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So reading through an early release of the new chaos codex, many people have noticed that Typhus can turn cultists into zombies. The standard max size of a cultist unit is 35 dudes. Its also very clearly states that these "zombies" can't purchase any options.

Adding troops is an option so RAW says that your zombie units can't be any larger than 10 man squads.

While I don't believe that we can get any specific answers here that are definitive until the FAQ is released, do you guys feel that this is simple typo? certainly seems to defeat the purpose to me.

Clearly a typo.

I don't think its a typo. There is honestly no discussion possible at the moment with this rule. All we know is that as of right now the rules state that Zombies can only be in squads of 10. The rule is actually really clear and there is no ambiguity. Its possible it was a typo, but it seems too clear and the rest of the book is clear and concise. Very straight to the point.

I really want a walking dead army. 210 zombies on the table sounds very "fun" to play against. LOL

Clearly an oversight on the Kelly's part. There's no way that that's the way he intended it.

I doubt that, 6th ed has tried to remove tarpits as much as it could. I assume zombies are easy to wound tough to wipe off the table stuff rather than cultists that are comparably easy to deal with. If so why would 6th ed's 1st codex piss on the work that they did with the rulebook.

Oversight. Pure and simple.

 alienvalentine wrote:
Clearly an oversight on the Kelly's part. There's no way that that's the way he intended it.

And an oversight on everyone who playtested it ??

Nick Bayton, John Bracken, Stefano Carlini, Paul Hickey, Matt Hilton, Andy Keddie, Trevor Larkin, Benjamin Mason, Martin Morrin, Gary Shaw??

I don't think it's a typo or an oversight. Like Red Comet said, it's pretty clear, straightforward, unambiguous language. And any speculation on whether it was intended is just that... speculation.

Wrote up a probably longer than it needed to be article on this very issue yesterday -

http://www.theruleslawyers.com/2012/10/6th-edition-rulings-plague-zombies-unit-size-limits/

I agree that's its just an oversight.

I think it will be FAQ'ed simply based on the fact that if they don't, they won't sell as many models.

I love how everyone is saying its an oversight simply because they want to have a horde of zombies in 40k. So far I haven't seen any arguments that actually hold any water.

This is a RAI thread, it is always going to be useless and pointless.

So far, I've not seen any actual published rules that even allow CSM to take a horde of Zombies.

Please note, I'm not asking for rules to be quoted here.

Happyjew wrote:
So far, I've not seen any actual published rules that even allow CSM to take a horde of Zombies.

Please note, I'm not asking for rules to be quoted here.

I have them in my hand.

I didn't realize the codex was already out. I thought it gets released Saturday or something.

I didn't say how I got it.

So for all you know, you could have gotten your hands on a very, very well made Fandex...

I really dont see the issue. If you want a horde, you go with the 35 cultists and their guns. If you want durability you go with the 10, FNP, Fearless zombies..

Some people want orks in their chaos army without having to go with allies :p

Happyjew wrote:
So for all you know, you could have gotten your hands on a very, very well made Fandex...

An extremely, very, very well made Fandex. Probably made by a Fan who actually works for GW in the game design department.

iturgies of blood
2012/10/05 00:18:25 Subject: Typhus and zombie cultists
Diakon wrote:
Oh my word writing that article on Rules Lawyers was a waste of time. As is the website to be fair. lol


I do enjoy respectful constructive criticism.

That was a bit unfair actually GiantKiller. Apologies. Was half asleep when I made that comment and now feeling a little ashamed. Guess yr site just isn't for me but I shouldn't've been so harsh.

Honestly, I would guess that Kelly just overlooked the fact that adding squad members were labeled as an "option" I think it will be FAQ'ed quickly.

The rules are actually quite clear. You can have a zombie unit of ten to 35 models, since the rules say _any_ cultist unit can be nominated as plague zombies (there is no limit on the unit size).

 Lord Magnus wrote:
Honestly, I would guess that Kelly just overlooked the fact that adding squad members were labeled as an "option" I think it will be FAQ'ed quickly.

Gentlemen, we all know that nothing is going to be FAQ'ed quickly. Remember that fearless is awesome now, so that's a pretty good reason why they might want to limit the unit sizes

The RAI on this is pretty obvious, as is the RAW. I would allow it, and expect an faq clearing it up by saying "except adding more zombies", but nobody should expect a TO to have RAI trump a very clear RAW.

 schadenfreude wrote:
The RAI on this is pretty obvious, as is the RAW. I would allow it, and expect an faq clearing it up by saying "except adding more zombies", but nobody should expect a TO to have RAI trump a very clear RAW.

Prove RAI is obvious. It seems clear to me that you can have a large blob of crappy infantry or a small blob of good infantry. Its game balance, so your "RAI is obvious" is a silly statement.

Seriously?
Seriously?!!

I can't believe that anyone wound think that this is intended and not just an oversight..... and then to scold people for thinking taking 35 man zombie packs is "unintended".

How fething petty can you get?

Plague Zombies is not a Free FNP and Fearless just because you take Typhus.
Plague Zombies can't shoot there guns and can't run, it's clearly a trade off that for no reason should limit numbers to 10.

The Idea that Zombies only come in squads of 10 is F'ing ludicrous.

Chaos Cultist -
"Hey Typhus, how come the Zombies get to be in organized squads and we don't?"

Typhus -
"Idk lol"

Abaddon: Typhus! Bring on the zombie hoard!

Typhus: Erm.. I think some of the zombies have the flu. How about a zombie tea party instead?

Clearly a brain fart moment by Kelly that will be FAQ'd and I would be willing to bet my Gran on that! ... She's been dead 20 years so you do get one extra zombie if you win.

Well, having 35 of them makes a massive difference. as far as shooting them. I am going to use a scenario here with marines against "10" zombies

rapid firing with 1 plasma gun, on average, they will inflict 9 wounds and the zombies would make 4 FNP rolls. 5 zombies dead. 0% chance of falling back.

Lets take the exact same result with a 35 man squad of regular cultists. The exact same marine squad rapid fires into them, and does 9 wounds. 9 dead. The squad now has a 27.78% chance to fall back.

so by that logic, 10 zombies have a much better chance to guard an objective than 35 cultists.