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I think that if you are passionate about having a certain kind of army, you will find a way to make it and make it well.

Thousand Sons for example. They're known for 2 things.. psykers and rubric marines. Well, the Rubric Marines you'll be able to get as troops with a Sorcerer HQ with mark of tzeentch. Max out your Sorcs and throw in some tanks or daemon engines. Then ally with Daemons of Tzeentch to throw in more psyker goodness! Paint it all blue and gold and you're there. It doesn't seem that hard to me.

Yes, you won't have rubric terminators. I think we all just need to make peace with the fact that the Codex writers really don't want to bother designing 9 different styles of Terminators (one for each legion) just like they couldn't do that with every troop, fast attack, or heavy option.

Look outside the box. Years ago I wrote a post about using the rules without the models on miniwargaming.com. It was well received by Chaos players that didn't like Nurgle because I gave them new ways to represent the plague marine unit option without having to buy that particular box of miniatures.

If there's something not available exactly as you want it, go and find a way to make it work. Don't just whine about it.

People who feel that Thousand Sons are not diverse really need to read Battle of the Fang.

I think this book will provide us with the necessary tools for thematic adventures.

Mirroring others, I do not want to be the next GK. I just want to build a different list every few games or so and have it be fun.

Who else cant wait to just put all the delicious goodness into your cart. There's just something special about coming home to a big box on the chair, turning on some epic music then opening the big box seeing all the perfect rectangular boxes all neatly packed wrapped in that shiny goodness, eagerly taking off the wrapping off each box, admiring it, setting it down and then gazing into the box to find even more perfect rectangular boxes.

Chaos Release: The Erotica Novel.

Can confirm Chaos are not September release.

You can confirm they're not in WD. Anything else?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm honestly not sure if you even can flick through a 2-page booklet.

Since a two-page "booklet" would be a single piece of paper with delusions of grandeur, I'd think not.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Who else cant wait to just put all the delicious goodness into your cart. There's just something special about coming home to a big box on the chair, turning on some epic music then opening the big box seeing all the perfect rectangular boxes all neatly packed wrapped in that shiny goodness, eagerly taking off the wrapping off each box, admiring it, setting it down and then gazing into the box to find even more perfect rectangular boxes.

Chaos Release: The Erotica Novel.

Then that feeling of disappointment when you read the codex and find out half those models are useless because they are too expensive or they don't fit in with your army make up.

I've become a crusher of hopes and dreams from all the years of crushed hopes and dreams GW as given me.

Luckily for me I go bezerk for anything GW throw in front of me. The only thing I have disliked is the prices

I can never do a competetive list, I have to do a fluffy or fun army with ridiculous choices. 1000 point game with 10 terminators anyone?

 Dr. Delorean wrote:

i'm looking forward to the new daemon engines and proper warsmith rules to make my Iron Warriors more fluffy.

Praxiss, are we the same person? Because the more I experience your point of view the more I come to realize it is identical to my own.

In any case, if it wasn't obvious, I am also looking forward to (hopefully) getting some damn Warsmiths and perhaps some kind of change to Havocs or something. As it is we can already take Basilisks, and that's half the battle.

LOl.

There are quite a few IW players hiding out around here. We tend to come out fo the woodwork when rumours of a new big gun for chaos armies appears!

I was planning on getting some IG Cadian squads to play as traitor guard for me allies (got the FW renegade commadn sqaud for the HQ) - depending on cost i might switch to using cultists models instead....coudl look better. Any excuse to field my Bassie ina 40k game!

I'm hoping the Warsmith gets some nice options. My metal one has a converion beam in place of a servo-arm and it woudl be awesoem to actually use him (use him in apoc as a MoTF)

I would like a solid 1k Sons list to complement my existing Wolves army. Also I think that a nice Slaneesh army would be nice to field as well.

I noticed in the new WD that the chaos lord -- " Kranon the Relentless -- has a 5+ invulnerable save due to his " Aura of Dark Majesty".

Aura of Dark Majesty? Sounds decidedly Vampire Counts to me!

I'm planning on getting around 40 cultists to use for either Infantry Platoons or Penal Legion, so I can ally them into my IW army, alongside 3 Medusae.

Well ladies and gents, looks like we might have to wait another month to see anything about the Chaos Codex, I am sitting here currently looking at the inside of the back cover of the newest issue of WD and there artwork of a DA, seems to me for the past several months that this inside of the back cover is a way for GW to give us all a hint of what is to come next month. If this artwork is any indication of what is to come I think I am going to be thoroughly disappointed. What do you guys think this artwork means?

I can't wait to flesh out a chaos force around the starter pieces. Chaos can't come soon enough for me!!!

Bought two starter sets, have to keep telling myself if worse comes to worse, at least I'll have two awesome models (hellbrutes). I really hope that the CSM codex doesn't disappoint, don't fail us Phil Kelly!

 Synister_Intent wrote:
Well ladies and gents, looks like we might have to wait another month to see anything about the Chaos Codex, I am sitting here currently looking at the inside of the back cover of the newest issue of WD and there artwork of a DA, seems to me for the past several months that this inside of the back cover is a way for GW to give us all a hint of what is to come next month. If this artwork is any indication of what is to come I think I am going to be thoroughly disappointed. What do you guys think this artwork means?

I think somebody posted that Hastings said late September early October for the next codex.

 wowsmash wrote:

 Synister_Intent wrote:
Well ladies and gents, looks like we might have to wait another month to see anything about the Chaos Codex, I am sitting here currently looking at the inside of the back cover of the newest issue of WD and there artwork of a DA, seems to me for the past several months that this inside of the back cover is a way for GW to give us all a hint of what is to come next month. If this artwork is any indication of what is to come I think I am going to be thoroughly disappointed. What do you guys think this artwork means?

I think somebody posted that Hastings said late September early October for the next codex.

Late September pre-order (like Dark Vengeance was this month) and October 1st release.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:

 Synister_Intent wrote:
Well ladies and gents, looks like we might have to wait another month to see anything about the Chaos Codex, I am sitting here currently looking at the inside of the back cover of the newest issue of WD and there artwork of a DA, seems to me for the past several months that this inside of the back cover is a way for GW to give us all a hint of what is to come next month. If this artwork is any indication of what is to come I think I am going to be thoroughly disappointed. What do you guys think this artwork means?

I think somebody posted that Hastings said late September early October for the next codex.

Late September pre-order (like Dark Vengeance was this month) and October 1st release.

Just gives me time to paint I suppose.

Tyr Grimtooth wrote:
I would like a solid 1k Sons list to complement my existing Wolves army. Also I think that a nice Slaneesh army would be nice to field as well.

Congratulations, you are asking to come home to a house on fire one day.

I suggest two separate army cases.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:

 Synister_Intent wrote:
Well ladies and gents, looks like we might have to wait another month to see anything about the Chaos Codex, I am sitting here currently looking at the inside of the back cover of the newest issue of WD and there artwork of a DA, seems to me for the past several months that this inside of the back cover is a way for GW to give us all a hint of what is to come next month. If this artwork is any indication of what is to come I think I am going to be thoroughly disappointed. What do you guys think this artwork means?

I think somebody posted that Hastings said late September early October for the next codex.

Late September pre-order (like Dark Vengeance was this month) and October 1st release.

I hope you are right Brother SRM. I really do.

 Synister_Intent wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:

 Synister_Intent wrote:
Well ladies and gents, looks like we might have to wait another month to see anything about the Chaos Codex, I am sitting here currently looking at the inside of the back cover of the newest issue of WD and there artwork of a DA, seems to me for the past several months that this inside of the back cover is a way for GW to give us all a hint of what is to come next month. If this artwork is any indication of what is to come I think I am going to be thoroughly disappointed. What do you guys think this artwork means?

I think somebody posted that Hastings said late September early October for the next codex.

Late September pre-order (like Dark Vengeance was this month) and October 1st release.

I hope you are right Brother SRM. I really do.

Logicly CSM should be next since we new have models without all the rules to use them...but with gw they toss logic out the window unless thousands of people send in a petition or strongly worded letters saying it time to realese the chaos space marine codex.

"I hope you're right, I really do"

I have this idea that somehow melee cultists will work in the new codex. Deck em out in an icon for fnp (if that is one) and mark of khorne. That's a lot of potential imo. 3 attacks minimum per model, assuming they'll be like guard we could have upward of 150 melee strikes. Fnp for some kind of survival.
Don't you dare crush this dream gw!

But seriously, cultist could be useful depending on the options they get. I just don't see a point in buying a starter since I don't know if I want any of it. None of you know the rules and you all buy it. This is why gw doesn't care about the complaints. I'm sorry I got sidetracked at the end there.

My personal biggest concern, more than rules, is that CSM's get the same fluff "treatment" that the 5E marine books did, with absurdly ridiculous feats (Chaos Lord WorldStab slays 9002 Leman Russ tanks by himself!), awful naming conventions (looks like the "Hell" is going to be CSM's equivalent of "wolyfwolfwolf"), and stuff hamfisted in for it's own sake (Wolf Claws, TWC's, Dreadknights, Librarian AV13 dreads, heavy battle tanks in FA slots, etc) rather than because it actually fits or that it was needed in some way.

Also, an avoidance of gimmick mechanics. I'm all for fun game design, but junk like the Imhotek, Vulkan, Death Rays, Blood Talons, JotWW, etc bypasses too many game mechanics, while requiring no interactivity, command ability, etc. Leave them out please.

Now, granted, much of that is subjective, but in general there's been a great deal of discontent on that front showing that, for many 5th edition books at least, GW did cross a line for more than just those that will be upset by any changes, and I'm hoping that stops.

Well, I'm not impressed with the Helbrute.

You guys go ahead and enjoy that one.


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 Dr. Delorean wrote:
I'm planning on getting around 40 cultists to use for either Infantry Platoons or Penal Legion, so I can ally them into my IW army, alongside 3 Medusae.

That sounds like a pretty bad idea. In general, using models that are legal in your army list to represent entirely different models that are legal in your army list is frowned upon.

 Brometheus wrote:
Well, I'm not impressed with the Helbrute.

You guys go ahead and enjoy that one.


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I agree with you there. I don't like the model either to be honest.

But saying that, the cultists are amazing. I think it may have been worth buying the box just for them.

Evilledz wrote:

 Brometheus wrote:
Well, I'm not impressed with the Helbrute.

You guys go ahead and enjoy that one.


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I agree with you there. I don't like the model either to be honest.

But saying that, the cultists are amazing. I think it may have been worth buying the box just for them.

I like the look, but I'm just not a fan of Dreadnought stuff. I prefer a tank, infantry, and mc's. I think it stems mainly from my loathing of walkers. As I said before, without knowing the rules and going by rumors it makes no sense to jump on this starter. This is why I've hated the "starter showing off new models for chaos but not having any rules for it before hand" and yet everyone seems to be super excited for this starter because, "OMFG new chaos models!"

I'm grabbing a couple of Hellbrutes from friends (Dark Angel playing friends. I am ashamed). I'm not overly enamoured by the model, but it does have some nice details I'd like to copy. The powerfist especially is very nice, and I'm glad I'll have two to play with, but most of the fleshy details are just generic and boring.

 Synister_Intent wrote:
Well ladies and gents, looks like we might have to wait another month to see anything about the Chaos Codex, I am sitting here currently looking at the inside of the back cover of the newest issue of WD and there artwork of a DA, seems to me for the past several months that this inside of the back cover is a way for GW to give us all a hint of what is to come next month. If this artwork is any indication of what is to come I think I am going to be thoroughly disappointed. What do you guys think this artwork means?

When i first saw it I instantly thought that GW had not gotten over their fetish for making some form of Loyalist Space Marines their first army. Going down this road, I saw November as out of the question since WoC are slated for Nov apparently, and December is most assuredly The Hobitt. I had a bad feeling CSM will be pushed back to 2013, given that I thought they were coming out in early Aug, then early Sep. and we all know how that went.(for those of you who argue that it's not september yet, we know the Box Set is September. GW will not release the CSM Codex at the same time as the Starter Box. Plus there is nothing about CSM beyond the Starter box inside this months WD), What little optimism that I have is hoping for this time next month for orders. However, past expeirence has taught me it's better to be pleasantly surprised, that bitterly dissapointed.