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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 05:32:22
Subject: Re:Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Night troll and more page 27)
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
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Be sure to use logic! Avoid fallacies whenever possible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 06:38:18
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Night troll and more page 27)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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From the thread on Muse On Minis;
My summary of all the spoilers so far. Copy-pasted from several sources on PP's and F&F's boards (huge thanks to Hatred on F&F!).
Trollbloods
Fennblade Kithkar (Solo)
Has two Reach swords with the P+S +1 of a Fennblade sword. Has Righteous Vengeance, Hard, Commander and Unyielding. Has the same MAT, cost and Health as a Skinner. Has Fennblade ARM +1.
Night Troll
Light warbeast that costs the same as a Swamp and has the same stats. Has Stealth, Paralysis (see Krea) on his melee attacks, an animus that forces warrior models to move directly towards him (range self), Eyeless Sight and Man Eater.
Warders (apparently they still have some abilities which have not been spoiled yet)
Have Champ stats with +1 ARM and -1 SPD. Have Battle Driven and Reach. Costs the same as a unit of Fennblades.
Mountain King
Eh, everyone knows by now.
Hunters Grim
--Has Mirage, Mage Sight and Pursuit as spells. One of his pyg buddies has a snare gun and the other has a Blunderbuss (see winter guard). They each grant an ability: Circular Vision and Reform. Both pygs have RAT 6. Grim's feat grants friendly faction models Mark Target (see Cygnar Rangers) and Snipe.
--The other ability that one of the Pygs is Trapper.
Place a 5" AoE touching this models base. Living and Undead models entering or ending their movement suffer a POW 10. If the model is damaged it is Knocked Down. Flying and Incorp models do not suffer from Trapper.
--They have 360 LOS and reform.
--Head hunter, gives warbeasts in Grims battlegroup a free charge if the enemy model is hit.
--Mortality is Grims last spell.
Cost 2 RNG 10, Upkeep. -2 Def/-2 ARM can not be healed.
--He is 16/15 still and RAT 8 with +4 WB points.
Sorcerer WA
A 1 point model which can be attached to any Trollblood unit. Has Disbinding, Winter storm and Ice bolt
Circle Orboros
Known entries: Warpborn Alpha, Woldwrath
Unseen entries:
Morvhana the Dawnshadow
--Stats: Morvhana the Autumnblade, +2 SPD, +2 ARM, +2 boxes
--Feat: See Bell of Lost Souls; basically, can spend life to resurrect destroyed models
--Sword has Life Trader
--Mount has Ram (hurr), no info on mount POW
--Heals whenever a friendly faction model in CTRL dies (the amount you think)
--Spells: Purification, Sunder Spirit, Carnivore, Death knell, Fog of war
--can cut for d3 damage to allow friend faction models to reroll attacks or damage rolls
Tharn Blood Pack
--SPD 6 MAT 7 RAT 6
--RNG 12 POW 13 bows
--POW 11 melee
--Assault and battery
--Heart eater
--Tree Walker
they are 7/10 so kinda spendy
New Satyr
9 points
Has 3 POW 16s, and Smash and Grab
Animus is Bulldoze (self)
Also has Hard Head and Aggressive
New Griffon Warbeast
--Animus: Amuck (so who was it who said we'd never get RNG: 6 animi again?)
--Flight
--Can apparently trample over everything, period. Adds pow to tramples for a total of P+S 12.
--Points cost: 5
--The Griffon actually takes no free strikes at all, even from other models while trampling.
Skorne
Makeda3
Feat: Dance of Death - When a model in Makeda’s battlegroup destroys one or more enemy models in her control area with an attack, either Makeda can gain 1 fury point or 1 fury point can be removed from a model in her battlegroup in her control area. Dance of Death lasts for one turn.
--Spells: Eliminator, Vortex of Destruction, Ground Zero, Sunhammer
--P+S 15 sword with Blood boon and reach.
--emakeda is still 15/17 and has battle driven with her group. they also shield guard for her
Reptile hounds
P+S 8, 13/13 with 13 hp, slaughterhouse animus, flank [reptile hounds] 2pts a piece.
Despoiler (Rhinodon character warbeast):
--Eyeless sight
--Arcane Supression animus
--lets his controlling warlock upkeep a spell for free
--creates Void Spirits out of enemy warrior models
--Affinity Mordikaar: gains dark shroud in Mordikaar's control area.
Might also cost 10, have MAT 6 and critical brutal damage on the tail.
Should mention that he can only create the Void Spirit once per turn, and that he is still a Rhinodon so his base P+S is pretty tame.
Legion of Everblight
3Lylyth (Previously Spoiled)
Afflictor (Released, Previously Spoiled)
Archangel (Sadly, Previously Spoiled)
Warchief Ua (Released, Previously spoiled)
Nephilim Bloodseer
Can cast another warbeasts animus ala Cyclopss shaman (Primal magic is the name of the rule)
animus is Witch blight (new)
Has Telemetry (see Mark Target. but for Magic) against enemy models within 5" of this model. Cost 5pts, 12/19
Legion Lesser Warlock
Known Abilities:
Costs: 3
Fury: 4
Spells: Energizer, Blood rain
Field Marshall: Aggressive
Hits alot harder with lesser beasts In melee with its target.
Can only take lesser warbeasts.
Minions
Midas
Midas is FURY 6 MAT 6 14/16 if I remember correctly.
Feat is wordy: Pet Cemetery
Spend X Fury and bring back any number of warbeasts that is in Midas battlegroup. Return all warbeasts with 1 point in each aspect healed. All returned warbeasts gain Undead, Heal all warbeasts in his control area for the amount of Fury spent during the feat. (This means both the ones brought back and the ones still in play).
Then there is some stipulations about which can and can not activate etc.
Oh they also have to be placed within 3" of Midas when they come back.
Spell List: Bad Blood, Hex Blast, Battle lust and Calamity.
Curse[Bone Grinders]: See Bane Lord Tartarus Curse
Butchery, when a living warbeast dies within his ctrl area he gains a Bone token, any time during his activation remove up to 3 bone tokens and replace them with Fury. ( no limit on how many bone tokens he can have.)
Has Blood Boon on his weapon (P+S 13) If he kills an enemy Warbeast he can casts its animus or a cost 3 spell for free.
Dismember: rolls an extra damage dice with melee attacks against warbeasts.
Rask and Razor boars have been spoiled already, Midas are above, the Gobber mechanik is a solo that has Repair 8 and a RNG 8 POW 10 gun Rat 4. Costs 1 point and will apparently work for all the Hordes factions plus Cygnar and Khador.
Bog trog shamblers are as follows:
Take Alexia and the risen make them worse since they are hordes and then you have the Shambler and Trogs.
The Bokor has Death magic just like Alexia. He poops out Undead togs that are 10/13 SPD 5 MAt 5 POW 8. He can not make them any better than that.
I cant remember what his other spell/ability does but it's RNG 3. His CMD is 8.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 13:49:31
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Wow, I LOVE the trollbloods stuff listed! 2 point fighty solo that doesn't suck like the skinner  (hopefully), a 1 point solo, another 4 point light beast... only thing I could ask for more is an 8 point heavy.
And the hunters grim sound fantastic
Also, this about the gobber:
The Gobber mechanik is a solo that has Repair 8 and a RNG 8 POW 10 gun Rat 4. Costs 1 point and will apparently work for all the Hordes factions plus Cygnar and Khador.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 14:25:34
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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The 1pt Troll thing isn't a solo, it's a Weapon Attachment that goes on most any unit, like the Soulless for Retribution.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 14:56:30
Subject: Re:Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Widowmaker
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The Gobber mechanik is a solo that has Repair 8 and a RNG 8 POW 10 gun Rat 4. Costs 1 point and will apparently work for all the Hordes factions plus Cygnar and Khador.
What do Hordes factions need with Repair? Will it heal their battle engines and maybe the Circle construct warbeasts? I think he'll get much more play in Highborn and Four Star lists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 14:58:15
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Apparently BE say they can only be healed by friendly faction, or somesuch, so folks are saying he won't be able to repair BE...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 15:07:23
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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[MOD]
Madrak Ironhide
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Maybe he'll count as faction?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/08 21:30:55
Subject: Re:Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Soul Token
West Yorkshire, England
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I'd have got eMorvahna just for the model, but those stats look amazing.
Purification is the big one. Iron Flesh and ARM-buffed colossals become a lot more manageable, and you have to appreciate the irony of one of the most upkeep-dependent warlocks getting the spell she hated the most. Fog of War has a lot of potential. With Warpwolf Stalkers, she can pretend to be eKaya, or Druids can walk around with permanent camouflage active. Death Knell could have some cheeky interactions with her feat--revive a pile of Wolves of Orboros around the enemy warcaster, then drop Death Knell on them for massive damage. And Carnivore doesn't synergise that well with a lot of Circle abilities, but having remove from play on tap is very useful against certain lists. Wolves of Orboros and Skinwalkers will probably get some value for money out of the MAT boost.
Depending on the wording of cavalry mount attacks, she could have some good synergy with Ghetorix--drop Ornery on herself, then attack with the mount to knock down whatever just charged her.
New Satyr looks to have potential too--I can see Grayle, Kromac and eBaldur all liking this animus for their assassination runs.
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"The 75mm gun is firing. The 37mm gun is firing, but is traversed round the wrong way. The Browning is jammed. I am saying "Driver, advance." and the driver, who can't hear me, is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see twelve enemy tanks fifty yards away, someone hands me a cheese sandwich." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/09 00:37:29
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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I was just looking for an excuse to run Mordikaar again
Sad to hear the shamblers are junk, may kibosh my Rask swarm plans, though I suppose a min squad could at least absorb hits for him ...
- Salvage
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/09 06:28:52
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I'm too lazy to try and copy/paste all this while on my phone, but Focus and Fury is putting up page scans of the new units over on their forums if you're interested. Warning, they like to swear and insult people and its not really moderated anymore.
http://www.focusandfury.com/forum/index.php?topic=4926.315
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/09 06:44:27
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Madrak Ironhide
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RiTides wrote:Apparently BE say they can only be healed by friendly faction, or somesuch, so folks are saying he won't be able to repair BE...
The repair ability itself is in faction.
Maybe the little guy has his own rule.
Bodge: Remove d3 damage from friendly construct or something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/09 10:30:21
Subject: Re:Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
RAGE
Be sure to use logic! Avoid fallacies whenever possible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/09 11:47:56
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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malfred wrote: RiTides wrote:Apparently BE say they can only be healed by friendly faction, or somesuch, so folks are saying he won't be able to repair BE...
The repair ability itself is in faction.
Maybe the little guy has his own rule.
Bodge: Remove d3 damage from friendly construct or something.
I don't know what rule he's got, but I've heard he can heal out of faction stuff. Would be a complete waste if he couldn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/09 14:13:41
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Wow, winter storm on the troll sorcerer could be amazing in the right circumstances (takes away eyeless sight, pathfinder, and flight for things starting activation within it's command range).
Epic Grim looks challenging to use, though. How does one cast a -2 Def spell on a high Def deathstar? You still have to roll to hit, right?  He seems to be lacking in the buff/debuff department.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Was referring to the info at this link. Also confirms the gobber can repair battle engines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/14 01:19:01
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Got my book
Does anyone know what "Trollkin Highwaymen" are? They're listed under the units allowable in eGrim's tier list... but I've never heard of them before, and I don't see them anywhere else in the book so far... certainly not a unit in the book.
Also, do gargantuans count as warbeasts (for the purposes of tiers, etc)?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/14 01:29:36
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Madrak Ironhide
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RiTides wrote:Got my book
Does anyone know what "Trollkin Highwaymen" are? They're listed under the units allowable in eGrim's tier list... but I've never heard of them before, and I don't see them anywhere else in the book so far... certainly not a unit in the book.
Also, do gargantuans count as warbeasts (for the purposes of tiers, etc)?
Future proofing the theme forces
Thyra's theme force has "Flamebringers" for example.
Kraye allows light cav.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/14 01:38:24
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Crafty Bray Shaman
NOVA
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Gargantuans are beasts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/14 02:10:00
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Dankhold Troggoth
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But just generic beasts, right, not "heavy" "light" or (in my case) Dire Trolls, right?
Cheers  trying to devour the book now...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/14 08:34:58
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Soul Token
West Yorkshire, England
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RiTides wrote:Was referring to the info at this link. Also confirms the gobber can repair battle engines.
Including the Throne of Everblight.
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"The 75mm gun is firing. The 37mm gun is firing, but is traversed round the wrong way. The Browning is jammed. I am saying "Driver, advance." and the driver, who can't hear me, is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see twelve enemy tanks fifty yards away, someone hands me a cheese sandwich." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/14 12:27:11
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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RiTides wrote:But just generic beasts, right, not "heavy" "light" or (in my case) Dire Trolls, right?
Cheers  trying to devour the book now...
Haven't seen the book, but assuming it follows colassals it is a different classification; Light, heavy, gargantuan. So anything that specifies only heavy beasts, doesn't affect gargantuans..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/14 20:55:15
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I haven't either, so not sure how large it is. Good luck getting it down your throat, Ri!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 12:12:53
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Haha, thanks  . And thanks tdwg83 (T-dawg 1983?), I think you're right!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 14:24:18
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 14:39:57
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Don't know much about the game yet, but Blade Rush and Amuck seems like a pretty schweet combo.
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“It was in lands of the Chi-An where she finally ran him to ground. There she kissed him deeply as he lay dying, and so stole from him his last, agonized breath.
On a delicate chain at her throat, she keeps it with her to this day.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 14:48:12
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Dakka Veteran
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A Mountain King is not a Dire Troll as it is not in its type. It is a generic warbeast, not a character. If something is limited to Dire Trolls you cannot take a Mountain King, but if it just states warbeast, it is alright.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/15 14:52:16
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Huge spoilers summary edited into OP and on page 28!)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Wow so the Shamblers are basically Alexia Light for Hordes? That's interesting. I wonder if the lack of her other tricks will make their slightly higher price tag less appealing. Stationary is cool, but I don't know that it is THAT cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/03 19:12:35
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Lylyth on 120mm base page 28!)
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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http://privateerpress.com/hordes/gallery/legion-of-everblight/warlocks/lylyth-reckoning-of-everblight
Those who would oppose Everblight’s will must stand ready to pay a heavy cost, and it is Lylyth, the dragon’s Reckoning, who will exact that price. Those few who have survived Lylyth’s raids speak of the susurration of runners on frozen ground and an ominous keening noise in the air. As the first arrows strike, that sound is revealed to be wind whistling along the cruelly barbed blades and across the overlapping metal scales of her war sleigh as it is pulled across the snow by powerful ulks, their horns lowered to smash through anything in their path.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/03 19:29:20
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Lylyth on 120mm base page 28!)
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Infiltrating Prowler
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So awesome /)^3^(\
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/03 19:41:56
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Lylyth on 120mm base page 28!)
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Using Object Source Lighting
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lolwut?
Seriously, technically pretty nice, but I can't get behind that concept at all... I think it looks absurd, and not in the over the top cool way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/03 19:53:14
Subject: Privateer Press: Hordes: Gargantuans (Lylyth on 120mm base page 28!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Nice model, but all I can think of is Santa Claus and his sled! (Minus a few reindeer).
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