many had suggested/requested and which mantic appeared to be receptive to

(although to be fair they didn't actually agree to do it)

with the announcement of the dual kit it's clear why they are there, and any real chance of getting normal legs with add on tentales/flames is gone

**Psychopomp**

Yeah, it's not an animated scarecrow kit; it's a two types of spectre kit, one of which partially dresses up as a scarecrow.

Meh.

**kodos**

I like it

the idea of animated Scarecrows was always something I did not liked about the Nightstalker list
but ScareCrow daemons or spectres is something that fits

**Gallahad**

Yeah, non optional flames is a deal breaker for me. The other heads just look goofy to me as well.

**ListenToMeWarriors**

Not sure how the fleshy and somewhat squat Mantic Zombie legs will work when combined with the new kit to make effective looking Scarecrows. When combined with the ethereal flamey bits it seems like the worst of both worlds to me. I guess that time will tell but in the tradition of Dakka it seems like an extremely Mantic...Almost type solution.

**domobomb**

Zywus wrote:
Renders shown of Basileans with crossbows:

Update #13: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/kings-of-war-vanguard-the-fantasy-skirmish-wargame/posts/2040017

The Basilean Men at Arms HIPS kit confirmed to contain bits for all three weapon options Sword/Spear and shield, and Crossbows.
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nvm I see they added minis.

**DaveC**

The M@A sprue and the Scarecrows were added at $75,000 (funding goal) to get things moving there's been no actual stretch goal to fund them. Whilst the crossbows and spectre parts were always planned to be on the sprue and it is a "fake" stretch goal the extra $5,000 will go some way towards covering the cost of the HIPs tool which haven't actually been funded yet. For what Mantic have to produce I don't think $120,000 is even break even yet. They've (finally) front loaded some stuff that they'll need to cover the costs of in the last few days.

Anyone know what a HIPS tool costs these days? the KS has so far committed to producing 3 of them.

EDIT: you edited your post before I hit submit

**TheAuldGrump**

DaveC wrote:
The M@A sprue and the Scarecrows were added at $75,000 (funding goal) to get things moving there's been no actual stretch goal to fund them. Whilst the crossbows and spectre parts were always planned to be on the sprue and it is a "fake" stretch goal the extra $5,000 will go some way towards covering the cost of the HIPs tool which haven't actually been funded yet. For what Mantic have to produce I don't think $120,000 is even break even yet. They've (finally) front loaded some stuff that they'll need to cover the costs of in the last few days.

Anyone know what a HIPS tool costs these days? the KS has so far committed to producing 3 of them.

EDIT: you edited your post before I hit submit

That is assuming that they did not plan out two different versions of the frames - with and without the added pieces.

Until the tool is made, it is possible to have plans for many different possible configurations - but the more complex the tool, the more expensive it will be to produce it.

That said - they look a lot better as scarecrows, to me at least, so I will likely use the RAFM Dream Warriors instead.

The additions to the M@A on the other hand... make that set a lot more useful for me.

The Auld Grump

**Zywus**

Despoiler is in the bag.

After basilean crossbowmen and spectres the stretchgoal afterwards are a objective marker.

Not terribly exiting I feel.

Although the concept art for some kind of ice mage (possibly for the Northern alliance) is interesting:

**lord_blackfang**

That dead spy sculpt makes no sense, it's literally a horse and rider in a gallop lying on their side. Doesn't look like either of them actually died, they were encased in carbonite mid-gallop.

**Zywus**

It might be the angle. The horses pose looks reasonably natural to a fallen one to me.

The rider should probably have had his left arm splayed out to the other side. I think they're going for a 'clutching his wound' pose, but it's not spot on.

**DaveC**

I hadn't looked closely at it but you're right, I don't see how the rider could end up in that position (its the leg still over the horse that's the problem) it would have been better to have him beside the horse - which might take up to much space in the tool or slumped over the horse which would have a smaller footprint. Actually even just removing the leg and having the horse lying on the rider would look better.

**Theophony**

It’s because he’s a SPY. He is just pretending to be dead and waiting for the soldiers to pass him up so he and the horse can stand back up and gallop away

**Zywus**

Further stretchgoal revealed.

Existing HIPS sprue of succubi

Concept art for another ice-themed ~~elf~~ naiad