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Something you will never see at a tournament - a man with three Wraithknights in his army wearing a wedding band.

$115 fething DOLLARS!!! Enough said, WTF GW?

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Kingsley wrote:
One important question is what exactly the "Windrider Jetbikes" are. Hopefully, this is a new Jetbike kit and not just a rename and repackage, as the current Jetbikes are some of the worst models in the Eldar range. Of course, even if it is a repackage that will be helpful as it'll bring prices down-- but I don't think many people will be very happy with that given the big price hike on Dire Avengers!

It's a rename and a repackage. Par for the course has been 3 new plastic boxes and one plastic blister since Chaos Space Marines, and those three new plastic kits are taken up this time with the Wraithknight, airplane, and Wraithguard. It's just three in one box, like the Crisis Suits.

Darn. The jetbike test sculpt that's been around for years is much better than the existing model, and I figured that with Farsight coming out more or less exactly like his old test sculpt, the jetbikes might do the same. Overall I'm a little underwhelmed by this release. I like the focus on Wraith stuff and the Wraithknight in particular strikes me as a gorgeous model, but I was really hoping for updates to jetbikes and Aspect Warriors, and the changes are much less comprehensive than with the (basically perfect) Dark Eldar redo. Sure, Eldar had less that needed to be updated, but I can't help but feel this release is missing a kit or two.

I love Eldar, but after seeing what they are doing with Dire Avengers and the continued propensity for awkward models that do not fit the design aesthetic I am both baffled and aghast. I really hope they never redo the Dark Eldar codex. Suddenly waiting another ten years looks completely viable.

 Oaka wrote:
Something you will never see at a tournament - a man with three Wraithknights in his army wearing a wedding band.

Don't say that, I'll take that challenge.


Then again, I own multiple Gargossals, so there's already evidence that my wife doesn't care what I spend my hobby budget on.

Oh I'll take that challenge. 2 at release and the third a month or two later.

It seems like if you're considering running Eldar, picking up a few Dire Avenger boxes now would be a pretty wise move. Worst case scenario, you can probably eBay them after the new Codex release for more than their current value.

I'm not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but why does the Eldar Wraithknight have a Yu-Gi-Oh duel disc on its arm? Are we serious with these models right now?

 Oaka wrote:
Something you will never see at a tournament - a man with three Wraithknights in his army wearing a wedding band.

Well, I will EVENTUALLY have them, although each will take a lot of converting work, since there are far too many of the blister/knobby bits on them and those need to be reduced. And I have a wedding band. But, I don't play tournaments, so your prediction will stand for now.

Nior Eternal wrote:
I'm not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but why does the Eldar Wraithknight have a Yu-Gi-Oh duel disc on its arm? Are we serious with these models right now?

That was sculpted in Trap mode. The next time this question enters the field, it is triggered activating some non-specific ancient curse. Cuuuuuurrrrssseee.

There's actually a pretty nice photoshop of it, something like 14 pages ago. He's rocking the Yugi-fro as well.

Nior Eternal wrote:
I'm not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but why does the Eldar Wraithknight have a Yu-Gi-Oh duel disc on its arm? Are we serious with these models right now?

Several.

Times.

shade1313 wrote:

Nior Eternal wrote:
I'm not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but why does the Eldar Wraithknight have a Yu-Gi-Oh duel disc on its arm? Are we serious with these models right now?

Several.

Times.

Well my apologies then, I couldn't find it with search and I didn't want to manually look for it

What came first, Yu-Gi-Oh! or Dire Avenger Shimmershields?

I dunno for sure, but still lets not act like this is the first Eldar model with that type of arm accessory.

Eldar looks freaking amazing!

To all the haters... seriously... SERIOUSLY!!!

So, no new plastic artillery? Is that going to be just phased out? The models don't exist anymore, do they?

Can't believe they're not giving a plastic seer counsel, plastic aspects OR plastic jetbikes. I thought at least 1 would have been a sure bet. Boo-urns I say.

Goobi2 wrote:
What came first, Yu-Gi-Oh! or Dire Avenger Shimmershields?

I dunno for sure, but still lets not act like this is the first Eldar model with that type of arm accessory.

The duel discs came first, but yeah, I figured it's cause of the Dire Avenger Exarch.

 Oaka wrote:
Something you will never see at a tournament - a man with three Wraithknights in his army wearing a wedding band.

And if the Codex is OP that same guy will provide allot of butt hurt! haha

The Crippler wrote:
So, no new plastic artillery? Is that going to be just phased out? The models don't exist anymore, do they?

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440244a&prodId=prod770020a
You mean this multi-part plastic kit that doesn't exist except through everywhere?

NO GW THAT'S A BAD GW!!!

Facepalm though my head...

So the Eldar sit there with models from 92 eh?
NO new jetbikes despite a seriously sexy prototype sitting there
Doubling the cost of DA. = Not cool... not cool at all.
The Titan thing is ok but £70 indicates a worrying trend.
The wraithguard could be cool. Hoping for dynamic kit with loads of options but as im unlikely to play Eldar (or start any new GW armies) it matters little i guess.

Also a 'Supplement' shouldnt really cost the same as the thing it is 'supplementing'

Damn GW, you scary...

Had literally no idea that had been redone. Mine are old and metal.

Well, still stands for the other 3 units.

So, we are back to the ridiculous pricing AND the shaky cam of concept art?
Also, Wraithknights are not unreasonably priced, for the size i tthink it is ok, Granted it is not GREAT, but for how big it is its ok.

I think the Wraithknight's price is probably fair for the size of the model, i just think it's unnecessary.

Monster40k here we come.... the line between Apocalypse and 40k dwindles still further

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So, we are back to the ridiculous pricing AND the shaky cam of concept art?
Also, Wraithknights are not unreasonably priced, for the size i tthink it is ok, Granted it is not GREAT, but for how big it is its ok.

I reckon there's no more material in it than the Riptide, just the long thin limbs make it look a lot bigger. So, no, not even close to great.

 DiabolicAl wrote:
I think the Wraithknight's price is probably fair for the size of the model, i just think it's unnecessary.

Monster40k here we come.... the line between Apocalypse and 40k dwindles still further

Well, Apocalypse is supposed to be "redone".

What if the redo is to simply make it work with normal 40k?

Just watch it become an Apocalypse only super heavy.

I am definitely not happy with GW. When I see this it all makes me think quitting GW more appealing.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 DiabolicAl wrote:
I think the Wraithknight's price is probably fair for the size of the model, i just think it's unnecessary.

Monster40k here we come.... the line between Apocalypse and 40k dwindles still further

Well, Apocalypse is supposed to be "redone".

What if the redo is to simply make it work with normal 40k?

Fix D-Weapons, touch up Gargantuan Creatures and Superheavy rules to bring them in line with current MC and Vehicle rules, fix stratagems (maybe give them a point cost?), Make a formation a bonus set of rules if you buy X particular models/units rather than a separate entry. Add a superheavy slot to the FOC like Fortifications. Every 2000 points add a FOC. Done.

 azreal13 wrote:

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:

That's a pretty extreme reaction as we don't know anything a out the rules? Surely the lack of new models in the release is almost good news(!) for existing players? You could be one codex purchase away from being the new Necrons.

It might be in your eyes. I mean, do you expect me to buy the new Dire Avengers when the old box had 5 more in it for the same price. Some things might be good like the Wraithguard (If they stay the same price), but pricing the troop choise like that... I'd actually see it scare new players away.

What, as an existing player you don't have any Dire Avengers already? It's a rebox, not a new sculpt. Ok, I'll take your point about new players, but why does that make the sky fall on you?

Been playing eldar since '95, No I don't have any DA, they've never been necessary, and still aren't.

I get the feeling they are about to. GW knows how to improve rules on expensive models.....

 dpal666 wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:

That's a pretty extreme reaction as we don't know anything a out the rules? Surely the lack of new models in the release is almost good news(!) for existing players? You could be one codex purchase away from being the new Necrons.

It might be in your eyes. I mean, do you expect me to buy the new Dire Avengers when the old box had 5 more in it for the same price. Some things might be good like the Wraithguard (If they stay the same price), but pricing the troop choise like that... I'd actually see it scare new players away.

What, as an existing player you don't have any Dire Avengers already? It's a rebox, not a new sculpt. Ok, I'll take your point about new players, but why does that make the sky fall on you?

Been playing eldar since '95, No I don't have any DA, they've never been necessary, and still aren't.

Ooh? You got a new codex? Spill!