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Tooling for the Leviathan Legs! Update #44
There has been a lot of re-engineering of these components from the resin model you have seen. The only thing left to add is the numbers on the sprues, they will cut these into the mold after they have done the test shots.

When assembled, this kit will stand on its own and hold a pose… You will be able to play with it quite a bit before using a dab of glue to lock it into place. I don’t know about you, but I am excited!

The 15mm kits will share the same part layout!

Exciting, isn't it

 Vitruvian XVII wrote:
I think maybe youve got the old one stuck in your cache or something?

This is what i see *SNIP*

Linking directly to the image doesn't help! But you were right about the cache. CTRL+F5 fixed things.


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 Slinky wrote:
The 15mm kits will share the same part layout!

Heh, guess that explains the relative pricing of the kits if the molds for the 15mm versions are – runners etc. aside obviously – just the 28mm ones cut at half-scale. Little dudes' gonna be so detailed.

We only need one nice big pledge to get us to $120k! Anyone who is wanting to pledge put hasn't made the plunge, do it now!


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Huh. That was fast. $120k!

120k blown!

Uppened my pledge to accomodate for the heavy troopers and to have everything shipped when ready!

Now, only the APC might come and <force> me to uppen the pledge further... *hint hint* *wink wink*

Wooooo! 20 fresh Termies to fill out my death wing!

Another good day for pledges, let's keep it going, the more in the better off mark will be for the next set of kits.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Only thing that bugs me is that I wish you could get the Valkir in 5 man groups for $11 like the assault and support guys. I just can't swing the cash for 20 of the guys, but would buy 5 or 10 in a heartbeat. I'm not even sure what I would do with them, but their main rifles just look awesome.

Have you considered doing just a 5 or 10 man increment of the valkir? I'd imagine you had to abandon it because of manufacturing or shipping concerns correct?

I'd probably take a 10 man Valkir increment, I think it's because they're a core infantry choice though. The support gunners and assault troopers are elites, while the Valkir are heavy troopers they're "basic" so you want to buy those particular squaddies en masse.

Unless it's a tooling issue, it would be good to see them offered in the smaller amounts, just as the regular (base) infantry are. While there will be an eventual DreamForge game, many of us are realistically buying them for use in other games or as painting projects so making them only available (in the KS) "by the book" isn't as useful to the project as it might otherwise be.

A question - probably answered in the preceding 45 pages, but will the 28mm and/or 15mm Mortis come with the extra gatling arm/power plant?

The 28mm Mortis will come with the extra Vulcan and Capacitors.

Mark, with all these stretch goals coming so thick and fast it puts a lot of pressure on backers to decide what they want now. Would you like me to create a pledge manager for you? It would allow an extra month and a half to convince friends to buy in or to come up with the funds for a larger order.

Sorry I didn't offer earlier. I assumed the pledge calculator was a...web-stuff-thingy, which I'm not especially au fait with. It was only upon looking at the page code on a whim that I discovered it was just a converted Excel sheet. That makes it completely trivial compared to some of the stuff I've done in the past. I can send you samples of similar work if you'd like proof of this.

Essentially, you would send out the Kickstarter survey as planned, it would just become a preliminary guide for producing enough stock for the November orders rather than the final say. The data from that gets used to automatically populate a second page on your spreadsheet, random passwords are generated and mail merge is used to email each backer their password and a link to the pledge manager page (which would now include validation for, for example, ensuring no more than four additional feral Shadokesh and handlers are included, and only if the pledge is at least $20). Once the backer chooses to finalise their order (or at the end of October if they haven't already) they are redirected to Paypal (or sent an email containing the relevant link) to make up any shortfall, either with their Paypal account or with their credit card via Paypal. There's even specific functionality in SpreadsheetConverter to make it completely foolproof. Easy.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Wooooo! 20 fresh Termies to fill out my death wing!

Interesting - I plan to use them (initially) as PA marines alongside my metal GK terminators. Not sure which will look better, we'll see next year

Yeah I was just going to use them as space marines too. They look like actual power armored figures, unlike the GW space marines, which look a little small compared to my guardsmen.

ski2060 wrote:
The 28mm Mortis will come with the extra Vulcan and Capacitors.

It's not really an "extra" vulcan in the case of the Mortis, it's just "A Vulcan"

 Slinky wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Wooooo! 20 fresh Termies to fill out my death wing!

Interesting - I plan to use them (initially) as PA marines alongside my metal GK terminators. Not sure which will look better, we'll see next year

My fluff excuse is that they're Dark Age of Technology era Tactical Dread armor.

I dunno, when I saw them it immediately screamed termie counts as to me.

Charax wrote:

ski2060 wrote:
The 28mm Mortis will come with the extra Vulcan and Capacitors.

It's not really an "extra" vulcan in the case of the Mortis, it's just "A Vulcan"

The Mortis (15mm/28mm) is shown with claw and scythe, so any other weapon is extra and AFAIK not mentioned. Therefore I included an extra weapon in my pledge.

 Kroothawk wrote:

Charax wrote:

ski2060 wrote:
The 28mm Mortis will come with the extra Vulcan and Capacitors.

It's not really an "extra" vulcan in the case of the Mortis, it's just "A Vulcan"

The Mortis (15mm/28mm) is shown with claw and scythe, so any other weapon is extra and AFAIK not mentioned. Therefore I included an extra weapon in my pledge.

"Capacitor coolers and 100k stretch goal left hand Vulkan will be included! The Mortis will gain all Leviathan stretch goals but the excalibur sword"

So does that also apply to the 15mm Mortis?

Afaik no.

The 15mm only come with capacitors (and the extra blade for crusader pledges).

Kind of confused. If I just wanted the heavy troopers, what is the min pledge level I would have to make? Could I just pledge the amount for them + shipping?

 Kroothawk wrote:
Okay, took the plunge and helped the project to reach 120k

Awesome!

Construct- You may want to post that offer on the Kickstarter page. I know someone else made the web-based calculator for him and that was a big help. He'll be more likely to see your comment that way

I think the main thing keeping him from confirming a pledge manager is working out the details with the manufacturer... i.e. when they would need finalized numbers by. So, get your pledges in now just in case (I would love a pledge manager too, though, but am not going to be counting on it)

We have blown past the 120K stretch, at 122K now! My personal opinion is that Mark is working on a render / etc and will reveal the APC as the next stretch goal tonight or early tomorrow... let's see . I think it is Very likely this blows past 140K, and 150K as well... and the APC will probably need to be at one of those levels because it sounds like a large kit that would require a lot of additional tooling. I cannot wait to find out... that thing's awesome!

I would like be shifting some of my pledge items- i.e, pledging for APCs instead of the support weapons for my troopers, then buying the support weapons when they're available at the end of the year. Wouldn't make my pledge go down, though- if anything, I'll be adding to it.

Today is looking like we could make another huge leap, possibly another 1st place by day total.

Mark, I for one am pro-skirt on the heavies, I'm limiting myself to the leviathans for this ks, but just love the look with the skirt. After all if this is going to be the only ks ever to not have boobs then we should at least have skirts.

Sining wrote:
Kind of confused. If I just wanted the heavy troopers, what is the min pledge level I would have to make? Could I just pledge the amount for them + shipping?

He doesn't have a specific pledge for them, but he has said it doesn't matter what level you pledge at, anyway. Just pick a level and enter the correct total for the heavy troopers you want, and you'll fill out what items you were pledging for in the survey at the end.

Make sure to use the online calculator to figure out shipping, under the international tab at this link:
http://www.dreamforge-games.com/kickstartshipping/DFCalc.htm

 Construct wrote:
Mark, with all these stretch goals coming so thick and fast it puts a lot of pressure on backers to decide what they want now. Would you like me to create a pledge manager for you? It would allow an extra month and a half to convince friends to buy in or to come up with the funds for a larger order.

Sorry I didn't offer earlier. I assumed the pledge calculator was a...web-stuff-thingy, which I'm not especially au fait with. It was only upon looking at the page code on a whim that I discovered it was just a converted Excel sheet. That makes it completely trivial compared to some of the stuff I've done in the past. I can send you samples of similar work if you'd like proof of this.

Essentially, you would send out the Kickstarter survey as planned, it would just become a preliminary guide for producing enough stock for the November orders rather than the final say. The data from that gets used to automatically populate a second page on your spreadsheet, random passwords are generated and mail merge is used to email each backer their password and a link to the pledge manager page (which would now include validation for, for example, ensuring no more than four additional feral Shadokesh and handlers are included, and only if the pledge is at least $20). Once the backer chooses to finalise their order (or at the end of October if they haven't already) they are redirected to Paypal (or sent an email containing the relevant link) to make up any shortfall, either with their Paypal account or with their credit card via Paypal. There's even specific functionality in SpreadsheetConverter to make it completely foolproof. Easy.

Is it possible to increase the time of the KS now that it is already going? (and almost done). Extra time, if possible, and a pledge manager would be a great boon to a number of us pledgers, but maybe a headache for Mark, and possibly delay the ship dates. But anything that makes more stuff available to more people, and helps Mark get a firmer footing for future releases sounds good to me!

I don't know what ks rules are but couldn't we finish this one and give mark a week or two to sleep (or get our stuff figured out), then create a new one where it would have the stage 2 and above items along with new stuff like the apc. Or have the apc be the big goal and have all the rest available, but just slightly more than this ks so that people don't feel cheated that they ordered and it's available again.

I think it's best just to finish it off in one big shabang, and get all the momentum from that like other KS have done

And I don't think there's any way to change it, regardless... although certainly a pledge manager is a possibility, but one he can't confirm up to this point (hopefully he'll know one way or the other soon).

I think it might be nice to have a break - I think a lot of people's gaming income is just tapped out. I know I want more infantry particularly, but just can't afford to buy it now. Another Kickstarter a the start of 2013 though... I can save my pennies for that!

Agreed... although I'd love a future one to be for Shadokesh since this one is so focused on Eisenkern.

@ Mark

Good job so far =)
Any idea how the shipping value will be handled ? Like Reaper and the amount declared on the package will be the amount related to your pledge option ?
(Regardless of any options, if you took the 100$ option, they will declare 100$ for the value of the package)
Or if I pledge 500$, will it be 500$ on the package ? Because it will probably influence if I want the items to come in 3 steps or all at once.

And I just remembered... I hope he does ship with USPS. UPS, Fedex and DHL just charge so much for duty fees it's not even funny.

I had an order from FW cost me more in shipping and duties than the actual item once.


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Seeing those sprues was very, very cool, even if they were just renders, because you know if this is the case, then pre-prod isn't far behind, and then plasticky leviathan goodness...


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Oh and it seems the original thread on Warseer was deleted, I think because Mark was on there, and it's against their policies. So if anyone wants to, they should go over there and jazz it up a bit.

He said he will be using USPS, Mathieu

Oh good, chalk me relieved, then. I can go pick it up at my local PO, rather than having to rent a car to get to the depots on the other side of the island.