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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Dr. Delorean wrote:
Australians already pay $62 for the hardbacks, and yes, it is awful.

Wait... that’s more than your average FFG 40K RPG source book. And those books are full-colour and in hardback. And have more pages if I’m not mistake.

What the feth???

Yeah, I'm Canadian, so my prices aren't quite so high as yours, but now that codex starting to compete with, and even outprice some of my university texts, we're starting to get into the realm of ridiculous. GW pricing has always been painful, but this is just insane.

Was hoping to learn today about the raptor, warp talons and bikes points costs and rules, upgrades.
Do we have any news about that?

Amusing how the special rules rotate from codex to codex.

in 3rd ed, Khorne zerker champs had feel no pain, Plague marines did not have it all (they had true grit).
in 4th ed, plague marines got feel no pain
in 6th ed, slaanesh gets feel no pain.

at that rate the next chaos codex will give it to thousand sons (pretty sure dust has no pain receptors )

Rakear wrote:
Amusing how the special rules rotate from codex to codex.

in 3rd ed, Khorne zerker champs had feel no pain, Plague marines did not have it all (they had true grit).
in 4th ed, plague marines got feel no pain
in 6th ed, slaanesh gets feel no pain.

at that rate the next chaos codex will give it to thousand sons (pretty sure dust has no pain receptors )

Funny thing that most of what you mentioned is right or could be...

Still do we know anything for raptors, warp talons and bikers?

 avedominusnox wrote:

Still do we know anything for raptors, warp talons and bikers?

No. If we did, it would be here. Whilst pre-orders go up tonight, the Codex isn't out for 2 weeks, so don't hold your breath on rules leaks today, so no real need to ask every other post

Anyone else find it strange that, unlike all of the more recent releases, this one has a two-week pre-life? Why this one specifically? There's dirty work afoot!

I think it's because WD comes out a week early, for GD UK.

UltraPrime wrote:
No. If we did, it would be here. Whilst pre-orders go up tonight, the Codex isn't out for 2 weeks, so don't hold your breath on rules leaks today, so no real need to ask every other post

No offends mate, it's that my NL would love a bit of competitiveness so my main concerns are the units I ve mentioned.
Oh good god, please make they less worthless than they were in prev dex.

 avedominusnox wrote:

UltraPrime wrote:
No. If we did, it would be here. Whilst pre-orders go up tonight, the Codex isn't out for 2 weeks, so don't hold your breath on rules leaks today, so no real need to ask every other post

No offends mate, it's that my NL would love a bit of competitiveness so my main concerns are the units I ve mentioned.
Oh good god, please make they less worthless than they were in prev dex.

None taken, and none meant. I'd love to hear rumours too, but I just know in my bones it will be a while before they start hitting, with the longer-than-usual pre-order phase.

Only 13 and 1/2 hours left till we see the goodness

sorry guys just looked closely at the prices thats me out

dont get me wrong i can afford the stuff but i refuse to pay those prices for kits that look in my opinion rubbish and models that were out when i was 6 and first started playing
i understand prices have gone up on all things over the years like fags, beer, parade gloss shoe polish but GW im sorry to say have become greedy and i feel sorry for new people getting into the hobbie
like i said my opinion and i respect everybody elses opinion but i cant reason paying those prices

sad days especialy when i have the chaos codex cover tattoed on my arm lol its was a good idear at the time

I know the pain bro, so does everyone else

The tattoo is a reminder of what goodness once was and what will hopefully return.

its a shame i know but i just cant pay it anymore i hope in future years GW prove me wrong but i cant see it happening im afraid
now if you excuse me im gonna go look at the warmahordes forum lol

Is it just me or does it look like those are new terminator models behind the Fiend in that Alpha Legion picture?


I am getting more excited the more i read!!

For those posting...There is NO Legion book coming out. it look sliek this codex will give you access to all the units and rules you need to make a fluffy legion if you want to - but nothing specific.


As a IW fan the Warpsmith is looking pretty good:

mechandrites = +2A, melta and flamer
Repairs hullpoint/weapons/immobilised on a 5+
Curse enemy vehicle within 18" (make all their guns Gets Hot for a turn)
Degrade enemy a price of enemy terrain by reducign their cover save by 1

Looks like the model has an axe (power axe maybe?) and a bolt pistol.

I'm hoping you can upgrade their armour to terminatro armoru (as i have modle for that) and their weapons (combi woudl be nice)


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Can soemone confirm/deny a coupe of things for me?


how do the marks/icons work? I was looking at the pics so far and it occured to me that a Slaanesh Deamon prince is EVIL!! Check this out:

If you had a Slaanesh Demon Prince with the Icon of Excess AND the Mark of Slaanesh (not sure if thats possible but in theory...) = Feel no Pain, +1I, Fleet, Rending, Run an additional 3"...plus the base stat line of (according to rumours posted a few pages ago)

WS9, BS5, S6, T5, W4, A5, I8, Ld9

most likely with a 2+/5++ save as well.


EEP!





Also - the Warlord Traits....do you HAVE to take the codex ones? Or can you choose to take the rulebook ones instead?

I'm hoping you can upgrade their armour to terminatro armoru (as i have modle for that) and their weapons (combi woudl be nice)

There's something called "Fleshmetal" which gives them a 2+ save, I'm hoping that it's our version of Artificer armour.

Hmm, maybe that would justify me fielding a terminator model then - but use the same stats.

will ahve to wait and see. Luckily i already have 3 Warsmith models. One terminator with Servo-harness and L-Claws, one metal warsmith model with an axe and a conversion beamer, and one direct order techmarine painted up in IW colours. Hopefully i'm covered.

 Praxiss wrote:
Is it just me or does it look like those are new terminator models behind the Fiend in that Alpha Legion picture?

Not Terminators, just DV Chosen.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Byte wrote:
We should rage quit.

Notice how he didn’t suggest that? Also notice how attempting to equate “disliking a price” with “irrational outburst/rage quit” could be seen as somewhat inflammatory.

The guy who has been leading the Dance of the Dinobots pretty much since the moment we got pics is lecturing other people about being inflammatory?


Having seen that artwork.....how can the Dragon look so fantastic in that, yet inspire so little reaction when in model form? Still, at least it gives me hope that a bit of modelling magic will be able to salvage it.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Byte wrote:
We should rage quit.

Notice how he didn’t suggest that? Also notice how attempting to equate “disliking a price” with “irrational outburst/rage quit” could be seen as somewhat inflammatory.

The guy who has been leading the Dance of the Dinobots pretty much since the moment we got pics is lecturing other people about being inflammatory?


Having seen that artwork.....how can the Dragon look so fantastic in that, yet inspire so little reaction when in model form? Still, at least it gives me hope that a bit of modelling magic will be able to salvage it.

I think Byte may have been making a joke, using hyperbole and sarcasm to mimic the overwhelmingly negative reaction of some in this thread.

Also, that Dragon looks amazing with a paint job that isn't so dark it hides every detail.

I'm not overly keen on the Dragon TBH - mostly due to issues other than the model though.

i thik the model looks...ok. But i think it is one of those models where the paint job really brings it to life, and i'm not sure i coudl do it justcie. Plus the price means i will nto be abel to aford one.

I've already cleared with my local gaming group that i can use my old FW Hellbalde in 40k games instead.

 Extreaminatus wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Byte wrote:
We should rage quit.

Notice how he didn’t suggest that? Also notice how attempting to equate “disliking a price” with “irrational outburst/rage quit” could be seen as somewhat inflammatory.

The guy who has been leading the Dance of the Dinobots pretty much since the moment we got pics is lecturing other people about being inflammatory?


Having seen that artwork.....how can the Dragon look so fantastic in that, yet inspire so little reaction when in model form? Still, at least it gives me hope that a bit of modelling magic will be able to salvage it.

I think Byte may have been making a joke, using hyperbole and sarcasm to mimic the overwhelmingly negative reaction of some in this thread.

Also, that Dragon looks amazing with a paint job that isn't so dark it hides every detail.

You are correct, thank you. With the amount of tongue-in-cheek comments H.B.M.C makes, his posts seems out of place. O well. Next time I'll, " ^^insert Sarcasm^^ ".

Last night I had the most terriffyingly scary night terror that there would no Legion specific rules in the new Chaos Space Marine Codex. That the Night Lords and Alpha Legion would be totally left out like they were never even apart of the 40K universe. That GW made a only pretty good C:CSM from what people can tell by leaked information. Such a scary dream. Then, when I realized that is the actual reality associated with my morning, I wiped the sweat and tears from pouty red face and walked over to my laptop computer. I decided to write one last Negative Nancy post about the loss of opportunity by GW to at do something a little right and add a couple rules geared towards NL and AL. Then I brushed my shoulders off and knew it was time to start brainstorming hard on how to build my back ground specific NL army that would drop mad bows on all sorts of GK players who thought they still shouldnt be skee'rd of the C:CSM. Time to drop mad bows yo.



I really did have that nightmare.

 Mr. Balloon Hands wrote:
Last night I had the most terriffyingly scary night terror that there would no Legion specific rules in the new Chaos Space Marine Codex. That the Night Lords and Alpha Legion would be totally left out like they were never even apart of the 40K universe. That GW made a only pretty good C:CSM from what people can tell by leaked information. Such a scary dream. Then, when I realized that is the actual reality associated with my morning, I wiped the sweat and tears from pouty red face and walked over to my laptop computer. I decided to write one last Negative Nancy post about the loss of opportunity by GW to at do something a little right and add a couple rules geared towards NL and AL. Then I brushed my shoulders off and knew it was time to start brainstorming hard on how to build my back ground specific NL army that would drop mad bows on all sorts of GK players who thought they still shouldnt be skee'rd of the C:CSM. Time to drop mad bows yo.



I really did have that nightmare.

I feel you brother, same as you.
Time to kick some..

Heres a question...

I bought the Pysker Battle Card app for my Ipod



Do we think it'll be updated with the new Chaos Powers?

I currently have an IW army. And sadly have been disappointed with it the last few years precisely because it had the ability to flop over to either the space wolf or space marne codex with no fuss. I for one am glad to see that there is going to be something vastly different in the new dex. Something to make them NOT SPIKEY MARINES!!!

When it comes to getting something new for the non cult legions. Iron Warriors are getting loads already with just getting artillery. Give the Night Lords anything that allows them to take the jump pack units as troops and you clear the way for them to be more jump pack/bike oriented than they've ever been before. Alpha Legion... I guess they can play IG operatives who fill the Cultist Troop Choices up while they field AL's of every Elite, FA, HS choice out there. Cheap troop choices let you put more points into everything else. Seems Alpha Legion to me, and those Chosen look great alongside all those Cultists you got in the DV box. Word Bearers get to take daemons as allies and they get Chaplains, what more could they ask for?

As far as the look of the models, hearing Chaos players complain about how models look straight out of the box is just shameful. Chaos is MEANT TO BE CONVERTED!!! Think the fiends look a bit like dino whatevers? Fine, let your Warpsmith CUT THE FLESH OUT. Rivets make everything better! For pete's sake, start brainstorming about what can be done with the models, how to make them truly chaotic. Stop whining about the price, at least this time GW gave us units you could easily convert toys to make a decent stand in.

 Bloodhorror wrote:
Heres a question...

I bought the Pysker Battle Card app for my Ipod



Do we think it'll be updated with the new Chaos Powers?

Don't want to dissapointed you but I think it won't..
This company is greedy.

 Bloodhorror wrote:
Heres a question...

I bought the Pysker Battle Card app for my Ipod



Do we think it'll be updated with the new Chaos Powers?

If by updated you mean you'll have to pay more money, then Yes!

MetalOxide wrote:

 Jayden63 wrote:

 CrashCanuck wrote:
So long as they allow the actual Plague Marines to retain their FnP I don't really have a problem with slaanesh granting it with the icon, it does make sense for them.

Any word about possible new special characters? I'm really hoping with the focus turning to the DA that Cypher will make a re-appearance

Its just another codex shift. The old dex was two lash princes, 9 obliterators, and as many plague marines as you can fill up for troops. So naturally, Lash is gone, plague marines are no longer the bees knees and Oblits are being split into two different units.

It sucks for themed armies though such as my Nurgle army because now the icon grants fear which is apparently pointless in this edition and the Plague Marines are now 24 pts because they have poisoned which is useless; since when are you going to assault with plague marines in the first place? Also fnp is 5+ instead of 4+ :(

FNP is way better now. Sure its 5+ but nothing negates it at toughness 5. It makes units way more survivable overall. The point extra for gaining poisoned is not bad either, and fits the fluff as well.

anyone point me to a better/bigger picture of the dark apostle? I looked through the thread and only found a really tiny one.

 dracpanzer wrote:

As far as the look of the models, hearing Chaos players complain about how models look straight out of the box is just shameful. Chaos is MEANT TO BE CONVERTED!!! Think the fiends look a bit like dino whatevers?

This is exactly how I feel about Chaos and Orks (nids to a lesser extent)... you basically have cart blanche to do whatever you want to the model to fit whatever theme you want. I have DV and love all the models in it. Even though the hell brute looks cool all I could think about was how cool it would look with scales and if the tentacles were snakes bursting from it. I want to do another hellbrute with an eyeball in the middle where the pilot is... just really simple conversions that you can do with greenstuff and end up with a totally awesome and unique looking model.