Rumors for Chaos Space Marines - Upd 8/12/2012 in OP

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**Brometheus**

Surely you expect infantry in the field to worry about things more... deadly? but, that is off topic so I wont go there my friend.

I think he looks just fine.

**unmercifulconker**

MY FAITH SHINES FROM MY PEARLY WHITES! Gotta have a nice smile when killing heretics.

Urgh its only the 20th. Hurry up starter set!

**H.B.M.C.**

unmercifulconker wrote:
MY FAITH SHINES FROM MY PEARLY WHITES! Gotta have a nice smile when killing heretics.

Funny you should say that. A Japanese company just brought out a mech (it has four wheels, not legs sadly, but has a full moveable torso and arms) and the twin-BB mini-guns fire when you smile. Want to keep firing? Keep smiling!

**unmercifulconker**

That is awesome

**Sir Samuel Buca**

For the first time in over 5 years I am now pledging myself to Chaos. I cannot describe on a child friendly forum how these rumours make me feel.
Though is anyone else worried from the pictures that the cultists are going to look a little short next to all other non-SM humans?

**baron deathnyx**

Every model will look short next to the awesome Hellbrute

**Matt.Kingsley**

In response to all those doubting a chaos release BECAUSE of the model pics we've gotten, rember that those pics came from a 6th Edition Starter Set Rumor Thread, not a CSM Rumor Thread!

**Praxiss**

not forgettign that these models are in the starter kit. that is no guarantee thatthey will look like thsi when the new kits come out.

If it is anything like AOBR the models will not have any options with them and will not have any poseability to them.

Also...is the Hellbrute supposed to replace the Chaos Dread? I only ask as they pretty much share a chassis and the weapon options seem pretty similar.

**Marthike**

Praxiss wrote:
not forgettign that these models are in the starter kit. that is no guarantee thatthey will look like thsi when the new kits come out.

If it is anything like AOBR the models will not have any options with them and will not have any poseability to them.

Also...is the Hellbrute supposed to replace the Chaos Dread? I only ask as they pretty much share a chassis and the weapon options seem pretty similar.

yes its the dreadnought replacement.

If you read the first page its been said 100 times by many people its even included in the rumour and answered by the Q/A

**aka_mythos**

There are rumored to be three different unit entries that collectively replace the Dreadnought, the hellbrute is one of the three.

**unmercifulconker**

I do trust these rumours, especially if the guy correctly predicted when the release would be and is also saying csm in sep along with others. But, I just cant help having huge doubts. All I wanna know is, have GW ever had a major release which no one saw coming? I.e. it was not in the WD?

Oooohhhh I really hope its sep, getting bored of reading csm next month already.

**wyomingfox**

The back page of the White Dwarf use to preview what would be featured in Next Month's WD.

This has ceased to the case in the past couple issues. For example, last month's WD showed a large mural of Fate Weaver...this related to what was featured in Last Month's WD issue, namely Deamon's Release.

This month, the WD article featured the 40K starter box pitting CSM and DA and the back cover featured a mural of a DA SM.

Looks to me like the trend is for the back cover to simply reflect that month's featured release. No more previews.

**kenzosan**

unmercifulconker wrote:
I do trust these rumours, especially if the guy correctly predicted when the release would be and is also saying csm in sep along with others. But, I just cant help having huge doubts. All I wanna know is, have GW ever had a major release which no one saw coming? I.e. it was not in the WD?

Oooohhhh I really hope its sep, getting bored of reading csm next month already.

For as much as I can remember within the last month there is usually huge signs of a release. IF something is coming in September and it's not CSM then I would be surprised. CSM may not release in September but it's likely that or nothing.

**SpitfireArsonist**

wyomingfox wrote:
The back page of the White Dwarf use to preview what would be featured in Next Month's WD.

This has ceased to the case in the past couple issues. For example, last month's WD showed a large mural of Fate Weaver...this related to what was featured in Last Month's WD issue, namely Deamon's Release.

This month, the WD article featured the 40K starter box pitting CSM and DA and the back cover featured a mural of a DA SM.

Looks to me like the trend is for the back cover to simply reflect that month's featured release. No more previews.

I'm okay with this. Not like most people really wait around for the WD for previews anyways. Seems like most simply use it as rumor confirmation source.

**kenzosan**

The choas trailer for the starter. Is there an emote that shows foaming at the mouth?

No information, just excited to see something that isn't DA related for once.

**Brometheus**

Apparently, September is actually still correct. October release, Sept Pre-order.

Stickmonkey, today, BoLS forum:

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It's hitting pretty hard that CSM are actually October, the confusion amongst the rumor mongers is that word is WD will hit the 22nd, in time for GD UK the 23rd. With pre-orders for CSM within. And on sale date of Sept. 29th. with a later in the month of Oct 2nd wave.

So the CSM out Sept is technically correct, but the reality is its the Oct release.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

**kenzosan**

Faeit is still pretty adamant about September. Unless some new news has come out.

**Brometheus**

That's what I'm thinking.. but I suspect that "Preorder Sept and Release October" are one in the same, yes? You can say both.

When it gets to a point where I see at least a preview for it, I'd call that "The book is confirmed".

**kenzosan**

Brometheus wrote:
That's what I'm thinking.. but I suspect that "Preorder Sept and Release October" are one in the same, yes? You can say both.

When it gets to a point where I see at least a preview for it, I'd call that "The book is confirmed".

I just want the book. I don't really mind waiting a couple weeks.

Spoiler:

/rant

**Brother SRM**

kenzosan wrote:
I'm sick of this damn bias towards marines. I mean come on.

That's your reasoning. My reasoning would be "Wow, these Chaos guys look really, really, REALLY badass, and are way cooler than these other dudes. I wanna play them."

**Brometheus**

I wanna get every single bolter chosen I can find and make them Rubricae. 5 Squads of Tsons? Yes please.

Only need 8. Think it will be easy?

**kenzosan**

Brother SRM wrote:
kenzosan wrote:
I'm sick of this damn bias towards marines. I mean come on.

That's your reasoning. My reasoning would be "Wow, these Chaos guys look really, really, REALLY badass, and are way cooler than these other dudes. I wanna play them."

But as I pointed out. You can't use them. That's the point. New players can't just walk into a GW after playing the starter set a couple times and get a new Chaos army started because they won't exist, the units they used, and no one at GW will tell him "oh yea the new codex comes out in a month so come back then to buy it."

**unmercifulconker**

Brometheus wrote:
I wanna get every single bolter chosen I can find and make them Rubricae. 5 Squads of Tsons? Yes please.

Only need 8. Think it will be easy?

Anythings possible if you believe. Remember if you can dream it, you can do it!

Cheesiness aside, I can wait a little longer, if it was coming out the 22nd we should see leaks very early yes?

**AlmightyWalrus**

kenzosan wrote:
Brother SRM wrote:
kenzosan wrote:
I'm sick of this damn bias towards marines. I mean come on.

That's your reasoning. My reasoning would be "Wow, these Chaos guys look really, really, REALLY badass, and are way cooler than these other dudes. I wanna play them."

But as I pointed out. You can't use them. That's the point. New players can't just walk into a GW after playing the starter set a couple times and get a new Chaos army started because they won't exist, the units they used, and no one at GW will tell him "oh yea the new codex comes out in a month so come back then to buy it."

Or the starter set includes the rules for the Chaos stuff, just as AoBR did?

**Ketran**

Hello everyone, I just joined this forum specifically so I could reply to this thread. I noticed nobody has thought to bring this interesting item up yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1tJmi9zNFk&feature=player_embedded

I guess this pretty much confirms an update to Chaos, though what could it be exactly? I never thought Chaos were in need of an update, if anything I speculated Tau or even Eldar would be next. I do have a theory however, I think this update could bring about the return of Malal, specifically units that worship him.

That symbol at the end of the video shares more characteristics with the skull of Malal than anything else, unless somebody can explain its origins to me.

**MasterSlowPoke**

I'm assuming it's the badge of the Crimson Slaughter, the force featured in the new starter set that video is promoting.

**Ketran**

That sounds a lot more plausible.

**Praxiss**

I would guess that, in lieu of a codex when the starter kit comes out, the mission book that comes with it will have a section for rules of any new units (Hellbrute, Cultists).

Other than those units everything in the set is covered by the current dex's i think?

**Dr. Delorean**

That hasn't happened before, has it? Having units without proper rules yet appearing in a starter set, I mean. I can see them including some kind of rules update in the WD for people who want to use the cultists and Hellbrute though.

**Praxiss**

That may be more likely.