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 Morachi wrote:


Yep, now that we know Space Marine are after Eldar, we can safely bet that there will be negating effects like the Bright Lance / Machine Spirit rubbish happen all over again. Or Smurfs get their own Jetbikes with Eldar-esque movement... or perhaps a bunch of crazy Psychic powers?

Call me Jaded, but I blame history.

History tends to support your theory. I remember being so excited about the Void Raven when it came out. It was fast, fragile and shooty. The most fantastic thing to add to my twelve year old DE force.

Then SM got the Stormraven. Which was just as fast...but could shoot a weapon...and had more weapons...better weapons....better missiles...better armour...transport capacity and assault ramp....

I get that SM are meant to be good, and I know the SR costs a chunk of points but they just shouldn't be able to match every Xeno race at everything.

OT: I'm really looking forward to the CWE codex, even if I can't afford to start a new army.

 Souleater wrote:

 Morachi wrote:


Yep, now that we know Space Marine are after Eldar, we can safely bet that there will be negating effects like the Bright Lance / Machine Spirit rubbish happen all over again. Or Smurfs get their own Jetbikes with Eldar-esque movement... or perhaps a bunch of crazy Psychic powers?

Call me Jaded, but I blame history.

History tends to support your theory. I remember being so excited about the Void Raven when it came out. It was fast, fragile and shooty. The most fantastic thing to add to my twelve year old DE force.

Then SM got the Stormraven. Which was just as fast...but could shoot a weapon...and had more weapons...better weapons....better missiles...better armour...transport capacity and assault ramp....

I get that SM are meant to be good, and I know the SR costs a chunk of points but they just shouldn't be able to match every Xeno race at everything.

OT: I'm really looking forward to the CWE codex, even if I can't afford to start a new army.

...Your DE flier does still look 1000x cooler, if it's any help?

Ok because Arrathon didn't i will.

 Arrathon wrote:
Unsure if it is in some Eldar spot, But i found this just seconds ago .. Eldar are indeed coming

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/04/breaking-news-eldar-model-pic-plastic.html#more

... not sure whether to be excited or not about this... can't see too clearly. What's the piece in the bottom left? The proportions look nice though, and I'm a sucker for flowy robes blowing in a breeze... Thumbs up?

Heres a bigger picture





The bit down bottom left appears to be part of his robe. It looks like they've repurposed the Yerial scuplt for the farseer.

Looks legit to me. Just had a look at the image and it does indeed have all the odds and sods related to a Farseer (inc/ Ghost Helm). The base looks pretty nifty to with the Eldrich runes on it.

Guess its going to be the first non-metal Farseer in my army... suppose the rest will be singing, "One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong..."

Yep, that's definitely a Farseer. Awesome find. Looks monopose, but that's usually for the best for one-of models. Plenty of pieces make plastic models tolerable.

That base looks awful, though. It'll have to go.

 Morachi wrote:
Guess its going to be the first non-metal Farseer in my army... suppose the rest will be singing, "One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong..."

Just be happy that they seem to be skipping Finecast for this release so far.

Oh I am elated it isn't Finecast - just having a laugh at the tonne of metal i've got laying around.

 Absolutionis wrote:
Just be happy that they seem to be skipping Finecast for this release so far.

You want to put money on that?

 Breotan wrote:

 Absolutionis wrote:
Just be happy that they seem to be skipping Finecast for this release so far.

You want to put money on that?

If I did, it'd be like a double loss.

Either way, every new Finecast release for recent lines (Tau and Daemons and Spikymarines) has been an HQ choice. At least the Generic Farseer will be plastic.

There's been a single sprue plastic HQ for them, too, hasn't there? I expect this to be more of the same.

 Morachi wrote:
Oh I am elated it isn't Finecast

Ain't that the truth.

More models like this are needed (not 1 out of 3 new releases, but 3 out of 3). They are simply fantastic. The Aspiring Champ model that came out for CSM's is great, and my all-time fav is easily the WFB Nurgle Champ with the big axe. The Sorcerer should've been plastic. The heralds should'a been plastic. The other Tau special char should've been plastic.

More plastic minis!

 Absolutionis wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 Absolutionis wrote:
Just be happy that they seem to be skipping Finecast for this release so far.

You want to put money on that?

If I did, it'd be like a double loss.

Either way, every new Finecast release for recent lines (Tau and Daemons and Spikymarines) has been an HQ choice. At least the Generic Farseer will be plastic.

Mutilators?

Gotta agree with you there H. That Nurgle champ is damn spiffy. I'm also quite partial the Saurus Oldblood. That's another fine looking 1sprue plastic model.

I don't think Mutilators count. I mean... just look at 'em.

I'll be getting the new Farseer, even though I've got Eldrad and 3 others already painted. I do like the older style helmet combined with the newer style. Plastic is always welcome over metal and Finecast as well.

Definitely looking forward to seeing a new codex in June.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Morachi wrote:
Oh I am elated it isn't Finecast

Ain't that the truth.

More models like this are needed (not 1 out of 3 new releases, but 3 out of 3). They are simply fantastic. The Aspiring Champ model that came out for CSM's is great, and my all-time fav is easily the WFB Nurgle Champ with the big axe. The Sorcerer should've been plastic. The heralds should'a been plastic. The other Tau special char should've been plastic.

More plastic minis!

Agreed on the Nurgle Champ. The Savage Orc big boss is also amazing. I have to say I'm decidedly meh about the Farseer. I know there's only a few poses they can use, but I much prefer the aesthetics of the metal ones released in 2006, not to say that photos of it assembled wont chane my mind.

Updated the first post. But we will soon need a new one, as most info is quite old and speculative, the thread being 9 months old.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Morachi wrote:
Oh I am elated it isn't Finecast

Ain't that the truth.

More models like this are needed (not 1 out of 3 new releases, but 3 out of 3). They are simply fantastic. The Aspiring Champ model that came out for CSM's is great, and my all-time fav is easily the WFB Nurgle Champ with the big axe. The Sorcerer should've been plastic. The heralds should'a been plastic. The other Tau special char should've been plastic.

More plastic minis!

If we're going down that route, the commander battlesuit should have been plastic, too. And fully poseable. Makes no sense as a mono-pose Finecast model with no options (you apparently don't get any other weapons with it besides the two special issue guns and a plasma rifle, you need to cannibalize bits from the crisis suits).

That's what I don't like about these plastic blisters: they're all mono-pose models with no options. And the new ones are all priced at $20-25 each, the same as the multi-part plastic SM commander, even though that old-ass commander is a much better kit. One of the main advantages of producing in plastic is that you can offer extra bits and options, different poses, etc. If you're not going to offer that then you would really be better off just casting them in metal or resin (not Finecast) so you can at least get a better-detailed sculpt. GW plastics aren't that bad, but even GW's best plastic kits still aren't as detailed as metal/resin can be.

Anyway, I'm curious to see what the new Eldar flyer looks like. I'm expecting it to be ugly as feth, but I'd like to be surprised.

Looking at the sprue, and how the parts go together, the farseer looks to be a plastic version of this guy:

Typically speaking, most Eldar kits are pretty decent. The only ones I can think of that looked like they were dropped on their face at birth were the "Striking Bunnies" as the 2nd incarnation of Striking Scorpions and the "Rabbitseer" with the spear and twin Ghost Helm fins.

Generally i've been very very happy with the way all of the Eldar range have turned out. My wallet is crapping broken glass right now though, just when the Warhost looked like there wasn't anything else to add... this little gem pops up.

As long as the 6th Ed Codex reflects the awesomeness of the models, I will at least have a shred of faith left in GW's capability to produce something somewhat unique. I've yet to find any other product out there even close to the Eldar miniature range (3rd party addons such as Chapter House not-withstanding).

Farseer looks like a good sculpt, if not exactly groundbreaking. Love the base, just wish they'd lose the Pharoh's beard on the helmet; don't like it on the Avenger exarch, just doesn't seem to fit the Eldar aesthetic, and it's no better here.

So very pleased to see a solid indication that my Eldar are going to get updated soon; waited a long time

thank feck its plastic
sorry to say that gw plastics are better models than there finecast and cant see any reason why finecast exsists

but hope to see more eldar stuff as not long started an eldar army just hope to hell they ditch all the aspect warriors in finecast I know its a dream lol

bit81 wrote:
thank feck its plastic
sorry to say that gw plastics are better models than there finecast and cant see any reason why finecast exsists

but hope to see more eldar stuff as not long started an eldar army just hope to hell they ditch all the aspect warriors in finecast I know its a dream lol

Absolutely, its been a nightmare trying to find a few Shining Spears and Howling Banshees in metal (to flush out a couple of units) as I can only buy Finecast now... and at direct prices only. I pray that I don't have to buy a single Finecast product ever, I may even consider having any model that is, recast in another material just for durability purposes (something that melts/bends in the car for longer than 10 mins isn't "fine" by any standards). At least my metal stuff is just pretty hot to handle

Still keen as beans to see what this giant walker is going to look like.

I am curious though, the moment I saw the sprue for the Farseer, I noted down the numbers and tried to compare them to the rumoured ones in this thread on page 10 or something. Couldn't find a matchup, but then again they may be for different purposes... that and this thread had no mention of a new Farseer model until today.

Cool, looks like a decent model. Can get a good idea of what that will look like complete. Also like the base(a few ideas for that already) . Will probably get one possibly two as looks like it will be easy to model this guy on a jet bike.

Above all , its not finecast !

But good to see some hard evidence that Eldar are finally on the way. Certainly has increased my excitement level. No doubt when I show this to my missues I'll get the eye roll and the tut., followed by the, cool and the slightly interested response.

@Morachi, I managed to bag a few units off ebay that are all metal(brand new in and out of box) one unit has a fine layer primer of white on it. Most of them came in at under or near retail price, but they aren't finecast, so in my eyes worth paying nearly the same.

 Morachi wrote:
As long as the 6th Ed Codex reflects the awesomeness of the models

I wouldn't hold my breath, honestly. They actually made Tau worse than they were before, and I didn't even think that was possible. The new units didn't really add much (even the flyer is overpriced crap), nothing got buffed that really needed it, and what little that worked actually got unnecessarily nerfed. I expect the Eldar codex to be a similar copy/paste job with gakky flyers and nerfs handed out to units that didn't need it.

But hey, at least you might get some good models out of it. Tau didn't even really get much in that department, besides the pathfinders and broadsides (overpriced and now useless in-game since they're now ineffective at what they were designed to do).

Well, to be fair, they can't make it much worse really. Hell if they just dropped the points costs on the decent models that would make life easier.

The issue at the moment is that alot of the models just don't have their niche anymore or are just so outdated they're a points sink - return on investment is almost nill, leading to a pyrrhic victory at best if used. Vypers, Banshees, Scorpions, Guardians, etc just to name a few.

Synergy has always been the way to play Eldar, and by Synergy I don't mean 2+2 = 4, synergy should be 2+2 = 5 (someone here said that and I thought that it was a fantastic analogy).

At the moment some of the best units in the game come directly from IA:11; Specifically the Nightwing, Hornet, Wasp, Warp Hunter and even to an extent the Corsairs... IMO what Guardians should aspire to be!

I guess we have that to fall back on if they snuff the bejesus out of the Eldar rules update.

Is it possible this is the GD model? as it doesn't seem to have many options?

I haven't been following GD news so if this has alreayd been debuncted ignore me

If it is, i'm keen on buying it from someone who doesn't want theirs for collector purposes

 Sgt.Roadkill wrote:
Is it possible this is the GD model? as it doesn't seem to have many options?

I haven't been following GD news so if this has alreayd been debuncted ignore me

If that is true.
Deep hurting. :(