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@SL: I want to redo them now! I get what you're saying, though. I'm not after a Golden Demon; I just want to paint neatly, and I can't do that when I rush. But you're right: time and place for everything.

@Ramos: Thanks, mate. I'm actually pretty happy with my painting now, but I know it will get better. (It's better now than it was a couple weeks ago, I think.) It took me a while to figure out that re-painting is ok. I think it was when Gits re-painted his Razorback that it hit me, "Oh, I get it now...." Of course, it was too late at that point.

Can't wait to see your army. I think they're going look great on the table together. We'll have to crush some Lamenter rebel scum!

@Ctc: Hey that would be great! I'd love to see your work in person, and Adepticon is an experience. So, yeah, start planning now!

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Been working on a few details. Added some detail the bike bases so they better match the rest of the army:



Decorated bases for my Librarian and Apothecary:



Here's what they look like with the bikes on:





The base really adds a lot, I think.

And just for Ctc, some work on the banner



Not quite sure about the Turquoise. It's a bit more... turquoise-y in person. I think it'll be ok. I'm pretty happy with the lava at the bottom. Turned out better than I thought it would. Does it need a wash to blend the colors? I also tried to wet blend some colors on the flames, but it's too small a space for me to do that at the moment. I think I'll go with red flames, red feathers, yellow sun and rays. Thoughts?

And finally, made some custom decals:



Stupid paper went through the printer cock-eyed, but I thought, "well, they're still useable." Nope, the colors are too bright. Need to darken the yellow and red in the original image. Oh well.

As always, C&C welcome.

Thanks for reading.

YB

 Yellowbeard wrote:
@SL: I want to redo them now! I get what you're saying, though. I'm not after a Golden Demon; I just want to paint neatly, and I can't do that when I rush. But you're right: time and place for everything.

yep.. no mater what you want they will be your best work (at the time). Quit Lamenting on stuff you cannot do and do the best at the time.

 Yellowbeard wrote:
Can't wait to see your army. I think they're going look great on the table together. We'll have to crush some Lamenter rebel scum! .

Didn't you see the press release.. were not rebels, were patriots of the Emperor...

 Yellowbeard wrote:
Been working on a few details. Added some detail the bike bases so they better match the rest of the army:

Not following what looks different here...

 Yellowbeard wrote:
Decorated bases for my Librarian and Apothecary:

Is that a Lamenters body parts? Great something Else I have to Lament!

 Yellowbeard wrote:
Not quite sure about the Turquoise. It's a bit more... turquoise-y in person. I think it'll be ok. I'm pretty happy with the lava at the bottom. Turned out better than I thought it would. Does it need a wash to blend the colors? I also tried to wet blend some colors on the flames, but it's too small a space for me to do that at the moment. I think I'll go with red flames, red feathers, yellow sun and rays. Thoughts?

Looks good!

 Yellowbeard wrote:
And finally, made some custom decals:

Stupid paper went through the printer cock-eyed, but I thought, "well, they're still useable." Nope, the colors are too bright. Need to darken the yellow and red in the original image. Oh well.

I'm thinking you only need to do the Red Fire Hawk and not the yellow. use the color on the pad for that.

Turquoise seems to be one of those colors that just doesnt photograph quite right. Like all of my marines shift from blue to slightly green blue in pictures.

As to decals:
Test sheets are your friend! Run a few regular sheets through before you use the decal paper. That way you can double check color!

Im assuming its white paper? A little border of yellow is good, in that case. You wont want to cut the decal too close to the hawk, so without the yellow you'd be left with a band of white on the edges.
Regardless of white background or yellow, one of the best bets on getting the decal to blend with the pads is to touch it up with paint over the edges of the decal. Its hard to do on airbrushed surfaces, though.

Banner looks great, especially the lava! I wouldn't worry about a wash. Looks good as is.

Praise the Emperor!

Maybe wash them before you apply them? Also great work on the banner, i am proud!!!!

Thanks, guys.

Solar_lion wrote:Not following what looks different here...

I added ballast and paint to the bases of the bike. It's not so much what's different as what's the same: they fit better with the other troops in the army. Which is why I included the two Tac marines. Not a big change, but I had like 10 of them to do....

Solar_lion wrote:Is that a Lamenters body parts? Great something Else I have to Lament!

Lamenter, Tranquility Sniper, I'm not picky.... Sounds like you're going to need those tissues, though.

@Ramos: Thanks. yeah, I did run test sheets, but for some reason, I didn't think to put one of the test sheets next to the model. I was planning on cutting out the square, so I wouldn't have to be too detailed, and painting over the edge to blend, but now that you mention it, maybed I can still use what I printed, cut a little closer, and use paint to cover the lighter yellow....

@Ctc: Thanks. That's not a bad idea. I may try that.

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Some more work on the banner. base colors are done:



I think it looks pretty good. Maybe a little too bright. My wife suggested giving it a light wash of Sepia to antique it a bit. What do you think? Also, what do you think of the ochre border? Not sure what to paint that bottom triangle, either....

Here's what it looks like on the OM:

I think the latest batch of work looks very nice YB. Keep it up. Don't get discouraged, just keep plowing ahead. If you can get those fire hawk symbols on their shoulder pads and vehicles, it'll make a HUGE difference in your army. Rather than just a bunch of yellow guys who could be anything really... they become a real chapter.

Keep on it, you'll get there!

You appear to have forgot one of the sun beams. I like the way everything is looking though.

 whalemusic360 wrote:
You appear to have forgot one of the sun beams. I like the way everything is looking though.

Yep, bottom left. Unless you meant to leave that off on purpose? Perhaps its a company thing?

Otherwise, everything looks great. Keep it up.

@Solar - Those are clearly not Lamenter bits because there are no checkers. No checkers, not a Lamenter. That biker is clearly driving over body parts from other Fire Hawks.

That looks cracking YB - really good to see you got your game on!

We just beat the checkers right off of him.

Well, every time I Iook at this guy, I see something else I want to do to him, but for the most part, he's "done", I think....











21 pages in, and I finally painted a model! I'm not sure what to make of that....

C&C welcome.

Thanks for reading!

YB

I think he'll do just fine. I suppose I should do a banner some day.

I am so proud, that banner looks baller awesome!

Tried putting some decals on my Tac marines this morning:



Some of them came out ok (as you can see on the back 2 marines), others not so great.

I used this How to Apply Waterslide Decals Tutorial (http://www.scalemodelguide.com/painting-weathering/decals/apply-waterslide-decals/) as a guide.

I realized after I took this picture that I wasn't blotting the decal before applying it, so there may have been an excess of water on the decal. That may have caused some of the problems. Also, after I took this picture, I went back and brushed over the decals with a clean brush. That seemed to remove some of the excess liquid and smooth out the decals some. Anyway, any advice would be appreciated.

The colors on the decals are a little light. Guess I'll have to live with that for now.

Next steps: paint the edges of the decals to try to blend them in a bit and then a bit of 'Ardcoat to seal them.

The ones in the back look great!

Blotting will definitely help ya. Either a slightly moist paintbrush or paper towel will do the trick. It smooths on the decal and gets rid of all the bubbles.
I usually blot after putting decals on, as having a little water lets you move the decal to where you want it.

Personally I dont like soaking my decals for 20-30 secs like that tutorial says... I always find that the glue dissolves and I dont get good adhesion.
I dip my decals, then put them on a paper towel and wait a little bit (20-30 seconds, probably) until I can move them from the backing paper. I then use a brush to slide them off and onto the model, and combination brush/blot them with a brush and paper towel.


Looking good! Keep it up!

Did you wash them to darken them?

I think blotting will help as suggested.

- a light dry brush of the shoulder pad color around the edges should help confuse the color transition well enough.
- then use the brushable 'Aard Coat to cover the decal including going over the edges.
- when that's dry, spray it with Dull Coat.

Thanks, Guys!

Round 2: Assault Squad Decals Done!



Ramos, your tip about dipping the decal rather than soaking it was a great help. The decals didn't get nearly as wet, and I think, they went on much more smoothly as a result. Also cured quickly, too. Thanks, mate!

Also, painted the decal edges on the Tac Marines:



Everybody Conga!

Not bad, actually. A couple of the decals had some air bubbles, but most of them are decent. I'm wondering if I should (as Ctc suggested) give them a light wash of Sepia. That would darken the colors a bit and help blend them in to the rest of the pad, maybe. If so, should I do that before or after I hit them with 'Ardcoat?

Thanks!

YB

Are you using Microsol or Microset? I recommend both. In my limited water slide time, it has really helped. Also, with air bubbles, you can break the transfer and get the under color which just makes it look more warn and weathered.

Those look much better. Like the conga line.

Good gob.. definitely better and now identifiable.

Looking good, sephia may blend a little but all in all looks good

They are looking great YB, one small observation for your next marine army is that the chapter symbols go on the left shoulder pad unless they have studs or terminator honours etc or are terminators in which case its always the right shoulder for the chapter symbol.

I do think they are great just wanted to point it out sorry.

Well not on the FH ! starting a new tradition!!

Not on early marines, chapter badges were on the opposite shoulder.

hey look nice, Yellow, you've done a good job with the decals!

Yeah he did fine with Placement, it was the much later traditions of seals i am pretty sure?

Thats good then , I didnt know they were different pre heresy.

Not pre heresy... Early 40k. The switch to the other shoulder came with the advent of Mk 7 armor. Problem is that GW rewrote history to place Mk 7 armor back before the Badab War, which it shouldn't be.

Without retcons we'd still have all kinds of silliness, both 40k and otherwise.