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Although it appears to still be available on the GW site, 2 indy retailers today are saying that the Battleforce is now discontinued.....

The 22nd release Wd previewing the new chaos models, with said models, codex cover, pages etc etc then being viewable at GD UK on the 23rd seems quite plausible to me.

I am starting to doubt that CSM will release in September, I don't believe GW would do two major releases in the same month, plus there is a list of the models being released on the 15th and there is nothing Chaos related on that list. It makes me sad to have to wait another month possibly. But on a side not I will keep buys with the 2 starter sets I am buying, it will give me plenty of stuff to paint.

Heh, I guess it makes sense to play the hurry up and wait game I learned in the army when it comes to a tabletop game based on combat.

If it is October, so be it. As long as it is within the next 3 months. I want to dig in and flesh out my Chaos army.

You guys do realise that the video I linked says 25 August right? That's three days.

 Ketran wrote:
You guys do realise that the video I linked says 25 August right? That's three days.

Thats for the preorder starter sets.

I can't wait for a new kid going into the store with his 20 cultists, chaos lord, and hellbrute asking for a game.

 Brometheus wrote:
I can't wait for a new kid going into the store with his 20 cultists, chaos lord, and hellbrute asking for a game.

I wouldn't call it a horrible ~500 point list ( you forgot chosen BTW).

Yes, but my point is that 2/3 of the force would not have a codex for use in normal games, that's all.

 Brometheus wrote:
Yes, but my point is that 2/3 of the force would not have a codex for use in normal games, that's all.

Pretty sure the rules are going to be in the starter box so they will indeed have rules. Otherwise I think it would be a poor choice to release them before the codex.

Also, some guy on BoLS forums said that his local store owner said "The chaos codex will be on sale Sept 8, if you give me $20, I will hold one for you".

Sounds like someone is getting their leg pulled by a gakky store owner.

PS- I understand that the starter set will include rules for the Hellbrute and Cultists, I am not denying that.

The thing that has me doubting all this "CSM's coming in sept/oct!" stuff though is the back page of the new WD. It's a full page colour picture of a DA Company Master.

Since when have GW advertised one army, but then released a completely different one?!
And outside of the Daemon books, since when has GW in the past 15 years released 2 different armies in the same month?!?

To me all the concrete GW evidence seems to be hinting at Dark Angels as being the first codex for 6th. I mean, ever since 2nd edition, hasn't the very first codex released for a new edition been a loyalist marine codex of some variety?!

Alright, but let's remember GW fluff everything up by (like every other magazine out there) releasing their monthly book before the next month.

So:

1. People say September is Chaos, but you see a DA on the last of this coming (september) WD.

2. Sept 22nd is supposedly when the next (October) WD is, to get ready for the 23rd gamesday or whatever the feth in the UK.

3. Therefore, it makes sense when rumor mongers say "Chaos is September", even though you see the DA image as being for stuff in the September WD.

To be fair, they are not advertising any army. In fact, they are doing no advertising at all at the moment as you know. So your point of advertising DA but releasing CSM is as weak as my left leg. There's only one other person saying DA is september.. and it's that goddamn troll on Faeit212.

If you're watching, troll. Feth you.

I'll be happy for DA players if they do in fact get a new codex in September. That just means I will have more reason to play my custom Tsons rules at my local store.

I have also had too much coffee. Someone stop me!

Hi all, I hope that some of you might be able to help me - I have searched for a price, and wasn't able to find one.

Even an estimated price will be nice :-D

Cheers all

@Brometheus: The back cover of WD is almost always a hint at what's coming out in the next month's issue. The new September issue coming out this Saturday is almost exclusively about the new 40k core set, and has the picture of a DA Company Master on the back cover, thus hinting at the October WD being DA releated in some way. This could be the new DA codex which we know is 'in the pipeline', or a model wave of DA's, or just a bunch of DA articles, or some combination of the above.
If Chaos Marines were indeed coming in October, wouldn't there have been some kind of chaosy artwork as well, or instead of, the DA artwork?

Now if the new Chaos Marine codex is supposed to be a September release, then why isn't it advertised in the new September WD?!! Have GW ever done a 'ninja' release that wasn't plastered all over the New Release section of that month's WD?!



I'm not trying to troll or anything - I want that new CSM codex badly as well so I can add a proper 'summoning cult' as allies to my Daemons damnit! I just think that the actual, in-print evidence we currently have is likely hinting at something else...

We've also had too many false claims now in regards to this eagerly awaited codex. First it was "Chaos Marines in May!", then it was "Chaos Marines this summer," which then became "Chaos Marines in August!" Now we're hearing both "Chaos Marines in early September or late September" and/or "Chaos Marines in early October!"
I think it would best to stop pinning hopes on rumors as it's getting just too depressing that each 'release month' has been getting pushed back further and further...

Me? I'm starting to think 'new CSM's codex by January!' Sure it sucks to wait and not know, but it's better than having my hopes repeatedly dashed time and time again by crossed rumor wires.

So what is this?

Looking back at the recent wd, the back page does not always cover what the man focus of the magazine is. The month fliers where released, the back page had orks, white scars and crons on it, this was just a article and campain thing. The main release didn't have anything to do with them, could this be the same?

Lets say that Chaos is next month but there is a article on DA, this would explain the back page and fit with the current trend of pack pages because gw doesn't want to give anything away.

This is just my opinion but could explain both rumours and the back page.

 1hadhq wrote:
So what is this?

It's for the starter set, and that's the pre-order date for said starter set.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Or the starter set includes the rules for the Chaos stuff, just as AoBR did?

We know it will. But the point is you can't buy more of them unless you buy another starter. A new player starting an army is not going to shell out for another starter when they don't need over half the stuff in it.

From Faeit 2012 via Stickmonkey on BoLS Lounge

StickMonkey wrote:
It's hitting pretty hard that CSM are actually October, the confusion amongst the rumor mongers is that word is WD will hit the 22nd, in time for GD UK the 23rd. With pre-orders for CSM within. And on sale date of Sept. 29th. with a later in the month of Oct 2nd wave.

So the CSM out Sept is technically correct, but the reality is its the Oct release.

This will be awesome if we get the CSM previews at GDUK!

Experiment 626 wrote:
@Brometheus: The back cover of WD is almost always a hint at what's coming out in the next month's issue. The new September issue coming out this Saturday is almost exclusively about the new 40k core set, and has the picture of a DA Company Master on the back cover, thus hinting at the October WD being DA releated in some way. This could be the new DA codex which we know is 'in the pipeline', or a model wave of DA's, or just a bunch of DA articles, or some combination of the above.
If Chaos Marines were indeed coming in October, wouldn't there have been some kind of chaosy artwork as well, or instead of, the DA artwork?

Now if the new Chaos Marine codex is supposed to be a September release, then why isn't it advertised in the new September WD?!! Have GW ever done a 'ninja' release that wasn't plastered all over the New Release section of that month's WD?!



I'm not trying to troll or anything - I want that new CSM codex badly as well so I can add a proper 'summoning cult' as allies to my Daemons damnit! I just think that the actual, in-print evidence we currently have is likely hinting at something else...

We've also had too many false claims now in regards to this eagerly awaited codex. First it was "Chaos Marines in May!", then it was "Chaos Marines this summer," which then became "Chaos Marines in August!" Now we're hearing both "Chaos Marines in early September or late September" and/or "Chaos Marines in early October!"

I think it would best to stop pinning hopes on rumors as it's getting just too depressing that each 'release month' has been getting pushed back further and further...

Me? I'm starting to think 'new CSM's codex by January!' Sure it sucks to wait and not know, but it's better than having my hopes repeatedly dashed time and time again by crossed rumor wires.

Or it could mean that the '' Battle rages on'' against the new chaos marines.

Stickmonkey's post.

That is all.

Like I said, it would be nice.. but I'm covered either way because I have friends who allow custom stuff occasionally.

Current WD (Daemons) has Daemons on back cover. I think back cover images have started been a reference to the actual issue they're printed on. Almost like a wrap-around. They really should start doing wrap-around covers (and rope John Blanche into doing every single cover, lol). That would be nice.

The inside backcover was what gave the hints, at least, that's the case here in Aus...

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
The inside backcover was what gave the hints, at least, that's the case here in Aus...

But that is because they have to have a drab plain cover hiding the branding and explaining that playing the game may kill you in Aus land isn't it.

mm, or was that something else

my local store is a small one, so instead of bringing lot of things to the store there are a few minis in the place and every few months they do a concentrated order from GW with a catalog of what they can bring (cuz GW limits em). before a few days they starter a new order and there are 3 interesting things in it:
1. there is the new starter set to order, including the special edition one
2. there is a dark vengeance novel
3. usually they bring all of the codexes (except SoB), but this time there is no chaos space marine codex. i think it means GW dont wanna sell the old codex cuz there going to be a new 1.

Just got off the phone to my GW FLGS Manager, called to ask if I can put my name down to reserve an LE box, and asked if he knew anything about a replacement codex.

I was told that as there are new units in the box that don't currently have rules the codex must be supplied at the same time or close to the release of the starter kit.

It's already been said that there will be a booklet with the rules in for these units, I just don't think I can believe that GW will have people working half out of an 5 year old codex whilst flicking through a 2 page booklet for a couple of other units. I doubt that they'd feel right in play.

I'm really hoping that they'll release the Codex with the starter kit. Fingers crossed.

I'm honestly not sure if you even can flick through a 2-page booklet.

 merchant wrote:
Hi all, I hope that some of you might be able to help me - I have searched for a price, and wasn't able to find one.

Even an estimated price will be nice :-D

Cheers all

I have seen $99 for the starter set on a forum somewhere, and US $108 for the limited edition. i guess that would be £65 for the basic. I have also seen AUS$180 mentioned - hope that gives you some idea.

 kitch102 wrote:

I'm really hoping that they'll release the Codex with the starter kit. Fingers crossed.

Talk is that on the 22nd of September the WD will be announcing pre-orders for new Chaos stuff, and it will release the first of October. I don't think it'll be a big deal having to wait a month at most for access to a new codex; it's going to take that long for a lot of people to get around to painting and building the models in the first place, and on top of that it'll mean nothing 30 days later.

They'll probably put out a small iOS only document for $5.99 ($8.99 in Oz!) to cover the 'in between' period.

Yes I'm a cynic.