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 spiralingcadaver wrote:

Yeah... was really excited, esp. after Dark Vengeance, but I was hoping for sleeker and probably plastic Raptors, not this sort of awkward mess of possessed or whatever. Then there are the big pieces, which are just awkward...

Will probably be getting some second hand old raptors and delving in to the bits market for those lightning claws...

I second this. The DV Chosen are just ace - top-notch, all-around cool. I think I'm just going to convert some Raptors too, either using the Chosen or the old bodies (and jet packs - way cooler than these new ones).

The Dark Apostle isn't bad, *IF* all those rolls of toilet paper can be cut away...

I guess this is more money I can send to DreamForge!

-C6

Bloody hell, if they're gonna start charging us $50 for each Codex (probably $60 for us Canadians...) they bloody well better be hardcover and in colour...

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
Bloody hell, if they're gonna start charging us $50 for each Codex (probably $60 for us Canadians...) they bloody well better be hardcover and in colour...

They are hardcover and full colour.
But think of the Australians who can now save money by buying the FW Hell Talon instead of the Helldrake

 dienekes96 wrote:
Actually, the last Codex for Chaos came out solidly in the middle or late of 4th. That was the Gav dex everyone rants about after Pete Haines 3.5th.

I'm drawing a blank.

Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness
Realms of Chaos: Lost & The Damned
Codex Chaos (2nd Ed – Andy Chambers)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Jervis Johnson)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Pete Haines)
Codex Chaos (6th Ed – Phil Kelly)

There certainly wasn’t a Chaos Codex between the Haines one and this new one.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 dienekes96 wrote:
Actually, the last Codex for Chaos came out solidly in the middle or late of 4th. That was the Gav dex everyone rants about after Pete Haines 3.5th.

I'm drawing a blank.

Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness
Realms of Chaos: Lost & The Damned
Codex Chaos (2nd Ed – Andy Chambers)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Jervis Johnson)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Pete Haines)
Codex Chaos (6th Ed – Phil Kelly)

There certainly wasn’t a Chaos Codex between the Haines one and this new one.

Wasn't there a 4th ed chaos codex? I recall it introducing Huron Blackheart.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 dienekes96 wrote:
Actually, the last Codex for Chaos came out solidly in the middle or late of 4th. That was the Gav dex everyone rants about after Pete Haines 3.5th.

I'm drawing a blank.

Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness
Realms of Chaos: Lost & The Damned
Codex Chaos (2nd Ed – Andy Chambers)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Jervis Johnson)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Pete Haines)
Codex Chaos (6th Ed – Phil Kelly)

There certainly wasn’t a Chaos Codex between the Haines one and this new one.

Wasn't there a 4th ed chaos codex? I recall it introducing Huron Blackheart.

have a read.

There's a joke in there somewhere...

Who would have thought the Forgeworld HH book at £70 would suddenly look reasonable when priced next to the new Chaos Marine Codex?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 dienekes96 wrote:
Actually, the last Codex for Chaos came out solidly in the middle or late of 4th. That was the Gav dex everyone rants about after Pete Haines 3.5th.

I'm drawing a blank.

Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness
Realms of Chaos: Lost & The Damned
Codex Chaos (2nd Ed – Andy Chambers)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Jervis Johnson)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Pete Haines)
Codex Chaos (6th Ed – Phil Kelly)

There certainly wasn’t a Chaos Codex between the Haines one and this new one.

Someone doesn't get the joke in 3... 2...

Edit: ninja'd by someone not getting the joke.

Too late Dave. Someone already didn't get it...

 Alpharius wrote:
There's a joke in there somewhere...

Who would have thought the Forgeworld HH book at £70 would suddenly look reasonable when priced next to the new Chaos Marine Codex?

Urgh

Also when people actually decide to get a forgeworld model to use as the dragon, that says something.

You know, its funny. I suspected that the omission of the 4th ed dex was intentional, but I wasn't sure, so I blundered in anyway.
I think I might be part canary...or whatever species of animal they use to clear minefields/anything else dangerous.

Btw, I read the article, and it was pretty damn good. The "loyalists gone bad" part made me chuckle, and I now know where the oversimplification of khorne's nature has originated.

 Alpharius wrote:
There's a joke in there somewhere...

Who would have thought the Forgeworld HH book at £70 would suddenly look reasonable when priced next to the new Chaos Marine Codex?

Heck. You're right Alphy.

Just over twice the price for over twice as many pages, leather-bound and greater... Well... Everything.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

I'm drawing a blank.

Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness
Realms of Chaos: Lost & The Damned
Codex Chaos (2nd Ed – Andy Chambers)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Jervis Johnson)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Pete Haines)
Codex Chaos (6th Ed – Phil Kelly)

There certainly wasn’t a Chaos Codex between the Haines one and this new one.

Except the Codex: Chaos Space Marines written by Gav Thorpe and Alessio Cavatore.
The one most CSM players loathe.
This one

 Cpt Stubbs wrote:
I really hope we can use the warp talon's vorpal claws to kill the jabberwocky....that thing has been bugging Alice for years.

If that's a sarcastic way of saying, GW's mixing fantasy with 40k. I agree
Maybe there trying to save money, slowly merge the two systems.
One book to rule them all. One team to write, and sell for both systems.

 poipo32 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

I'm drawing a blank.

Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness
Realms of Chaos: Lost & The Damned
Codex Chaos (2nd Ed – Andy Chambers)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Jervis Johnson)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Pete Haines)
Codex Chaos (6th Ed – Phil Kelly)

There certainly wasn’t a Chaos Codex between the Haines one and this new one.

Except the Codex: Chaos Space Marines written by Gav Thorpe and Alessio Cavatore.
The one most CSM players loathe.
This one

Oh hai, you're the second one not to get the joke.
Congrats

 poipo32 wrote:
Except the Codex: Chaos Space Marines written by Gav Thorpe and Alessio Cavatore.
The one most CSM players loathe.
This one

See... I know you're speaking English... you're just not making any sense. There was no Codex: Chaos between 3.5 and now.

Ahhh! I get the joke (after a long time)

Maybe I'm being too subtle. That seems impossible, given it's me we're talking about.

And anyway, when I want to be subtle, you'll know about it. That was irony BTW.

Are we all caught up? Good.

 Just Dave wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 dienekes96 wrote:
Actually, the last Codex for Chaos came out solidly in the middle or late of 4th. That was the Gav dex everyone rants about after Pete Haines 3.5th.

I'm drawing a blank.

Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness
Realms of Chaos: Lost & The Damned
Codex Chaos (2nd Ed – Andy Chambers)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Jervis Johnson)
Codex Chaos (3rd Ed – Pete Haines)
Codex Chaos (6th Ed – Phil Kelly)

There certainly wasn’t a Chaos Codex between the Haines one and this new one.

Someone doesn't get the joke in 3... 2...

Edit: ninja'd by someone not getting the joke.

What the feth is the joke? Chaos hasn't had a codex since the October 2002 Pete Haines version, it's not funny, it's sad. We're nearing the decade mark.

*hugs Vlad*

 loki old fart wrote:

 Cpt Stubbs wrote:
I really hope we can use the warp talon's vorpal claws to kill the jabberwocky....that thing has been bugging Alice for years.

If that's a sarcastic way of saying, GW's mixing fantasy with 40k. I agree
Maybe there trying to save money, slowly merge the two systems.
One book to rule them all. One team to write, and sell for both systems.

1 man to write them, you mean. You know who it is....

*Immediately digs a fox hole and hides in it, awaiting the possible backlash*

This is the second time I have had to summon fat x-wing guy in the last few hours in this thread... 3rd time and it will be Wedge and he will mess people up. Don't make me get Wedge.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:
So.. the brass scorpion doesn't look like an animal at all, either?

Come on... this has been the chaos style for some time, it's actually quite retro if you go back and look at all the old Epic Chaos stuff.

I like how they're giving Chaos some unique styling and sculpts rather than "grab X marine thing and add spikes" that has been the default for too long.

No. It doesn't. And it isn't.

The Brass Scorpion is mechanical, with big plates of armour and hinges and metal spikes and gun barrels and claws. It's underside is a mess of cabling and the odd corpse sticking out. It's a mechanical construction inhabited by a Daemon. Ditto for the Blight Drone. The Blood Slaughterer. The Decimator. The Defiler. And so on. The Epic Daemon Engines? They were all giant tanks (in the case of Khorne), wooden contraptions with flesh stretched across them (Nurgle), flying metallic birds (Tzeentch) or giant robot walker thingies (Slaanesh). Even the Soul Grinder makes sense, because it's basically an 'unbound Defiler', with obvious mechanical origins and a daemon melded from the waist down.

The Maulerfiend is a big xeno-creature wearing weird armour. It is nothing like the rest. Even the Dragon fits more with Chaos than the Maulerfiend.

The Brass Scorpion is a mechanical construct that looks like a scorpion. The Maulerfiend is a mechanical construct that looks like a komodo dragon (or the dog creatures from Ghostbusters). Where is the difference? I see possibly a biological skull on the Maulerfiend, with some tattered skin over the robot limbs, but that's no different than what you mentioned above.

Edit: Of course, if I had read ahead a few more pages, I would have seen more than one person make this comparison ...

Interesting to see all the comments on the models. There seems to be people at the far ends of the spectrum: Person A hates the Helldrake, loves the Warp Talons. Person B loves the Helldrake, hates the Warp Talons. Guess that means they are all going to be good sellers?

In general the new figs seems cool to me, but the Obliterators are quite disappointing. I was hoping they were going to tweak the rules to make them great (either CC or Ranged) and make a new plastic kit that allowed you to make either kit. Instead, Finecast models that are less than good looking. Oh well.

As an aside, what does the word feth mean? I see it alot on here.

I heard a rumor that in Apocalypse you can use five Forgefiends to form the Megazord. MEGAZORD ACTIVATED!

These prices are shooting down my hope of remaking a childhood chaos force!

Ok so for the Oblits...

I will do my "Heavy Techmarine" but will replace the shooty load out with CC weapons.




And will the new Helldrake is nice, just need a "true" chaos touch, i will also use the conversion i did out of boredom and for fun a few months ago...



Just need to modify it to put it on a flying stand.

Personnaly i allready owns over 8k points of CSM, so all i need is a new Codex, with nice rules, while i like the new models and those are in the scoop of what i can work with to make some conversions, i don't neccesarly need to buy them off the bat to play my army.

did somone say £30 for the codex

Poor model design aside, I can't figure out how they justify giving those Dinosaurs an armor value. I mean if they are AV12 then why would the dread knight be a MC?

So drop pods or no?

Because the Chosen look superb it'd be a shame if we couldn't get them into the fray.

If they do have Drop Pods they will most likely be Dreadclaws, but I doubt that they will be included. I really hope that CSM gets access to some form of Drop Pod/Dreadclaw though.